To suspect police are worried about vigilantes - Epsom attack

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I live relatively close to Epsom and so this appalling assault is all over my news feeds and social media.

BBC News - Town left in shock by appalling rape outside church
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8dl5yevjg9o

The police have asked for witnesses but no descriptions have been given. Cue lots of very disturbing posts and comments from people who very clearly think these men are not white.

I can think of half a dozen scenarios where this is not being disclosed but, based on the comments, I think it all comes down to fears that local communities will take it on themselves to "apprehend" anyone who even vaguely looks like the perpetrators? And while the comments I am seeing are mostly white people being disgusting in their assumptions about brown and black people, i can imagine police would he equally concerned if, for example, the woman was Asian or Black and her attackers were white.

Is this where we are at? Where people make horrible racist assumptions and/or where police have to worry about how they will protect the broader community if they give any details of criminals?

Yeah this is bullshit. I live in Epsom, it's super white, there are no gangs of black/brown men (why don't you just admit who you're talking about) running amok in the streets. This is a very white area. The crime I've witnessed here has been perpetrated by a white underclass (as correctly identified by a previous poster), and we did have a big problem with flags in the summer.

I grew up in Mitcham and lived previously in Tooting (you'll have a heart attack when you see the demographic data for there!!). We moved here because we couldn't afford to buy. It's a safe town with a large student/commuter population.

Because we don’t get a choice about living with our own men in this country. We do get a choice about letting in unvetted men from societies that treat women and children appallingly.

A shit fuck ton of human rights lawyers, The European Court of Hunan Rights and everyone who is left wing globally.

@HopeP thank you that was exactly it ! How they came to that outcome I have no idea for gods sake

And these white men who get so upset when they think an Asian man (usually is what they think) is responsible of any sexual offence are the first who also say-

“what about all these false rape allegations? Who’s protecting the mens?”

”what was she wearing?” “Was she drunk?”

“it’s only her word against his”

when they imagine a white man in the dock

Because basically they don’t care about women or women’s consent. They care about ownership of women. By white men.

I think we have a choice about the laws that govern said men in our country though? And the legal system?

So we should be able to make a similar amount of noise about all rapists.

The police have said, a few hours ago, that they will release fuller details of the assailants as soon as possible.

https://www.surrey.police.uk/news/surrey/news/2026/04---april/update-following-a-report-of-a-rape-in-epsom/

I have a feeling that falls under ‘whataboutery’. By having the rights of the perpetrators forefront in your mind you are unwittingly minimising the impact on the victim. I don’t think is your intention, but unfortunately it’s how it comes across. Also calling very worried and angry people ‘racists’ is unhelpful.

Call me cynical but I don't think the men "protesting" last night give a shit about violence against women and girls. If they do, why aren't they out on the streets protesting more often?

I agree however this country is a tinderblock waiting to go off and all the authorities seem to be doing is pouring more fuel on it instead of actually doing something about it like deporting every single small boat crosser, but labour scrapped that law the moment they came into power.
The sad fact is unless the government get a grip on things soon there will be mass violence against immigrants because people can and will only take so much before they act themselves and I put the blame for it directly at the door of the uk and Scottish government's

Because they don't care about women. It's to further their own racist agenda.

Have you noticed they’ve written this sentence twice within that press release;
‘we still do not have sufficient information to release the descriptions of the suspects’.

I find that very interesting.

Nobody is victim blaming the poor girl, however some posters on here do seem to be throwing their insults and anger at the protestors, rather than the actual rapists.

like deporting every single small boat crosser, but labour scrapped that law the moment they came into power

Which law was that?

No the uk and they were found not guilty even after the footage of that poor girls gang rape was played in crt

Don’t you think that why they are hoping to add Islamophobia to the Hate Crime law? If they can criminalise the ability to protest against Muslims, which is what these riots are really about, then they can lock up the protesters as opposed to have to find the perpetrators. It’s so much easier.

Forgive me for asking what might be a very stupid question. Can't she give a description? I understand she's been through a horrific ordeal, but surely she knows?

Can understand residents being worried/angry thats to be expected but it's naivety to think that this won't be exploited by those with an agenda.
They will use this young women's plight as a vehicle .
It's something the extreme far right have done for decades,National Front ,BNP,C18,and the modern equivalent shady online groups.

You have never seen young drakes attack the duck then?

You’re defecting the issue @GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing
We are choosing to allow thousands of men from countries that abuse woman. That is a choice our government has made and women and children are paying the price.
You are doing the victims a disservice by not engaging with the issue.

I’m thinking of the case in America where three boys were accused of raping a young girl and one of them put rocks in her mouth so she couldn’t scream.

How can the police not have a description?

The poor woman ☹️
Going through all that and then having to watch her town’s response to it, and the police apparent inertia.

A lot of pp’s are conflating two different issues, and I understand why.

VAWG is a major issue, regardless of race, and needs to be dealt with in its own right.

The cultures of men arriving in the country during this period of mass immigration, and how those cultures think, feel and behave towards women (and particularly ’white, western’ women) is another issue, along with how how they are being handled by the authorities in terms of housing them and managing their behaviours within our society.

Being worried about both is normal, and women shouldn’t be turning on each other at a time when the current and future safety of ourselves and our daughters is in jeopardy.

The tories brought in a bill that said nobody who enters the UK on a small boat can claim asylum i cant remember the name of the bill which passed and was scrapped by starmer in his 1st month in office along with the rowanda bill

I live in Epsom & this is the truth a hotel opposite the hospital is now for asylum seekers