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AIBU to think our neighbours are singling us out as foreigners?

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BloodyForeignerNeighbour · 18/04/2026 23:45

Me and my husband have been living in the UK for more than 10 years. I am Eastern European and he is (white) American. We have left London and bought a house in the south east a few years ago. Back in London we used to live on a nice street of terraces with many international families. We never felt out of place there and made an effort to be friendly with our neighbours.

The current house is in a little close of about 10 detached houses and bungalows. Most owners are very elderly (we didn't know it before we moved). Naturally we don't have very much in common with them but we are nice and polite. I have noticed that a few of our new neighbours prefer to talk to my husband, even though I am normally the more social one, and work from home way more than him. Our next door neighbour didn't even know my name until last year. I have a gut feeling that she is uncomfortable to address me, but she got along quite well with my husband who helped her with a few things.

The close is ruled by John, a middle aged ex-forces man in one of the bungalows. He is a type I would not be surprised to find supervising a Raise the Colours operation on one of the roundabouts on the weekends, not that I actually spotted him, so this stereotype might be on me. When there is a problem, like a sewage blockage or an unfamiliar car parked in the close the elderly neighbours ask John for help. He is a bit like a proud rooster protecting his flock of hapless frail hens.

John sends us Christmas cards, but he dislikes us. We replaced a rotten down trellis in our front garden with a slightly bigger one when we moved in and John complained to the council that the new trellis destroys the character of the close (this was disclosed by another neighbour). He has complained to the dog warden that our dog is straying when he accidentally got out of the door and hung around the entrance to get back in. We never confronted him directly about these things because they came to nothing. We hoped he will eventually calm down on his own.

Two weeks ago, when away for Easter we have spotted John and our next door neighbour (an 85 year old widow who rarely leaves her house) through our ring camera, standing in our carport and inspecting the party wall, in animated conversation. We asked what's the matter and John told us that "we are ok, have nothing to worry about". They quickly walked away.

A few days later we received a very officially worded formal letter accusing us of attaching a water pipe to the party wall without asking permission, which has caused cracks in the neighbours house. We were requested to pay for damages and arrange for structural inspection within strict timelines.

We did not attach anything, the pipe was there for the last 10 years, and it is easy to prove if it came to it. Our issue is with the shocking hostility and invasion of our privacy.

I feel very put out that this really normally quite proper and nice old lady who gave our kids Easter eggs a week before and asked us to roll out her rubbish bins on collection day felt emboldened to stride right into our carport when we were away without asking permission and then accuse us out of the blue of tampering with her wall, without even attempting to talk to us first. I cannot imagine how she would react if I was doing it in her carport. It destroyed my Friday morning and I am fuming.

AIBU to feel like we are being singled out and targeted (presumably as foreigners) or is this a typical curtain twitching and low level neighbour to neighbour aggression? And if the former what can we do?

OP posts:
Ponoka7 · 19/04/2026 10:43

PerkingFaintly · 19/04/2026 08:37

So being in the British military makes you a racist? Is the UK not allowed to have a military?

Do you want some liniment for the neck injury you must have got from that stretch, @Ponoka7 ?

Not a stretch at all. Based on nothing but him being in the military and helping elderly neighbours, is the OP branding him as a racist. Why was he being ex military relevant?

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 19/04/2026 10:51

Nothing you say suggests it’s because you are not from the UK. They just don’t like you .

Charlize43 · 19/04/2026 11:00

It's not London, where you can wear an oversized trellis to the Tate Modern and no one so much as bats an eyelid.

Some of these places haven't even seen women before.

Have you thought of moving back? I can't imagine not living in London.

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 19/04/2026 11:01

Charlize43 · 19/04/2026 11:00

It's not London, where you can wear an oversized trellis to the Tate Modern and no one so much as bats an eyelid.

Some of these places haven't even seen women before.

Have you thought of moving back? I can't imagine not living in London.

Lots of people cope.

Charlize43 · 19/04/2026 11:05

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 19/04/2026 11:01

Lots of people cope.

Yes, but a life with sheep is not really living though, is it?

meganorks · 19/04/2026 11:26

YANBU to be pissed off. I'm not sure it is because you are foreigners because I have heard of similar things with very white, English folks. It is usually because you are 'new' and therefore need an education on how thibgs work round here and who's in charge. Not sure what you do about it. But I think the sort of set up you describe - small close with a few houses is the most notorious for this sort of bullshit.

Regarding the specific pipe issue, I'd just reply to say you've made no adjustments and will not be paying out any money. And if you get them on camera again maybe file a report for trespassing or something.

totallyinshock · 19/04/2026 11:28

Blushingm · 19/04/2026 10:32

Older people do write letters and it sounds like she wanted it to be formal. You sound an angry person - perhaps she feels intimidated by you?

I don’t think she sounds anywhere near as angry as she should. Her neighbours went onto her property while she was abroad and wanted to have a look around. If it’s true that it was causing damage, then they have had ample opportunity while she was home.

You also have to ask why John was involved at all.

Rachelshair · 19/04/2026 11:31

I feel very lucky reading this, the older generation on my street have been absolutely lovely to us since we moved in, building work and all. Old doesn't automatically mean nasty and unwelcoming, or racist.
Your female neighbour sounds nice up to now OP. Can you deal with her directly and try to resolve things informally? Maybe she's prone to anxiety and has been influenced by John.
Has she been targeted by a law firm looking for a no win no fee claim for spurious property damage? I've read about it, but subsidence seems to be what they focus on. It does seem very heavy handed, and why the urgency when it's been there since she moved in. It could be her gutters or internal pipework causing the issue, if it's definitely water damage and not settlement cracks.

Blushingm · 19/04/2026 11:33

totallyinshock · 19/04/2026 11:28

I don’t think she sounds anywhere near as angry as she should. Her neighbours went onto her property while she was abroad and wanted to have a look around. If it’s true that it was causing damage, then they have had ample opportunity while she was home.

You also have to ask why John was involved at all.

They walked up the driveway to look at the other side of a wall - they didn’t go rummaging through the shed or looking for valuables in the house!

totallyinshock · 19/04/2026 11:34

Blushingm · 19/04/2026 11:33

They walked up the driveway to look at the other side of a wall - they didn’t go rummaging through the shed or looking for valuables in the house!

So where do we draw the line as to what is an acceptable level of trespass? They had no right to be on her property without permission.

nomas · 19/04/2026 11:37

BloodyForeignerNeighbour · 19/04/2026 10:17

Thanks for all the responses! They made me feel better.

Just to clarify, there is no moisture damage. The neighbour claims we sneakily drilled into her wall to connect a surround for a garden hose/pipe and that drilling caused cracks in her wall. But the surround and the pipe has been there for at least 10 years, before she herself bought her house (which by the way was only 2 years earlier than me - she moved over herself to live closer to her kids. I wish she consulted them and not John!) So there is really no physical issue for which we could be actually liable, luckily. The problem is the attitude.

I would have no problem whatsoever with her coming over to inspect the wall if there was an unexpected issue while I am away, but I would expect her to contact me before/straight after and state her concerns (she has my number! and used it in the past!), especially since she knows I saw her via my ring camera. Instead she choose to write me a mean officious letter, with a header, a date and her full name...it is just so rude and also the claim is based on such improbable assumptions!

If you’re detached houses, why is your ‘surround for a garden hose/pipe and that drilling caused cracks in her wall’?

It’s not rude to send a letter. You are determined to make her a villain.

loislovesstewie · 19/04/2026 11:39

We need a diagram! The only way I can think it would cause damage is if the boundary wall is connected to the next door house.

Blushingm · 19/04/2026 11:43

totallyinshock · 19/04/2026 11:34

So where do we draw the line as to what is an acceptable level of trespass? They had no right to be on her property without permission.

They were looking at the other side of their own wall! Is the post man trespassing? Or the Amazon delivery driver?

They didn’t open doors, trample or cause damage. They didn’t invade any privacy. It would be incredibly petty to dispute this

nomas · 19/04/2026 11:44

Blushingm · 19/04/2026 11:43

They were looking at the other side of their own wall! Is the post man trespassing? Or the Amazon delivery driver?

They didn’t open doors, trample or cause damage. They didn’t invade any privacy. It would be incredibly petty to dispute this

Technically it’s trespassing but I agree, it’s incredibly petty to address it as such.

OP doesn’t seem concerned about allaying her neighbour’s concerns.

SadBoys · 19/04/2026 11:50

Charlize43 · 19/04/2026 11:00

It's not London, where you can wear an oversized trellis to the Tate Modern and no one so much as bats an eyelid.

Some of these places haven't even seen women before.

Have you thought of moving back? I can't imagine not living in London.

I certainly realised when I moved out of London that DH and I were the only foreigners in the village (there had apparently been a Canadian who’d married in, but she divorced and left), and, while we’re both white, our nationality was considered ‘not quite nice’.

anyolddinosaur · 19/04/2026 11:52

OP has not posted a diagram. What is a connection for a garden hosepipe doing on someone else's wall? Only thing I can imagine is a hose reel and that should never have been attached to someone else's property. So - if you are not making this up because you are bored where is the diagram and the picture of the offending article plus the cracks?

I'm not a builder but I could probably make a fair stab at saying if it caused the damage and maybe even how long it's really been there.

Why would OP's neighbour make up a story about damage ?

DripDripAprilshower · 19/04/2026 11:56

We never confronted him directly about these things

Start!

And don’t go easy on the old dear either.

ginasevern · 19/04/2026 12:07

@BloodyForeignerNeighbour I think the main problem is that you've landed in a retirement enclave where people have a lot of time on their hands and their main entertainment is curtain twitching. They can be pretty frosty with new comers, especially if they're much younger. I'm not completely ruling out racism but I think they feel you don't belong for other reasons too. I would consider moving if I was you OP.

Just to add, my comment isn't ageist. I'm nearly 70 myself.

Laurmolonlabe · 19/04/2026 12:11

Having neighbours who don't like you is a thing whatever nationality you are.
People are generally quite accepting in the UK but you can't really complain if there is some resentment, because you are not home grown.
I am English and have lived in England all my life but when I was younger the family moved from the town in one part of the country to a village in another. We were never accepted and several low level campaigns were launched.
It sounds to me like your neighbour is a failed alpha male who enjoys this sort of harrassment- that can happen anywhere it's a human thing.

totallyinshock · 19/04/2026 12:34

Blushingm · 19/04/2026 11:43

They were looking at the other side of their own wall! Is the post man trespassing? Or the Amazon delivery driver?

They didn’t open doors, trample or cause damage. They didn’t invade any privacy. It would be incredibly petty to dispute this

The postman and Amazon delivery driver have a reason to be on the property.

It’s not okay to just go and walk on your neighbour’s property.

ButterYellowHair · 19/04/2026 12:56

totallyinshock · 19/04/2026 12:34

The postman and Amazon delivery driver have a reason to be on the property.

It’s not okay to just go and walk on your neighbour’s property.

Its a civil matter though not criminal.

ButterYellowHair · 19/04/2026 12:58

ginasevern · 19/04/2026 12:07

@BloodyForeignerNeighbour I think the main problem is that you've landed in a retirement enclave where people have a lot of time on their hands and their main entertainment is curtain twitching. They can be pretty frosty with new comers, especially if they're much younger. I'm not completely ruling out racism but I think they feel you don't belong for other reasons too. I would consider moving if I was you OP.

Just to add, my comment isn't ageist. I'm nearly 70 myself.

This. My elderly neighbour came round to tell me there was a shifty man hanging around with suitcases near my house while I was away. Had to inform him that yes that was my friend who had moved into the house for a year… he’s also told me about the shifty woman (my mum), shifty car (my FIL) and shifty woman who looked to be casing the joint (my best friend trying to scare the shit out of me).

Nosy people love getting in everybody’s business. I admit the last one WAS acting shifty and I gave him permission to yell at her in future 😏 sweet revenge

Catladywithacat · 19/04/2026 13:07

anyolddinosaur · 19/04/2026 10:02

You sound like really hard work and ageist. You have decided John is a racist with no evidence, complain about your neighbour trying to see what is causing damage to her property and have no interest in fixing it. And you object to John helping his neighbours because you've taken a dislike to him. Minor complaints about a dog you allowed to escape and a trellis are small stuff.

If there is damage to a neighbours property because of a pipe on your property you need to investigate that. What does the pipe do and have you got anyone to look at whether it is leaking? You cant "refute a claim" you havent investigated. We need a diagram to understand where the pipe is and why they were on your property.

The pipe was there before they moved in not her fault

Catladywithacat · 19/04/2026 13:09

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 19/04/2026 10:51

Nothing you say suggests it’s because you are not from the UK. They just don’t like you .

This is the problem with certain neighbours or people in general. You’re allowed to not like others, but this is a you problem and you’re not allowed to harass others because you dislike them

loislovesstewie · 19/04/2026 13:09

Catladywithacat · 19/04/2026 13:07

The pipe was there before they moved in not her fault

That doesn't matter, if she is responsible for a pipe on her property , it's leaking and causes problems for a neighbouring property, it's her job to sort it. Or the neighbour claims on her insurance and the company claims the money back. The latter is likely to cost more.