AIBU to think the Prime Minister cannot stay in post?

[Bertiebiscuit]

So our Prime Minister is doing what he does best - blaming someone else for his own mistakes. But i really think he's done for this time - if he didn't know he's incompetent, if he did know he's lying to Parliament and the whole country. Either way i don't see how he can expect to keep his job. It's frightening how little he cared for Mandelson 's cosying up to a sex abuser, paedophile and human trafficker.

He should have gone long ago. The main worry with that is though, who will replace him!

We've had four prime ministers in 5 years - it's the most rapid turnover of leadership in nearly a century and one of the most volatile periods in British political history. Why are we in such a flap to make it 5 in 5?

I'm no fan of Starmer and didn't vote for him - but is the Mandelson thing affecting his ability to do the day-to-day duties of his job?

Looking for a political leader who has impeccable morals and never tells lies is like chasing rainbows.

Can we have some bloody stability, just for a little while?!

im in two minds - if he stays he does more damage to the Labour Party which is always a bonus but the longer he stays the more damage he does to the country.

An early GE should be called.

No he should not go

While the choice of Mandelson was questionable he was not informed of all the information

He is PM, it is not his role to oversee that people pass a vetting process that is for others to do and report back

What do you expect Starmer to be doing exactly, reading over CV's and references

An early election

what for exactly ?

YANBU at all, and I say that as a Labour party member.

There were rumours about Mandelson err... lacking integrity... as far back as the 1980s. I thought dull but (supposedly) decent Starmer would have known better than to appoint him to anything important.

I wonder if the NEC members who voted against letting Andy Burnham stand in the Gorton by-election are regretting their decision now? It's hard to think of a front-bench Labour MP who'd be much of an improvement on Starmer imo, and I can't think of a backbencher who'd get enough support. I reckon Burnham would have been a shoo-in if he was an MP atm.

You're kidding right?? Why on earth would they call an early GE when the tories didn't and were waaaaaaaay messier...

Yes, but have you seen his potential successors? I'd rather have inept starmer at the helm than any of them. It's bleak, very bleak.

Tbf we’re due a new one

Of course he CAN stay; nothing requires him to resign or be removed. He's certainly done no worse than others who have stayed in the recent past.

If he goes, though, there won't be a GE, just a new Labour leader through the normal party Leadership process and that person becomes PM. There hasn't been a GE in response to a change of PM since the Fixed Term Parliaments Act was repealed and the Dissolution and Calling of Parliament Act 2022 basically replaced it - now you'd need either (1) Starmer to proactively call an election and then resign rather than being removed or (2) the new Labour Leader to become PM and then call an election - either way knowing that there will effectively be no government and literally be no HOC or MP representation during the time it takes to plan the election and campaign. Neither of these are in Labour's, or arguably the country's, best interests.

In my mind in these financially and globally difficult times we need a centrist, sensible, serious adult in charge and he’s the best man for the job. Not keen on the u turns and the left of the party are going to keep tripping him up but there’s no one else who looks better at the moment in any party.

The man should show some integrity and resign. If the Labour party can't find anyone suitable to replace him then call an early general election. The country needs stability not Starmer's endless stupidity, lies and psychodramas.

This is not his psycho drama this is the billionaire owned right wing press constantly coming for him

I didn’t vote for the Labour Party but I can see the sense in this response.
Others’ clearly did not do their job. You don’t keep a dog to bark yourself. It is they who should be sacked & made public.

Stop making endless excuses for his appalling performance.

I don't have a problem with Starmer staying, the whole fiasco is such a load of guff and a waste of time and attention.

I would be happy if he had the balls to say he knew Mandy was dodgy but you have to set a thief to catch a thief ( or whatever the slimy corrupt version of this saying tailored to that orange guys is) and he was on a short leash, but we wanted him to deal with Trump.

The only reason he will go is if he wants to go. I would if I were him as it's a bloody terrible job, but presumably he took that into account when he applied. And there will be no general election. Of course.

Mandelson appointment clearly an error but don't see what good it does for him to resign now. We can't keep changing PMs/ holding elections/ referendums every couple of years, and there's not an obvious successor in the Labour party right now who I think would be much better. He was elected less than two years ago to serve a five year term, and the Labour government is on track to deliver most of what was in their manifesto.

All PMs make mistakes in office, and if the public feel strongly about them, they can vote them out at the next election. I suspect considering his approval ratings Labour will replace him before the next election, but it's still three years away. It probably makes more sense to keep him in to ensure some stability through the current geopolitical nightmare, which I do think he's probably handled as well as he could, then choose a different leader in advance of next election. Public can make their minds up then which party they want to govern the country. Media are just desperate to bring down another PM.

Why are Brits so obsessed with getting someone too stand in front of them and say "I'm sorry"? After a while it just becomes totally meaningless. Someone chose to overlook the fact that Mandelson is, and always has been a complete grifter. However, he probably WAS someone who knew how to handle Trump.
Now he's gone, he'll probably end up with a fine or prison, let's just let someone do the job of PM. 🤷

For Parliament?

Another thread on this.

Who should replace him? I can't think of someone from current Labour that I would prefer.

I do not think it is only the right wing press

it is coming from inside the Labour party too

For parliament ?

Starmer (if pushed to leave) will not be calling an election Labour will still be in government what makes you think he would call an election

To vote in a government that might actually want to help Britain.

Tell me you don't understand how the UK parliamentary system works without telling me..