Only knickers in the Co-op

[1981RickyVilla]

A teenage girl (aged 15 or 16, roughly) in front of me in the Co-op was wearing a crop-top and a pair of knickers only. Not bikini bottoms, not short shorts but cotton M & S midi style knickers. I didn’t say anything (none of my business and she probably wouldn’t have approved my sartorial choices either). If I had been her mother, seeing her before she left the house, I would have said that it looked unhygienic and wasn’t an appropriate way to go to the shops.
YABU: People of whatever age can dress how they like when they go to the Co-op.
YANBU: A mini-skirt or pair of shorts are a minimum requirement when you’re off to the shops.

I actually think u are correct with this sad to say.

I mean yes of course everyone is entitled to wear whatever they want but sometimes they should just make better choices!

Try living in a seaside town where some teenage girls arrive by train wearing a thong and tiny bikini top. They sit on the tables in the train smearing their nether regions all over them. Absolutely gross. The boys just wear shorts and nothing else.
They then parade down the High Street and go into shops wearing next to nothing on their way to the beach. Absolutely no shame nor class.

The top end, I presume!

Yeah, I saw this at the train station and I was actually quite worried - probably about 12 years old and heavily made up

Then I looked around and saw her fully dressed, friend with her phone held up...

I don't get it

Anyway

I looked at the thread title thinking "what does this remind me of?" And then realised it was only murders in the building.... but I didn't think it was going to be about this. I thought it was going to be about what they were selling.

It worries me because I think it’s part of the sexualisation and control of women’s bodies . It’s driven by social media and big tech and alogarithims. The young woman probably sees heaps on social media.. it’s normalised in her world.
I am 61 - ancient - but when I was young we went out , we shopped op shops ( before they were trendy), we looked like ourselves.
i was in my local town day music festival recently and there was 1000’s young woman who appeared to have a uniform.. striaght long hair, sleeveless tops, very short skirts and boots to mid calf. It was astounding. That’s social media’s power.

Oh come off it, surely you remember the fuss about mini skirts?

This reminds me of when I went to Scotland to stay with a friend. I got on a local train at Motherwell and two young women got on the train in bikinis. It wasn't a particularly warm day, either!

So is it the material of knickers find offensive? Bikinis bottoms are made from different material so why are bikini bottoms, what could be smaller than some other peoples choices in knickers, more acceptable?

What is about knickers peoples find offensive?

I don't think anyone find knickers offensive

I do think most people would like for actual clothes to be worn on top of the knickers in public

I can't believe I just typed that 😂

But if someone went into a job near a beach there would more than likey be people in there with bikini bottoms on so why are knickers different? so even if not near a beah why is it an actual issue

sure I wouldn't do it but what is the difference? and there are other items of clothing like really short shorts that people may not wear knickers underneath how are they hygenic?

I remember going out clubbing in a wonderbra and open jacket in the late 80s/ealy 90s 😬

So at what point do you consider that somebody is sufficiently clothed?

NGL I do really hate it if you're at the beach and somebody wanders into the shopping a bikini or whatever

i'm very much of the "no shoes, no shirt no service" mindset. And I think everyone needs to cover their bum with something more than briefs

Contain the cheeks is all I'm saying

I read it as scuzzies at first, a far better and descriptive word.

I don’t think people should walk off the beach and into a shop in just a bikini either! Put some clothes on.

Well ...

The Business Insider article's from 2023, so it's taken a while 😏

Yes, there are quite a few designer outfits for men featuring underwear as outerwear. At least Kristen Stewart had the sense to put some tights on!

Guess that's one advantage of living in Scotland, the weather and the midges.

Me, too! And my favourite dress in 1973 was transparent.

There is something to be said for "If you've got it, flaunt it". Not sorry for the flaunting years, my "it" disappeared sometime around the turn of the century.

I remember this being a thing in the early 00's but we wore them over tights. High waisted knickers over 70 denier tights. Bit more demure but a lot more Superhero-esque.

I think you're approaching it from the wrong way around, though. Owing to the nature of beaches and swimming/sunbathing, society gives a special dispensation that you can freely wear much LESS than normal on the beach.

That doesn't mean that what is allowed on the beach becomes the new basic yardstick and justifies asking why ever you need to wear any MORE in shops, on the train, in town etc.

You might as well say that, because you were allowed to get a bit tipsy, slur to your boss and dance madly at the works Christmas party, why on earth would you not be allowed to do the same day to day?!

Isn't it a bit like the emperor's new clothes, though? If you're designing shorts so they look like knickers, you're clearly hoping to pass them off as knickers. Even if you get away with it on the technicality that they aren't actually knickers.

Or even if they basically are knickers, but if you bluster enough that they're actually shorts and so they're fine, and gaslight people by suggesting that they're stupid, not au fait with fashion, past it or whatever if they see knickers and identify them as such.

Incidentally, when you say that it's not your business what a stranger chooses to wear in Tesco, would you really have no issue with it if a big bloke turned up in nothing but a pair of pants the same size as Speedos (or even an actual pair of Speedos) and insisted that, if it's OK on the beach, why should he be body-shamed just because he isn't on the beach?

How are these people not cold?

I hate seeing the teenagers coming out of school and walking home wearing totally ridiculous length shorts skirts.

They look 'slutty' and I'm appalled that their parents allow them to go out looking like they're on the game.

When I was at school we used to think it daring deliberately hitching our skirts up to just above the knee!

Funny, that's what my mum said about my friends & me in 1969 😂 (We were cold, but would NEVER have admitted it to our mums!)

My guess is the teenagers change after they leave the house.