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AIBU to think our neighbours are singling us out as foreigners?

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BloodyForeignerNeighbour · 18/04/2026 23:45

Me and my husband have been living in the UK for more than 10 years. I am Eastern European and he is (white) American. We have left London and bought a house in the south east a few years ago. Back in London we used to live on a nice street of terraces with many international families. We never felt out of place there and made an effort to be friendly with our neighbours.

The current house is in a little close of about 10 detached houses and bungalows. Most owners are very elderly (we didn't know it before we moved). Naturally we don't have very much in common with them but we are nice and polite. I have noticed that a few of our new neighbours prefer to talk to my husband, even though I am normally the more social one, and work from home way more than him. Our next door neighbour didn't even know my name until last year. I have a gut feeling that she is uncomfortable to address me, but she got along quite well with my husband who helped her with a few things.

The close is ruled by John, a middle aged ex-forces man in one of the bungalows. He is a type I would not be surprised to find supervising a Raise the Colours operation on one of the roundabouts on the weekends, not that I actually spotted him, so this stereotype might be on me. When there is a problem, like a sewage blockage or an unfamiliar car parked in the close the elderly neighbours ask John for help. He is a bit like a proud rooster protecting his flock of hapless frail hens.

John sends us Christmas cards, but he dislikes us. We replaced a rotten down trellis in our front garden with a slightly bigger one when we moved in and John complained to the council that the new trellis destroys the character of the close (this was disclosed by another neighbour). He has complained to the dog warden that our dog is straying when he accidentally got out of the door and hung around the entrance to get back in. We never confronted him directly about these things because they came to nothing. We hoped he will eventually calm down on his own.

Two weeks ago, when away for Easter we have spotted John and our next door neighbour (an 85 year old widow who rarely leaves her house) through our ring camera, standing in our carport and inspecting the party wall, in animated conversation. We asked what's the matter and John told us that "we are ok, have nothing to worry about". They quickly walked away.

A few days later we received a very officially worded formal letter accusing us of attaching a water pipe to the party wall without asking permission, which has caused cracks in the neighbours house. We were requested to pay for damages and arrange for structural inspection within strict timelines.

We did not attach anything, the pipe was there for the last 10 years, and it is easy to prove if it came to it. Our issue is with the shocking hostility and invasion of our privacy.

I feel very put out that this really normally quite proper and nice old lady who gave our kids Easter eggs a week before and asked us to roll out her rubbish bins on collection day felt emboldened to stride right into our carport when we were away without asking permission and then accuse us out of the blue of tampering with her wall, without even attempting to talk to us first. I cannot imagine how she would react if I was doing it in her carport. It destroyed my Friday morning and I am fuming.

AIBU to feel like we are being singled out and targeted (presumably as foreigners) or is this a typical curtain twitching and low level neighbour to neighbour aggression? And if the former what can we do?

OP posts:
Merseymum1980 · 18/04/2026 23:49

Speak to a solicitor about harrasment

Agrumpyknitter · 18/04/2026 23:55

YANBU. You are being singled out. From this I couldn’t say it was definitely because of your background. Maybe he thinks you should have been more deferential to him and is looking for ways to cause you trouble in turn. Or maybe he’s just a horrible, lonely man who has nothing better to do but stir trouble.

PussInBin20 · 19/04/2026 00:00

Maybe it’s just coz you are the new guys and John has nothing better to do and is a busybody.
I would either go and talk to the next door neighbour or just ignore the letter. I mean, what are they going to do? Make them prove it.

TheDelcosArabiaNSoul · 19/04/2026 00:12

John has too much time on his hands.

Helpboat · 19/04/2026 00:19

They’re harrassing you. Log everything and document times dates and what’s said. They’re absolutely singling you out the old bored farts.

ilovesooty · 19/04/2026 00:25

TheDelcosArabiaNSoul · 19/04/2026 00:12

John has too much time on his hands.

We had someone like John posting on here recently. He'd designated himself as an unofficial Neighbourhood Watch officer.

GuineaPigWig · 19/04/2026 00:30

He sounds awful, but contrary to PPs I can’t see any clear evidence he is against you as you are foreigners. He probably doesn’t like any newbies, and certainly no one that doesn’t bow to his (self-appointed) authority. There are plenty of these threads on MN without the xenophobic/racist angle.

Having said this, clearly he’s a massive arsehole so more likely to also be xenophobic /racist!

PerkingFaintly · 19/04/2026 00:30

I'm sorry to hear you're going through that.Flowers

In practical terms, can you divide and conquer?

Perhaps go to the 85-year-old neighbour with letter in hand (presumably John wrote it and she may not know the details) and say, "I'm sorry to read you're having trouble with your wall. As you know better than I, that waterpipe long pre-dates us. And you know I was a bit disappointed to see you coming into the carport like that without asking us. John can be a bit of a steam roller, can't he?"

Won't hurt to drop something in to bond more with her – about the bins, easter eggs, whatever.

Livelovebehappy · 19/04/2026 00:39

More likely due to you still being considered as newbies. My parents, white British, moved to a lovely rural village in the North 10 years ago, and are still struggling to get past the newbie stage. Many people in these settings have lived there all their life, as have their parents, grandparents etc, and can often be hostile to incomers. It’s a very common situation. Often a little misogynistic too, as many older people in these towns/villages will be slightly more accepting of the males than females.

Shitmonger · 19/04/2026 00:41

I wonder if John is a bit miffed or threatened by your husband? It sounds like he is well-liked and has been helpful to the neighbours, which is enough to set John off if he views it as “his” neighbourhood.

Edit: For context I should add that my father is American and was always extremely popular, especially with older friends and neighbours. He’s friendly and helpful and every now and then there would be a John that got his nose out of joint about him.

Happyjoe · 19/04/2026 00:48

I don't think you'll ever know 100% if it's because you're 'foreigners' but it does sound like you have a total arsehole as a neighbour. Sadly these blighters are everywhere.. sigh. My parents had them when they moved West from S.East and were never accepted in 20 years!

Glad you've a camera. Am not sure what you mean by attach a water pipe to a party wall? Water pipes tend to go through your own wall, not through a shared wall? Structural engineer prob good anyway and some will charge by the hour which is cheaper when looking at a quick job.

grinandslothit · 19/04/2026 00:52

This is exactly why I don't talk to neighbours other than a quick nod or hello and that's it
Too much drama

PerkingFaintly · 19/04/2026 01:02

Shitmonger · 19/04/2026 00:41

I wonder if John is a bit miffed or threatened by your husband? It sounds like he is well-liked and has been helpful to the neighbours, which is enough to set John off if he views it as “his” neighbourhood.

Edit: For context I should add that my father is American and was always extremely popular, especially with older friends and neighbours. He’s friendly and helpful and every now and then there would be a John that got his nose out of joint about him.

Edited

Yes, I'm getting these vibes about John too.

If he basks in the admiration and dependency from his little flock, he may feel that independent, helpful incomers are competition.

He may well have been a twat to all such incomers came from, but you being actual Genuine Foreigners might be tipping him over the edge.

What a complete PITA.

ilovesooty · 19/04/2026 01:11

grinandslothit · 19/04/2026 00:52

This is exactly why I don't talk to neighbours other than a quick nod or hello and that's it
Too much drama

What a shame. Mine have been really helpful in the past couple of weeks since I had surgery. We're not in and out of each other's houses and there's no "drama" though.

I think it's nice to at least be on friendly terms. The OP's neighbours do sound horrible though.

Mummy2mybear · 19/04/2026 01:47

grinandslothit · 19/04/2026 00:52

This is exactly why I don't talk to neighbours other than a quick nod or hello and that's it
Too much drama

I agree with this comment, life is busy enough without all of this unessasary drama if I was you I would totally stay away from 'John' and his followers avoid them they will get the message. Concentrate on what matters x

Thefingerofblame · 19/04/2026 02:04

@BloodyForeignerNeighbour John is the problem. He has probably railroaded your sweet old neighbour to believe you have caused the damage that she may have initially brought to John’s attention. He’s convinced her that you need to pay.

Possibly John maybe be discriminative to non-British.

As for the others only speaking to your DH and not you, could it just be an accent thing? Not right, but as they’re old maybe they just can understand him a little clearer.

nomas · 19/04/2026 02:28

Our issue is with the shocking hostility and invasion of our privacy.

I feel very put out that this really normally quite proper and nice old lady who gave our kids Easter eggs a week before and asked us to roll out her rubbish bins on collection day felt emboldened to stride right into our carport when we were away without asking permission

I think you and your neighbour are both overreacting. It’s not always easy for elderly people to speak up about an issue so whilst a chat would have been better, they are entitled to send a letter.

And you talking about ‘fuming ’ at their ‘shocking hostility’ is a bit ofd too. Isn’t a car port next to your front door? (Like the attached pic)? It’s not like they came in to your back garden to have a look.

AIBU to think our neighbours are singling us out as foreigners?
Jemminy · 19/04/2026 02:31

Missing the point slightly but do you have a water pipe that comes from your property and might be damaging your neighbour's property? If so you do need to tackle it. The fact it's 10 years old and predates you buying the house doesn't stop it being your problem to fix - if, of course, it is your pipe and and it is running onto your neighbour's property. If it isn't or doesn't and it s completely fabricated then it will be easier - or at least cheaper - to deal with.

Of course they should have knocked and spoken to you rather than skulking around on your property and then sending a nasty letter. But far more than pondering whether they are being xenophobic or not you need to address the current accusation first, while pushing back hard on the trespass. Sometimes people start with a written letter because they are avoiding the face to face conversation. It's not ideal but it doesn't always come from a place of malice.

I'm a bit worried you'll take this that I am an apologist for xenophobia and I'm really not.

Re the being nice then turning on you - I believe you, it's a thing. Catherine Tate had a granny like that in her sketch show many years ago. But I bet you can feel yourselves doing a similar sort of thing - being outwardly nicer to John than you feel you want to be while secretly getting increasingly cross and short fused with him. Don't overthink that side of it. You're cross and feel hounded, you're rightfully angry because they have been stomping on your property, but if there is any question that your water might be damaging your neighbour's property you do need to look into it.

hattie43 · 19/04/2026 06:51

I don’t think you’re being harassed because of your origins I just think you’re really unlucky to have landed on a street of busybodies with too much time on their hands .

SparklyGlitterballs · 19/04/2026 07:06

If your houses are all detached, how is there a party wall? A detached house shouldn't have anything attached to a neighbours house, surely?

OrwellianTimes · 19/04/2026 07:13

Merseymum1980 · 18/04/2026 23:49

Speak to a solicitor about harrasment

Last resort - you don’t want a neighbour dispute on your property. It’ll make it hard to sell.

Quine0nline · 19/04/2026 07:15

Repost without saying eastern European or White American. You'll get a lot more support. Just sayin'

WizdomE · 19/04/2026 07:16

Talk to you neighbour about her possible issue, but also make it clear that just coming onto your property is actually trespass, which is why you have cameras and request that she does not do it again (if it does happen again issue a letter). Keep your distance from John, he is an interfering busy body and someone you should exclude from engaging with.

iamnotalemon · 19/04/2026 07:16

Unfortunately some areas and people are like this. Very small minded, with nothing better to do.

AudiobookListener · 19/04/2026 07:18

It's quite possible that your neighbour is entitled to gain access to the party wall for maintenance purposes. Especially newer houses often have a clause in the deeds. And if something on your property is damaging something on your neighbours, you may well be liable, even if it predates you moving in. So I suggest not taking this personally and speak to a solicitor. Not about harassment, but about whether you have a liability or not. In any case your neighbour is likely to have a right of access to make repairs.