AIBU to think the Prime Minister cannot stay in post?

[Bertiebiscuit]

So our Prime Minister is doing what he does best - blaming someone else for his own mistakes. But i really think he's done for this time - if he didn't know he's incompetent, if he did know he's lying to Parliament and the whole country. Either way i don't see how he can expect to keep his job. It's frightening how little he cared for Mandelson 's cosying up to a sex abuser, paedophile and human trafficker.

He is. People just don't like him so are going to jump on him every chance they get.

The bloke could bring about world peace single handed and you lot will still do threads wanting his head.

It's weird.

Like I said, it you feel safe enough to be able to whine then be content with that for a bit until the world settles down.

good grief , he will probably be gone after the may elections to be replaced by who ?
Angela Rayner ?

Politics is so cut-throat that other possibilities do indeed exist, depending on who is aligning with whom at any given time.

One scenario is that Starmer wasn't told precisely because someone wanted him to look bad when it eventually came to light.

Another plausible one is that he wasn't told precisely because he's the Prime Minister. No knowledge = no fault.

It's all about allegiances and ambition. If you think this sounds far-fetched then you just need to look at the multiple political scandals over the years that have taken place.

I think the last thing the UK needs at the moment is more turmoil, with a madman currently occupying the Whitehouse.

And people (e.g. PPs) don't just get to call for an election every time they don't like the incumbent because that's not how democracy works. If we couldn't overturn the Brexit fiasco, which was based on an advisory referendum with the slimmest of margins, then why the hell would we overturn a landslide by democratic means written into our country's established constitution?

It's not 'literally impossible to pass DV if you're a journalist' - what an absurd thing to post. Who told you that? Do you think they were joking or were they trying to trick you?

Boris Johnson passing the DV is based on the DV process - not your opinion of it.

Has anyone here heard of Boris Johnson? No?

I don't believe peddling the line that someone might be much worse is a valid reason to keep someone as poor as Starmer in post. That's desperation.

Do you have any posts in mind?

Or are those the ones you generally don’t agree with?

We're commenting on yet another crisis of his own making. He's not above criticism or judgement.

Hear, hear!

What @Whatafustercluck said.

Seriously though, who would you prefer?

He got blamed for the war recently I saw. People will be blaming him for the rain next. The cloud seeding lot already do blame the government for that.

People have their own ideas on what he should be doing and tear him apart for not doing it fast enough. The bloke will never win.

We don't need a change in leadership right now. It would be stupid. People need to go and touch some grass.

Boris Johnson was a minister and therefore did not undergo DV. It is for civil servants, military and contractors. Ministers are exempt from vetting.

I was asked about journalists in the family and among friends during both the SC and DV processes.

Imagine how this debate would have gone if Nigel Farage or Boris Johnson were Prime Minister. Boris Johnson resigned instead of facing Parliament to account for allegations of lying.

It would be sensible - a change in leader should weed out a lot of the rubbish in the cabinet and at least slow down the destruction of the country.

This is a bloke who stood up to the biggest bully we've had the misfortune to clap eyes on and said no. That takes stones. Just let him do his bloody job and stop constantly whining.

That's a good question. I would probably favour a wild card appointment but since I'm not a member of the Labour party, I get no say. I don't think Andy Burnham would be any worse than Starmer in all honesty and I'm certainly no fan of his.

God these threads are so tedious.

Every time something happens which people don’t like there are calls for a general election or for the prime minister to resign. Over what exactly?

I didn’t vote for labour but I actually think the whole conflict in Iran and Starmer’s response to it will have won labour more favour.

And what exactly is the alternative? Reform? Do people think that slippery little cunt Nigel Farage is going to do a good job of leading the country?

It doesn’t matter who’s in charge. These things are always going to happen. When was the last time anyone said that someone did a good job of leading the country exactly?

Certainly not in my lifetime it hasn’t and I’m in my 50’s

I didn’t vote for labour but I actually think the whole conflict in Iran and Starmer’s response to it will have won labour more favour.

The latest poll is pretty damning - how bad were they polling previously?

https://www.ipsos.com/en-uk/uk-opinion-polls

Burnham isn't an MP, and was blocked from standing.

How would he be able to be Starmer's replacement, if Starmer is forced out in the near future?

Andy Burnham isn't even an MP let alone in the running to be PM.

He will be gone by the end of May, if not this week, but he’d do well to recognise his own incompetence and go now. I’m hoping a backbencher replaces him and most of the cabinet.

I didn't say he was an MP. I was asked who I thought would be better.

My point was that as Andy Burnham isn't an MP he can't be PM even if you think he would be better. Which MP or member of the Cabinet do you think would do a better job than Starmer?

And you don't have to be an MP to be PM anyway