English people are second class citizens

[NotAnotherScarf]

Aibu To be annoyed about so many Facebook posts about celebrating st George's day being racist. No one post this for st Patrick's day, st Andrew's or st David's.... Hogmanay and burns night have parties

By celebrating being English, passing democracy to the world, Shakespeare, Agatha Christie, TV, the jet engine, the internet... railways, the industrial revolution, beer, the Beatles... All should be celebrated.

Yes we did some shite things...but white slavery (20+ million), the Holocaust, programs in Eastern Europe. King Leopold of Belgium hunting African people. The depopulation of parts of the USSR, the ethnic cleansing of Bosnia.....all things that in the last 125 years England has nothing to do with...yet people like to think that we who celebrate our Englishness are scum.

Scouts and guides all over the world organise Sr George's day events.

"British" rule. Not just English.

old person originally born in very working class area of Glasgow. I remember lots of my relatives using the term scotch to describe themselves. Didn’t realise I should be objecting to it until I was older.

We learn more about you than Scotland I think.

And we arent allowed to be proud of a nationality or fly our own flag for fear of being called racists

Yes, we are. Don't be ridiculous. I'm proud to be English, the racist twats don't speak for me and I can still be proud despite them.
If we're not allowed to fly our own flag, why have I seen it flying atop local churches for St George's Day?
Or maybe you're referring to those scratty efforts that are tied loosely to lampposts causing a hazard and put up by morons (which a lot of them are) to make some kind of point about "England for the English!" (Whatever that means)

I don't know. I don't have any hang ups about flags and being English so I can't speak for the mentality of those that do.

The fact you gain amusement from insulting other nationalities says all anyone needs to know about you as a person.

That is deliberately twisting what I said and clearly not what I meant.

You can be proud of your country of birth you know - its not a crime.

I referred to your own words.

Also an old person originally from industrial Lanarkshire and I've literally never heard a Scottish person use the word Scotch to describe anything. Not saying it didn't happen in your family but highly unusual.

If English people want to celebrate their national ( Turkish) saint then they should! Get off your holes and do it - why are you leaving it to the right wingers to hijack?
You could start with petitioning for a national bank holiday the way Scotland and the island Ireland have. St Patrick’s Day in Ireland is a lovely family day, everyone off and enjoying the holiday.

No it's ignorant English people I take issue with and you are ignorant.

No, I said people with Scottish accents were accepted as being Scottish regardless of ancestry. Nowhere did I say Scottish people without were not. Though I'm curious as to why if you are Scottish you wouldn't sound it?

So you're just on a wind up. At least you admit it.

Definitely just out for a wind up

Plenty of Scottish people I know have what would be described as RP/smart accents that are indistinguishable from an English person's accent. Or accents from the country they originated from. You don't seem to be very aware of the people in your own country?

Oh it's been done here for 25 years plus that I know of

Theres also the village fetes with maypole dancers etc

We only have one firework display in the town so it's not" more"

Scotch eggs? Scotch broth, scotch whisky

Ah yes a true show of pride, painting roundabouts, ensuring more council tax is spent to clean up their graffiti.
It's fine to celebrate at George's day if you wish, but it's not mandatory. I couldn't care less about it. I can like being English, I can also accept we have done bad things to other countries in the past but we also have done very positive things also. Most countries have a complex past. What I am ashamed of is the quantity racist twats masquerading as just having pride in the country, moaning that we're the victim of 'wokeness' and we're not allowed to be proud. We are allowed to be proud, no-one cares.