Voting for Reform.the north/south

[Jollyjupiter]

As a proud Northerner i can say 80 per cent of my peer group will vote for Reform in May. Do you think it will be a North v South split?

Are you having a laugh?? Businesses going under at record rates, record youth unemployment, women scared to walk the streets at night……

It was the pp who brought up lower education = ill-informed.

Want to expand on why you're asking me that?

I don’t think you need a degree to be well informed at all. Doesn’t give you any higher moral ground not to have one though.

How did the 10million legal immigrants who have arrived this century get here then if we dont have ‘safe routes’?
How did (high profile) people like Martina Navratilova and Nureyev claim asylum back in the 70s? They flew into a country with their passport and said they wanted to claim political asylum. I think (from memory) Nureyev did this at Orly Airport.

I'm not scared to walk the streets at night.
I regularly have NHS appointments, and I have actually noticed the past year that when I ring up, it's a lot easier to get through and less of a queue, and appointments have had a fewer wait time.
Helping parents (especially mums who it usually affects) get back into work more easily by introducing morning childcare in the form of breakfast clubs so they can get to work on time.
We can all focus on the negativity or positivity I suppose...

I think with brexit people were patronising about the problems people were having and dismissing them as not actual issues at all. But now people are trying much harder to say yes this is a problem for some groups but those solutions don't work but people still feel dismissed and dont see it as debate or working to a solution both can agree on.

Here @ForWittyTealOP. I’m asking if you agreed with that contribution in an earlier post.

I agree - but no political party will touch that as it’s pensioners who vote.

If reform are the devil, the greens are going to have open borders and self ID, Labour are useless, as are the Tory’s then who on earth do we vote for??

Ok. Can you explain the safe routes to me? Current ones btw, not those regarding defections half a century ago from countries that no longer exist. Actual safe and legal routes for asylum seekers.

Is this a serious question?

There are safe routes for those with money and a passport. Many people fleeing war and dangerous countries have neither.

Daughters are you having a laugh anti abortion calling women gutter sluts, hags and thick tarts changing the equality act which protects maternity pay and that women should focus on mothering instead of careers, ignoring domestic violence.

And I'm asking you why you're asking me that specific question.

This is fun! We could do it all day!

I’m glad you’re not scared to walk the streets at night. Lucky you. Many are though.

I don’t see that being said but insults such as ill-informed and not nice or whatever else are clearly not working for Labour.

Open borders is not a Green policy

Slightly derailing here but I don't understand people being proud of where they were born or brought up. It's a matter completely out of their control so why would they be proud of it?

I have done things in my life I'm proud of. I went to uni aged 50 and earned an MSc, I make an excellent Yorkshire pudding, I've raised 2 wonderful women and I've been reasonably happily married to the same man for 40 years. All these things took hard work, effort, patience and practice and I'm proud of myself for them.

Am I proud that I was born and raised in London? No. I'm happy I live here but I can't take pride in it because I didn't choose it or achieve it. It's just an outcome of decisions adults made before I was even conceived

! also wouldn't be proud of mixing with reform supporters.

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Why are you scared to walk the streets at night? I mean, I am, but I always have been. I am not more scared now than I previously was. Women have always feared for their safety alone at night, with good reason, though fortunately violent crime rates are lower nowadays iirc

Who’s working for Labour here?
I posted a genuine quote from a Reform spokesman earlier and not a single response - just a reversion to this silly argument of ‘who are you calling not nice’ etc etc.

Reform obviously voters don’t bring up those words so take it up with those who do.

What is their policy? Do they want to use safe routes instead?

The quote doesn't say about posters "working for Labour" though 😕
It says people who are throwing insults and vote Labour, it clearly isn't working for them.

Allowing people to die when they want to die, not keep them alive for the sake of it.

Quite.

OP quit shilling. How anyone can think of voting for this shower of shite and talk about being proud of anything beats me.

Why don’t you talk about policy not insults though? I personally have backed up WHY I think people aren’t nice with a tangible example to get no response whatsoever?
I would conclude therefore that this is a tactic and people actually don’t want to talk policy - therefore not that impressed with them and revert to thinking they’re not very nice!