Voting for Reform.the north/south

[Jollyjupiter]

As a proud Northerner i can say 80 per cent of my peer group will vote for Reform in May. Do you think it will be a North v South split?

These things are the result of several contributory factors, not least ideological "austerity" and Brexit. I'm not a fan of the current government but I don't think they can be blamed for everything.

Do you? How strange, you haven’t demonstrated anything at all.

They probably wouldn't be able to join the Council of Europe though.

Personally, I will be voting tactically. Anything to keep Labour or the Greens out and reverse the destruction of our country.

It was done for me. 🤷‍♀️

Ultimately for me it comes down to funding. Reform take huge donations from wealthy individuals and big corporations, just like the Tories and Labour, so ultimately that's who they serve the interests of. That's why we've seen certain individuals and corporations make huge profits while for normal people, the cost of living increases and the quality of life decreases. It's the reason why Labour getting into power was never going to result in substantial change. I don't agree with all Green party policies but they're the only party who do not take huge corporate donations, they are purely member funded, so they aren't beholden to wealthy funders like the other parties. Reform talk about making big change but ultimately how can we expect to see that when they're funded the same way as the people who have already been in power? Because of the funding structure the Greens are the only ones representing a genuine change to the status quo

No it wasn’t. Try again.

I think it had more to do with the responsible use of public funds than the ambition of local councillors, to be fair.

Allowing voting is responsible use of public funds. Thankfully that part of the democratic process is back in place.

I'm in Grimsby and I've seen a lot of Reform boards go up in people's front gardens over the last few weeks
I have family and friends that will vote Reform and I understand why they will, even though it's not something I would do myself
I'm a floating voter personally. Have voted Lib Dem, Labour and Greens in the past. I actually think that currently the Greens are the most dangerous party in the country and anybody that votes that way is bat shit
Seems obvious to me that we'll be getting another coalition government when the time comes around
For the locals, I'll be voting independent this time
But let's be real, they're all full of shit. Two really good independent candidates got voted in by our ward and the ward adjacent to us. Then they tried to merge the 2 wards so they could oust one or both! Everybody could see exactly what they were doing
My faith in any of the parties is at absolute rock bottom

Lighthearted:
I am still blaming the north for voting for Brexit!!
Most people seem to blame oldies, I like me, but I do not know a single person my age and above who voted for Brexit.

I’ve just been on the Reform website reading their policies. It’s very depressing, fueled by such toxic rhetoric.
As Heseltine has pointed out it utilizes race-baiting, anti-immigrant rhetoric and populist tactics which bear a resemblance to the Fascist movement of the 1930’s.
Other policy points about reducing red tape (see their poisonous ‘fires do happen’ comments about Grenfell) and getting rid of net-zero (apparently ‘bad ideological policy’ !) are just grim.
Please don’t vote for them!

"a mainstream school being forced to take children whose needs they cannot meet so all TA'sare diverted to a seperate class which has been set up for these children who cannot cope in mainstream classes."

You will be aware that the reason children have been forced into mainstream who need specialist is related to the previous government who prevented local authorities from building or expanding any schools? Forcing many LAs to have their specialist schools move into academy trusts if they wanted to expand. This government has just reversed that.

The huge rise in children arriving in school not ready to learn is complex and not Labour's fault, it's partly to do with phone and screen use by parents and very small children. (Labour have provided explicit guidance on this very recently). It's compounded by the Gove curriculum which forces very young children into formal learning when really, especially given the levels of functioning many are arriving in school with, when really play and socialisation should be the priority. Labour is restoring sure start which the Tories dismantled (now called Best Start).

The wait time for ehcps is precisely why the SEND white paper is moving funding to schools so they don't need to apply for and wait for an EHCP.

My perception as a Northerner is that Reform has more of a hold in the South, like Brexit.

Nor do I but the breakdown of the leave vote was older and less educated. I put my personally not knowing a single leave voter down to the fact that my social circle is almost exclusively graduates.

I doubt if anyone's going to be able to tell you what Reform would be able to do differently.

Yes it depends so much on your social circle. There was an argument upthread about whether people were saying uneducated = ill informed etc. But there is plenty of data on how people vote. There is data that shows generally the more educated you are, the more left wing, the more pro-EU.

Well only the tories and reform seem to be out knocking here.

Labour are far too busy posting pictures of fly tipping telling us they have reported them and getting into slagging matches on Facebook with people who have a different view to them or dare to post annon and then announce their names as they are admin of the group.

I believe it will be Tory or Reform come the vote which one I duno I think it will be very close though.

What on earth is "the north"?? My large northern city certainly didn't vote for Brexit, and not did most of the others. Essex, on the other hand...

I know a lot of people who voted Brexit and it was in a sense of something needs to change, this is something, so let's do this. A lot of the people who vote reform will do so for that reason rather than any strong principles.
Plus many in our town are very disappointed in our labour MP.

The majority of the young people will vote green and they will turn out and vote.

I don’t know a single person voting for Reform. I don’t think that’s because I live in the south; it’s because nearly everyone I know has a high level of education and is able to see Farage for what he is.

This is the sad thing: as with Brexit, the majority of people voting for Reform are voting against themselves. I’m not looking forward to Farage becoming PM, but I don’t think I’ll be as personally affected as his disenfranchised voters. It’s tragic. The UK is a mess.

exactly....Farage is a human hater at large. I doubt he will have what to give to white working British class other than what the UK already has given them, houses and benefits

Kemi is lovely. Go for her

Social circle?

As I said, every family member of mine is voting reform, every colleague at work and every customer at work and parents up the school who mention it. Im not talking about a carefully selected group of friends.
Of course there may be people planning to vote for other parties without telling me but I’m not a far right skinhead type of person so they have no reason to fear being honest with me if they’re voting the greens.

😂
(Hoping that's sarcasm, you can never tell lately 😁)