To wonder if there will be any fall out from skinny jabs?

[TheLemonGuide]

Everyone I know is now suddenly very slim. Okay, im exaggerating slightly, but genuinely, most of my friends who were previously overweight are all now slim thanks to skinny jabs. I am delighted for them! It seems unbelievable to think that a jab can cure this obesity crisis, but I am so pleased my friends and a couple of family members are able to live a healthier life thanks to this.

My only slight concern is, is this something that is going to be too good to be true? Do you think there will be any long term repercussions, or are we right to just celebrate this medication as a cure for something that so many have been battling for so long?

We cross posted. Note that both our posts were made at 1327.

I'm referring to what had actually been posted when you made the evidence taken apart comment, which was most recently an exaggerated and inaccurate claim about blindness.

Are you saying you know more that experts?

Guys, wine and popcorn is how we all ended up on a WLI thread in the first place. Try just not wanting wine and popcorn 😉

Not at all @Witchonenowbob -

Many experts have deemed these drugs as safe to use in certain contexts.

However there are also experts quoted in these articles.

Can you hold this concept , that there can be two sets of experts?

Did you read those links? Because the fact some small amount of people for example can get disordered eating isn’t disputed. And arguably you need to already have it to get to a bmi 68 as per one of the case studies.

Can you hold the concept that people can counter argue, and call you out on insinuating people who take WLI, are in some way stupid and unable to do research and just stick their fingers in their ears?

@JacquesHarlow thanks for posting the Lancet article link, it's very interesting. I am a little confused though, but it's probably my misunderstanding, as it seems to be saying that achieving a 10% reduction in weight over 1 to 2 years via GLP1s showed a net benefit to those achieving it. Those who lost less weight (5%) found the net benefits to not be worth it compared to the "harms" experienced. although that depended to some degree on the individual's own attitude to harm and risk. For many even a 5% weight loss was considered beneficial overall.

"Harms" includes all possible side effects from mild (burping, flatulence) to the very severe (eg pancreatitis).

I've lost over 50% of my starting weight without experiencing any significant side effects, which is probably why I am cock-a-hoop about it.

The whole thing of marketing teams and cult view is just really childish and immature.

if someone posts misinformation it should always be corrected. We have seen many flakes claims on this thread. There will be people reading this and not commenting and no one should just let misinformation sit.

secondly most obese people have tried everything to lose weight. The drugs are the last resort. Not the first. And so to find something that works, that gives you your health back, is utterly amazing for those of us on them.

no one is trying to market them or be in a cult. It likely seems that way to those not on them as they cant grasp something could have so many positive benefits. But no one is lying or making shit up.

i had high bp, high cholesterol, sleep apnea, high cortisol. My bmi was 32. My body can’t cope with additional weight. It’s now bmi 20. All my blood test results are smack bang in the middle of healthy. Optimal. The heath issues I had have all gone. I’m also a size 8 and love my appearance again. Which is great for mental health. I work out 6 days a week, I look fit and toned, my hair is a million times better, as it was thinning and dry looking before. My diet is very healthy, I’m fully hydrated, and I drink minimally. I have had no side effects. Like 80 percent of people. I’ve been maintaning on a low dose for nearly a year and a half.

thats not selling it, cult like, or marketing, that’s simply factual. There is no way round it. This is the facts for me.

I can't find the link to the article I read that mention there are 100 cases of blindness due to NAION in the USA. Not that it would be good enough on this thread if I did.

But here:

"May 1, 2026: Judge in Ozempic MDL Issues Two Discovery Orders as Number of NAION Claims Approaches 90

There are 86 claims in the multidistrict litigation about whether Ozempic and other GLP-1s caused some patients to develop NAION. NAION is a type of eye stroke that can result in permanent blindness in one or both eyes. Some cases of NAION have no warning signs. Some people who have filed legal claims against companies that make Ozempic and similar products believe those companies should have warned patients about the risks of NAION."

Ozempic Blindness Lawsuit [2026 Update] | King Law

Well no, it isn't good enough to say a case people are bringing without any outcome or fact findings yet is the same thing as there being proof of 100 cases of blindness due to the drug. You do get that, right?

The case could eventually succeed but the fact that it exists and is still at this early stage is not evidence the claims are correct. People are right to point that out.

The reason it comes off like marketing, is because they’re the same points over and over.

You have said that you work out 6 days a week, how toned you are, how well you eat.

I’m sure all those things are great for you, and you’re rightfully pleased with them, but when it’s the same positive messages repeatedly it reads more like you’re trying to get others to join you on that journey. Which not everybody wants to.

It’s a bit “hammering the point home,” which you wouldn’t need to do if you weren’t trying to convince someone of something.

You’re so convinced of their wonderfulness, that when someone says they don’t want them, you tell them that you don’t believe them and they’re just jealous. Like everyone who doesn’t want to use them actually just has FOMO.

Like I said, very “marketing campaign.”

That just comes across as petulant and resentful. Many things have been repeated on here. Many, it’s how discussions work. It isn’t you said if 4 pages ago and now it’s valid for another draft claim you can’t say it again.

and I am not trying to sell gnem to anyone. I don’t have shares in the companies, but yes I will point out misinformation and the facts. Repeatedly. And if you don’t like it, then join me in stopping misinformation as then fhere will be no need for it,

I didn't say there was proof. I have posted up thread that there is to be a day examining the evidence of linkage to NAION.

The snippy patronising and picking apart of every statement is really unnecessary, but seems to be the go-to for those trying to shut down discussion of any possible negatives associated with WLI. Meanwhile, Google AI says:

"As of May 2026, thousands of lawsuits (over 4,200 in federal courts) in the USA allege GLP-1 drugs like Ozempic, Wegovy, and Mounjaro cause severe, undisclosed gastrointestinal issues, including stomach paralysis (gastroparesis), intestinal obstruction, and vision loss (NAION). Plaintiffs allege manufacturers failed to warn them of these risks."

If I find the source of the 100 blind people at some point I will add it to the thread, if the thread is not full by then.

Because you posted misinformation, you wrote this. I do know there are at least 100 people in the States alone suffering from permanent blindness as a result of trusting these drugs would help improve their health

there is no evidence of this and ai scrapes say there is not one proven case. Not one. And you then proceeded to post a couple of completely unrelated links, talking about random unrelated stuff, ie how someone with a bmi of 68 developed disordered eating,

and now you’re complaining people are picking apart whay you wrote. Like you should be able to make up stuff, post it and not have it challenged.

its not picky to point out misinformation.

You posted:

I do know there are at least 100 people in the States alone suffering from permanent blindness as a result of trusting these drugs would help improve their health

If you in fact accept there isn't proof, then you don't know that at all. It's not snappy or nit picking, it's extremely important to be clear on the distinction.

If it's that important to you to be able to talk about potential negatives, stop trying to shut down clarification. Again, simply saying that this court case exists and you think it's worth bringing to the attention of those reading would've been fine.

You can’t find the link, but you want us to believe that it’s true? Surely it would be documented somewhere with an easy search?

Yes, I do know this, based on what I read from a reputable source. I didn't pull that figure out of my arse. Why are you all so belligerent?

In any case, a figure of 86 blind cases are currently part of one MDL in the USA. You seem to be avoiding mentioning that number.

No one is neglecting mentioning that number, what’s being said is simply as a law suit exists doesn’t mean the person suing is correct. At this stage there is no evidence to conclude it was the drugs, more these people may have already got it even if not on them. These are not healthy people.

the USA has thousands of law suits. You should not read it and assume that means the plaintiff is correct, despite no medical evidence to support it. Thr article is clear even though they are representing the plaintiff. More medical investigation is required. Right now, these were unhealthy people who were at increased risk of it. Who sadly got it and are saying it’s the drug.

id also point out its 86 out of 15 million on the drug in the USA.

So we can have the guys…

I can believe you didn't invent the at least 100 figure yourself (mentioned!), that it came from someone else, but we have absolutely no reason to place the level of trust in them that you do. And this is not your first convenient failure to back up a claim.

It's a bit concerning that you think anyone daring to question your beliefs and unverified assertions is belligerent.

Because those cases in the MDL (type of US court case) are not proven. The are alleged. There is no evidence that any of those cases were caused by GLP1s.

The way you and others have hammered at me over this feels belligerent. The leaping down other posters throats for daring to have a thought that opposes the story of happy ever after throughout this thread feels belligerent. The language used in response to some murmur of concern, the ridicule that ensues, the picking apart of language, the tone of how-dare-you, the contempt, the patronising, the flying off the handle, it all feels belligerent to me.

It's great if you are all enjoying better health while using WLI. But those people who are now permanently blind, or incapacitated in some way through gastroparesis, or lugging around a colostomy bag, or minus a gallbladder, were also just hoping to improve their health and appearance. Perhaps you'd all rather not think about them, and hammering at others who make the mistake of drawing your collective attention to such possibilities helps quiet those thoughts.

Exercise is very important so as long as they get you heart rate up and provide a little bodyweight resistance train8ng, do with them what you will 😀

The way you're responding to entirely reasonable points feels belligerent.

It's like you're trying to shut down discussion because you can't stand being corrected. Flying off the handle because people have asked you to make sure the information you're posting is accurate. It's all how very dare you.

Thank you for proving my point.

Contempt, ridicule, and a spot of DARVO for garnish.