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To want SD’s room to be multifunctional?

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SamphireSupper · Yesterday 12:08

DP and I have decided to downsize as unfortunately he has medical issues which mean he can’t work full-time anymore. We have DS4 together, and SD13 who visits, at most, every other weekend. I work from home and am the breadwinner (relevant) and I currently work from the dining room.

The new house we have found is much smaller, still has three bedrooms, but no dining room. DS would have the box room. I’ve said I will need to have my desk in SD’s room. DP and SD don’t want this. AIBU?

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Bellaroose · Yesterday 15:34

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SamphireSupper · Yesterday 15:34

EmpressOfTheThread · Yesterday 15:29

Ok, so in this turbulence, your SD has not been at school?
This really puts a different complexion on things, about how vulnerable she is.

Her attendance has been below where we and school would like it to be. She is very upset about her stepdad leaving, about her mum’s emotional state, and now about her dad being unwell.

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GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · Yesterday 15:32

Have I missed why DSD is not at school?

OP says that the ex is supporting SD to be back at school full time. This would indicate school refusal, or some sort of illness and/or anxiety..

Bellaroose · Yesterday 15:35

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EmpressOfTheThread · Yesterday 15:35

SamphireSupper · Yesterday 15:34

Her attendance has been below where we and school would like it to be. She is very upset about her stepdad leaving, about her mum’s emotional state, and now about her dad being unwell.

Sorry, I cross posted with my guess about what was happening.
So the SD sounds very vulnerable. What an awful situation, poor girl.

SamphireSupper · Yesterday 15:36

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It’s fine, no issues. I wouldn’t say we were extremely close but we get on fine when she’s here.

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I know. Some kids really go through it, don't they?

WallaceinAnderland · Yesterday 15:36

SamphireSupper · Yesterday 15:18

It’s me driving the move. We have a large mortgage which is not sustainable. Frankly, if DP dies, I can afford the new house alone. And if he gets better, we can move in 5 years time when SD is an adult and DS is at a time when he needs more bedroom space.

If your DP died, would you still pay the cms to his ex?

DotAndCarryOne2 · Yesterday 15:37

Worrying34 · Yesterday 15:22

If it was a bloke who came on here and said their wife had become ill and as he was now the breadwinner he was going to unilaterally decide his SC's bedroom doubled up as his office people would be up in arms!

There have been a lot of suggestions as to how else she might be able to work in peace.

And also a lot of suggestions as to how she could discuss this with her DP and SD to protect the relationship with the SD so that it's compromising and finding a solution as a family rather than her stomping all over what they want.

I rather think that if OP is downsizing so that they can continue to pay his ex the same level of CMS and DSD is saying no to her room being multi use, it’s OP wants and needs being stomped on, not the other way around.

SamphireSupper · Yesterday 15:37

WallaceinAnderland · Yesterday 15:36

If your DP died, would you still pay the cms to his ex?

No I wouldn’t. At this point, SD would receive money from his estate (as would DS).

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SamphireSupper · Yesterday 15:27

CMS isn’t counted as income when benefits are given out.

She’s on the waiting list for a council house, she’s supporting SD to be back at school full-time, and she’s just been cheated on and deserted and left in a lot of debt. I have said I’ll ensure she’s paid as she was for now, then we will need to review in six months and a year.

I think you're showing a lot of compassion to SD's mum.

I agree that your desk should be in SD's room. It's a practical solution to have a 'door you can shut' when there are other people in the house

Is there a way to make it 'her desk' when she's there but easily change it over into yours? Meaning there is desk 'decor' that she would like (lamp, notepads, pencil/pen holder, corkboard, etc) with whoever/whatever she likes. Then when she's not it could be taken down easily for a more 'professional' or adult look.

Volpini · Yesterday 15:38

Nothing to add that others haven’t but just want to say my goodness, you are as a family going through a lot. I’ve been there with a husband with cancer and small kids, wft etc. it’s brutal.
all you can do is acknowledge this lovingly to your SD and say that none of you like the situation you find yourselves in but you are all doing the absolute best you can - which you are by maintaining the payments to the ex. You sound like a giant of a woman. X
Sending love to you all and best wishes to your DH for his recovery. Take care of yourself.

RoseBlueuet · Yesterday 15:39

I think I must be really callous, because I would want to get away from all of this, these people and their problems.

This is much more than hot desking, and your dp having cancer does put a sense of urgency on things - given he can't work.

You aren't married yet you are assuming all of this financial responsibility and taking away from your own son, so given these major updates OP, the conversation should be one way, and final.

When your partner's dd isn't at your house, the room becomes the office that aids the work you do to facilitate all of these people having a roof over their heads!

Woodfiresareamazing · Yesterday 15:39

Controversial thought - SD has a home, and her own room, at her mum's house. Where she spends 86% of her time per month, which is her choice.

And which is now financially facilitated by her SM.

She stays over at her DF's and SM's house for 2-4 days per month (max 14% of time per mth), where she currently has sole use of a bedroom. She doesn't leave much stuff there.
I'd be willing to bet she doesn't look on it as 'home'.
I'd bet she refers to it as 'staying at her dad's place'.

But due to changing health and financial circumstances, things have to change. She will still get to stay in a room that no-one else sleeps in, that's bigger than her step brother's, that she can decorate to her taste.

No, she didn't choose to be born, for her parents to split up, for her mum to remarry, for her mum to have 2 more kids who also have SEN, for her dad to have cancer etc etc.

Her stepbrother didn't choose to be part of a blended family either.

Her dad didn't choose to get cancer.

Her SM didn't choose to be the main breadwinner.

But life happens, circumstances change, and compromises have to be made. 🤷‍♀️
A desk in the room you sleep in 14% of the time is really not a big deal.

Northermcharn · Yesterday 15:39

SamphireSupper · Yesterday 14:06

Genuine question here about how I have no empathy.

DP previously paid SD’s mum £700 a month. He’s now earning significantly less and his required CMS contribution is in the region of £100 or less. As a couple, we have decided to maintain the £700 as her mum relies heavily on it.

If we kept that £700, we would probably be able to afford our current house. Certainly an extra study.

Do you think it’s better that we keep the money and put SD’s mum into poverty, or that SD has to put up with an empty desk in her room 2-4 days a month?

Can / does SD mum work?

DotAndCarryOne2 · Yesterday 15:40

665theneighborofthebeast · Yesterday 15:20

You paying the £700 means that is money she cant claim in benefits.. unless she's not declaring it. ?
But with two disabled children she should be eligible to claim a fair amount, so you giving her £700 instead of £ 100 is you pissing away £600 and as it turns out, your home !!!!

CMS isn’t counted as income for benefit purposes.

Everybodys · Yesterday 15:41

DotAndCarryOne2 · Yesterday 15:37

I rather think that if OP is downsizing so that they can continue to pay his ex the same level of CMS and DSD is saying no to her room being multi use, it’s OP wants and needs being stomped on, not the other way around.

Exactly.

Unfortunately there's now less money coming in. Every adult and child in both households need OP to keep doing her job and earning well, which means a suitable workplace in the home. Money can't be spent twice, so unless anyone knows of a better house for an affordable price in the locality, it's either a worsened room situation for DSD or less maintenance. There's no good choice here. Cancer is a twat.

DotAndCarryOne2 · Yesterday 15:41

Woodfiresareamazing · Yesterday 15:39

Controversial thought - SD has a home, and her own room, at her mum's house. Where she spends 86% of her time per month, which is her choice.

And which is now financially facilitated by her SM.

She stays over at her DF's and SM's house for 2-4 days per month (max 14% of time per mth), where she currently has sole use of a bedroom. She doesn't leave much stuff there.
I'd be willing to bet she doesn't look on it as 'home'.
I'd bet she refers to it as 'staying at her dad's place'.

But due to changing health and financial circumstances, things have to change. She will still get to stay in a room that no-one else sleeps in, that's bigger than her step brother's, that she can decorate to her taste.

No, she didn't choose to be born, for her parents to split up, for her mum to remarry, for her mum to have 2 more kids who also have SEN, for her dad to have cancer etc etc.

Her stepbrother didn't choose to be part of a blended family either.

Her dad didn't choose to get cancer.

Her SM didn't choose to be the main breadwinner.

But life happens, circumstances change, and compromises have to be made. 🤷‍♀️
A desk in the room you sleep in 14% of the time is really not a big deal.

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Absolutely this.

PeacePilgrim · Yesterday 15:43

Payment they are giving is 700 a month
Not week

Howmanycatsistoomany · Yesterday 15:47

YANBU OP. Your DP is being a bit of a dick though.

Worrying34 · Yesterday 15:48

DotAndCarryOne2 · Yesterday 15:37

I rather think that if OP is downsizing so that they can continue to pay his ex the same level of CMS and DSD is saying no to her room being multi use, it’s OP wants and needs being stomped on, not the other way around.

But again the OP has described it as her decision to move and downsize, and her decision to continue paying the CMS at that level.

And then she basically keeps saying: I’m the breadwinner so I should be able to decide this, despite what my DP and SD want.

Earning more money doesn’t mean you get to make unilateral decisions about huge things that affect everyone.

She also admits the child doesn’t know this and doesn’t want to tell her so from the SD’s point of view her dad and partner have moved to a new property in which there isn’t space for her, and her bedroom is of secondary importance to her Stepmother’s office. That is unfortunately how she will see it if they don’t involve her in this decision.

mumuseli · Yesterday 15:48

SamphireSupper · Yesterday 12:16

She’s only with us on weekends, when I’m not working. I’d take my laptop out. She’d be welcome to use the desk for homework too

In that case, I don't think she can really complain, if you will literally just be sitting at her desk with a laptop on days when she's not there. It would be different if you were wanting to keep files etc in there all the time.
Occasionally I have to be in a Teams/Zoom work thing from home, and I just find any space in the house that's quiet at that time.

EmpressOfTheThread · Yesterday 15:50

Worrying34 · Yesterday 15:48

But again the OP has described it as her decision to move and downsize, and her decision to continue paying the CMS at that level.

And then she basically keeps saying: I’m the breadwinner so I should be able to decide this, despite what my DP and SD want.

Earning more money doesn’t mean you get to make unilateral decisions about huge things that affect everyone.

She also admits the child doesn’t know this and doesn’t want to tell her so from the SD’s point of view her dad and partner have moved to a new property in which there isn’t space for her, and her bedroom is of secondary importance to her Stepmother’s office. That is unfortunately how she will see it if they don’t involve her in this decision.

Yes, I think they should talk to her about it, but I'm wondering if the SD is particularly vulnerable at the moment, as she's just getting back into school, she might be a bit overwhelmed.

WallaceinAnderland · Yesterday 15:50

SamphireSupper · Yesterday 15:37

No I wouldn’t. At this point, SD would receive money from his estate (as would DS).

Could she access that money as a child and would she be expected to use it to live off?

NotMajorTom · Yesterday 15:50

Really interesting how on this thread the breadwinner is encouraged to feel that means they can dictate things, while on other threads being the breadwinner does not mean they get to dictate.

i wonder why…