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To want SD’s room to be multifunctional?

603 replies

SamphireSupper · Yesterday 12:08

DP and I have decided to downsize as unfortunately he has medical issues which mean he can’t work full-time anymore. We have DS4 together, and SD13 who visits, at most, every other weekend. I work from home and am the breadwinner (relevant) and I currently work from the dining room.

The new house we have found is much smaller, still has three bedrooms, but no dining room. DS would have the box room. I’ve said I will need to have my desk in SD’s room. DP and SD don’t want this. AIBU?

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EmpressOfTheThread · Yesterday 15:50

Does SD's school know everything that's going on?

Worrying34 · Yesterday 15:52

NotMajorTom · Yesterday 15:50

Really interesting how on this thread the breadwinner is encouraged to feel that means they can dictate things, while on other threads being the breadwinner does not mean they get to dictate.

i wonder why…

Edited

I said this but was shot down by other posters who claim their advice would be the same if the OP were a man… I find that unlikely!

WallaceinAnderland · Yesterday 15:52

NotMajorTom · Yesterday 15:50

Really interesting how on this thread the breadwinner is encouraged to feel that means they can dictate things, while on other threads being the breadwinner does not mean they get to dictate.

i wonder why…

Edited

I don't think putting a desk in a bedroom is 'dictating' anything. It's just common sense to use a room which would otherwise be unoccupied.

SamphireSupper · Yesterday 15:53

WallaceinAnderland · Yesterday 15:50

Could she access that money as a child and would she be expected to use it to live off?

It goes to her with her mum as a trustee so it’d be between them.

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SamphireSupper · Yesterday 15:53

EmpressOfTheThread · Yesterday 15:50

Does SD's school know everything that's going on?

Yes.

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NotMajorTom · Yesterday 15:54

WallaceinAnderland · Yesterday 15:52

I don't think putting a desk in a bedroom is 'dictating' anything. It's just common sense to use a room which would otherwise be unoccupied.

It’s literally dictating. Saying “I pay for the house so I get to decide”

SamphireSupper · Yesterday 15:54

NotMajorTom · Yesterday 15:54

It’s literally dictating. Saying “I pay for the house so I get to decide”

If I lose my job, everyone suffers.

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WallaceinAnderland · Yesterday 15:54

Worrying34 · Yesterday 15:52

I said this but was shot down by other posters who claim their advice would be the same if the OP were a man… I find that unlikely!

Ok, you have a house with an empty room. You WFH but have no study or private space to use.

Do you ignore the empty room and sit in the kitchen with everything going on around you or do you make use of the quieter, more private empty room away from the hub of the house?

It makes no difference if you are male or female. Which space are you choosing?

EmpressOfTheThread · Yesterday 15:55

Worrying34 · Yesterday 15:52

I said this but was shot down by other posters who claim their advice would be the same if the OP were a man… I find that unlikely!

It's very likely, because it was me, and I can say that unequivocally. Disbelieve it all you like.
However.
More information has been provided, and the SD is clearly having a very difficult time and her school attendance has been hit. So I'm inclined to think that she needs an extra level of care and support. I would therefore suggest whatever the OP and the Dad can do, the better

mumuseli · Yesterday 15:55

mumuseli · Yesterday 15:48

In that case, I don't think she can really complain, if you will literally just be sitting at her desk with a laptop on days when she's not there. It would be different if you were wanting to keep files etc in there all the time.
Occasionally I have to be in a Teams/Zoom work thing from home, and I just find any space in the house that's quiet at that time.

Sorry, just to clarify what I said here in case it was unclear ^^ I didn't mean that you should just find any old place in the house, OP. My point was meant to be that people can be flexible so your SD shouldn't mind you sitting at 'her' study desk on days that she's not there - in fact she wouldn't even know! You could assure her that you wouldn't be touching any of her stuff that she leaves there.

NotMajorTom · Yesterday 15:55

NotMajorTom · Yesterday 15:54

It’s literally dictating. Saying “I pay for the house so I get to decide”

And op that’s not a dig at you. I really feel for you and the whole situation must be horrible.

its the posters suddenly stating paying means you have the ability to dictate, when they are oddly not saying that on other threads…

Northermcharn · Yesterday 15:55

Northermcharn · Yesterday 15:39

Can / does SD mum work?

@SamphireSupper sorry just caught up. So SM has 2 more children who are disabled. From a man who's disappeared and left her in debt. She is surely 'entitled to ' benefits that would negate most of the 700 your DH is providing to pay for 2 kids that aren't his. His daughter is clearly suffering (from what you've said about school etc) - the last thing she needs is a shared room with her SM. Its not just a 'desk in a room' - its her personal private safe space in 'her dads house'.

LemonTyger · Yesterday 15:56

Why is DS getting the box room when he lives there full time? It’s his only home.
DS gets middle sized room. DSD gets box room, which you can also use to work at…. can you get a high sleeper with a desk under? Not unreasonable for the room to be multifunctional if she’s only there every other weekend. You’re not even using it to work when she’s there.

WallaceinAnderland · Yesterday 15:57

NotMajorTom · Yesterday 15:54

It’s literally dictating. Saying “I pay for the house so I get to decide”

And her DP is 'dictating' it's my daughter, she gets to decide whether you use an empty room.

Which one is reasonable?

That OP gets to work in a suitable space or that the room sits empty?

EmpressOfTheThread · Yesterday 15:57

SamphireSupper · Yesterday 15:54

If I lose my job, everyone suffers.

Yes, and you're supporting yourself, DH and his ex, your DS, SD and the ex's unrelated children.
You're going to have to focus on work.

EmpressOfTheThread · Yesterday 15:58

NotMajorTom · Yesterday 15:55

And op that’s not a dig at you. I really feel for you and the whole situation must be horrible.

its the posters suddenly stating paying means you have the ability to dictate, when they are oddly not saying that on other threads…

What other threads?

EmpressOfTheThread · Yesterday 15:59

Northermcharn · Yesterday 15:55

@SamphireSupper sorry just caught up. So SM has 2 more children who are disabled. From a man who's disappeared and left her in debt. She is surely 'entitled to ' benefits that would negate most of the 700 your DH is providing to pay for 2 kids that aren't his. His daughter is clearly suffering (from what you've said about school etc) - the last thing she needs is a shared room with her SM. Its not just a 'desk in a room' - its her personal private safe space in 'her dads house'.

Yes, I agree. In light of this additional information, I've changed my mind on the situation. That poor girl.

Everybodys · Yesterday 16:00

Worrying34 · Yesterday 15:52

I said this but was shot down by other posters who claim their advice would be the same if the OP were a man… I find that unlikely!

Equally, if OP were a man wanting to drop maintenance by 6/7ths to his struggling XW who has their DD the large majority of the time in order to ensure they could maintain the same lifestyle, there would be plenty said about that too!

DotAndCarryOne2 · Yesterday 16:02

Northermcharn · Yesterday 15:55

@SamphireSupper sorry just caught up. So SM has 2 more children who are disabled. From a man who's disappeared and left her in debt. She is surely 'entitled to ' benefits that would negate most of the 700 your DH is providing to pay for 2 kids that aren't his. His daughter is clearly suffering (from what you've said about school etc) - the last thing she needs is a shared room with her SM. Its not just a 'desk in a room' - its her personal private safe space in 'her dads house'.

CMS income is not counted for benefits, so SM wouldn’t necessarily be entitled to any other benefits if CMS stopped.

Tairneanach · Yesterday 16:02

Can you have the largest room and put a desk in your bedroom? DS the second largest room as he lives there full time, and SD have the box room as she is only there occasionally. It's unfair to put DS in the smallest room when there's a larger room being unused most of the month. It's also unfair to expect to put the desk in their personal space when you can put it in your own personal space.

GlovedhandsCecilia · Yesterday 16:03

Manxexile · Yesterday 14:00

@BarbiesDreamHome - "... On another point, SD doesn't have a double bed, you and DP have a double bed in the room she uses when she stays over..."

Sorry but i don't understand this?

The OP has said that the SD does have a double bed.

The OP and her DP have already got a double bed in their own room. Why would they have another in the SD's room?

She was trying to emphasise that nothing of the girl's is really hers. Her father and the OP own it and merely let her use it (and could stop her at any time). It's more territory marking and letting SD know her place is way behind the OP.

Bloodycrossstitch · Yesterday 16:03

With how much your SD has been through recently I think you should work in your room or in the kitchen for now and review the set up again once everything has settled. I think you need to prioritise her feeling secure for the moment.

SamphireSupper · Yesterday 16:04

Northermcharn · Yesterday 15:55

@SamphireSupper sorry just caught up. So SM has 2 more children who are disabled. From a man who's disappeared and left her in debt. She is surely 'entitled to ' benefits that would negate most of the 700 your DH is providing to pay for 2 kids that aren't his. His daughter is clearly suffering (from what you've said about school etc) - the last thing she needs is a shared room with her SM. Its not just a 'desk in a room' - its her personal private safe space in 'her dads house'.

SD’s mum is stuck in a rental she can’t otherwise afford. She is on a waiting list for housing. If she moved somewhere cheaper, she’d need to move SD’s school, or SD would need to move in with us, which she doesn’t want, and frankly I would struggle with too.

I know SD’s mum well and she’s not scamming us.

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Everybodys · Yesterday 16:05

EmpressOfTheThread · Yesterday 15:58

What other threads?

Yes, I don't think there actually are many threads where one breadwinner is functioning as essential financial security for two households who are between them weathering an appalling mixture of cancer, multiple DC with AN, problem debt and school difficulties. It's a pretty niche set of circumstances. I will of course take this back if anyone can show it comes up all the time.

SamphireSupper · Yesterday 16:06

Bloodycrossstitch · Yesterday 16:03

With how much your SD has been through recently I think you should work in your room or in the kitchen for now and review the set up again once everything has settled. I think you need to prioritise her feeling secure for the moment.

No, I need to prioritise not losing my job. I am on medication for stress, and have already taken time off to support DP through surgeries. Trying to work in an open plan kitchen with people around, or spending 18hrs a day in my bedroom, won’t work.

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