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Can we just, for the first 2–3 weeks after birth, put new mums first?

172 replies

Bringbackbuffy · 11/04/2026 17:23

I keep seeing posts where mums, MILs, or parents in general (and I do want to stress I’m not trying to be sexist, it just often seems to come up more on the maternal side of families) feel entitled to immediate access to a newborn, often at exactly the time the mother is recovering from birth, sleep-deprived, hormonally wiped, and trying to establish feeding and bonding.

And I do get it: nobody is entitled to help, and “help” isn’t automatic. But what’s often framed as help can realistically be quite self-serving. The wider family is focused on access, excitement, or status, for the visitor rather than the actual needs of the mother and baby and dresses up self issued invitations and offers of support.

From a purely physical and medical point of view, those early weeks are not a casual time. NHS guidance is clear that the first 6 weeks postpartum involve significant recovery whether vaginal birth or C-section. Layer on top of that the fact that chronic sleep deprivation is strongly associated with increased anxiety, low mood, impaired decision-making, and higher risk of postnatal depression. In other words, this is a period where cognitive and emotional load is already stretched to capacity.

Yet just in the last few days here we have seen posts and threads where:

  • grandparents arriving within an hour of mum and baby getting home
  • families expecting immediate updates the moment labour starts, then using that information to justappear
  • pressure to accommodate visitors days after birth
  • new mums having to actively manage information flow about when they have gone into labour or are going home just to get some privacy and prevent boundary crossings
That last one really stands out to me. The idea that someone who is physically recovering, learning to feed a newborn, and functioning on broken sleep should also be responsible for carefully managing other adults’ expectations, emotions, and potential offence just feels fundamentally imbalanced. I saw a post recently where a mum didn’t want her own mother staying in the early weeks because she knew it would increase stress. One suggestion was essentially “just invite her for two weeks later so she doesn’t feel left out.” But why is it always on the new mum to reframe, reschedule, soften, and emotionally manage everyone else’s feelings? Why is that the default expectation at exactly the moment she is least resourced to do it?

It also feels like part of a wider pattern where daughters and women are still expected to be “kind”, accommodating, and conflict-avoiding even in situations where they are recovering from a major medical event. We don’t usually expect that level of emotional labour from someone recovering from surgery or illness, but it somehow persists around birth.

Of course family members are excited. That’s completely understandable. But excitement doesn’t override the reality that this is a short, medically and emotionally intense recovery window where the mother and babyneeds should come first.

Is it really so unreasonable to suggest that for just a few weeks, the default should be mum and baby first? And if people genuinely want to help, why not ask what would actually be helpful, rather than dressing up presence and visits as support?

Because right now it seems like the emotional labour of protecting boundaries is being placed on the person least able to carry it. And there are always a few commenters trying to excuse the inexcusable as -they are just excited.

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TheNinkyNonkyIsATardis · 11/04/2026 17:57

I'm with you.

I especially hate the phrase "PFB" when aimed at PP women. For starters, it helps no-one. Secondly, it makes a lot of evolutionary sense for a woman to feel vulnerable and protective of her newborn baby.

But lastly, if there's a time in her life a woman can be unreasonable, it's when she's just given birth.

My MIL was far from perfect, but when FIL made a mean comment as soon as he came in and I told him to piss off, she agreed with me and explained why he was wrong. It was the one thing that kept me on side amongst a lot of other "overexcited" nonsense.

I don't see why anyone could argue that "excited" should trump "vulnerable and healing". It wouldn't in any other circumstance.

Liverpool52 · 12/04/2026 14:13

Op I have a look at Gransnet every now and again and the attitude towards pregent women or new mothers is horrific. Literally like the woman no longer matters because she is nothing more than a vessel for the grandchild. One particularly awful post a few years ago by a MIL utterly outraged that her DIL wouldn't update her after every medical appointment because this was her grandchild and she was entitled to know the DIL's medical details because of that. It was proper Handmaid's Tale stuff.

Spaghettea · 12/04/2026 14:24

Yanbu. I'm twenty years on from my awful post birth visitor invasion experience and it still winds me up.

If my dc's ever have children I will aim to keep away, ask if they need anything and only visit if asked. Even if it's to drop off shopping, empty the bins and tidy up.

WhatNoRaisins · 12/04/2026 14:24

I was like death warmed up for the first month after my first birth and I really hope I'll remember how I felt if my DS goes on to father children. I can't believe the lack of empathy shown towards postpartum women.

ExtraOnions · 12/04/2026 14:30

We aren’t all the same … I couldn’t wait for family to meet DD. My brother & SIL came to the hospital, my sister was with me in the Labour room (along with DH), we called off to see MiL on the way home from hospital (and felt very lucky as our nieces were there). My sister was over for the first few days, and helped when I struggled with BF. From there we had loads of help, Mum and MiL both looked after DD when I went back to work, and used to collect her from Primary School. I never lacked baby sitters, and DD was staying over from about a year before of.

When she was older and her ASD became more obvious, we had masses of help from SiL, and wider family.

I am a great believer in “it takes a village” .. I find all the “bubble” stuff a bit twee.

MissyB1 · 12/04/2026 14:38

When my granddaughter was born I waited 3 weeks to go and visit them (they live 3 hours away), and when I did go I booked into a hotel to not be in their way, and give Dil some space. The other grandma (Dil’s mum) rushed down the motorway that day to see the baby whilst they were still in the hospital! I’m probably a bit over conscious of not stepping on toes though.

ErlingHaalandsManBun · 12/04/2026 14:39

I'm with @ExtraOnions here. It definitely is different for everyone and there is no right or wrong way. Only what is right for you.

I couldn't wait for all my family to arrive to meet my babies. Both sets of parents, my brother and our best friends all came to the hospital with my first. With the second I had her at 1.10pm and was discharged just after 6pm and we drove straight to my Mum and Dads (who were looking after our eldest) to show her and them the baby. We stayed there for an hour and had fish and chips from the chippy!! Then all 4 of us went home. My In-laws came round the next morning.

Everyone was welcome to come and see baby and we loved having visitors.

Bringbackbuffy · 12/04/2026 14:39

ExtraOnions · 12/04/2026 14:30

We aren’t all the same … I couldn’t wait for family to meet DD. My brother & SIL came to the hospital, my sister was with me in the Labour room (along with DH), we called off to see MiL on the way home from hospital (and felt very lucky as our nieces were there). My sister was over for the first few days, and helped when I struggled with BF. From there we had loads of help, Mum and MiL both looked after DD when I went back to work, and used to collect her from Primary School. I never lacked baby sitters, and DD was staying over from about a year before of.

When she was older and her ASD became more obvious, we had masses of help from SiL, and wider family.

I am a great believer in “it takes a village” .. I find all the “bubble” stuff a bit twee.

But it isn’t about bubble. It’s just about what mum wants. You wanted you sister in the labour room there, so she was. She wasn’t there for her own fun or amusement (one would assume) she was there because that’s the support you wanted.

I am not saying it should be a bubble, but it should be for two or three weeks about prioritising mum and baby. If they want support then they get support, if mum is bored at home then visit, if she is sore tired and in pain and wants space give space.

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hahabahbag · 12/04/2026 14:40

I can’t personally see the issue, I was keen on visitors with my first one 3 hours after dd2 was born (dd1 was born late evening so first visitors were obviously when I got home the next day) I was on the phone (pre social media) straight away to friends. I nipped to the supermarket the next day, i wasn’t incapacitated in any way, within a week I’d been all over. 6 weeks rest unless you have had difficulties is not needed, I flew by then!

BlueandWhitePorcelain · 12/04/2026 14:40

I had a quick natural vaginal birth with twins, and couldn’t care less, who came to visit me or wanted information. I breastfed them, which is difficult to do discreetly simultaneously and didn’t care, who was visiting at the time.

OP - do you have experience of severe mental health problems in pregnancy? DD2 was sectioned late on in her pregnancy. Both her OH and I thought she wouldn’t be able to cope with labour.

DD2 had a planned Caesarean - apart from attempting to breastfeed, her OH and I did all the other baby care round the clock between us. Visiting hours didn’t apply to DD2, on account of her mental health. The baby was too sleepy to feed, and they stayed in hospital for 10 days, due to concerns over her weight. DD2 and her OH would not have coped on their own, due to her mental health, if I hadn’t helped at his request.

GellerYeller · 12/04/2026 14:41

@Bringbackbuffy this is very well put. With any other procedure, most people would give you time to rest and recover and more privacy.

hahabahbag · 12/04/2026 14:41

@ExtraOnions completely agree

Jellybunny98 · 12/04/2026 14:41

The key thing for me is that it should be about what mum wants here, as the one recovering.

If mum wants visitors- amazing, have them!

If mum doesn’t, don’t.

Bringbackbuffy · 12/04/2026 14:43

ErlingHaalandsManBun · 12/04/2026 14:39

I'm with @ExtraOnions here. It definitely is different for everyone and there is no right or wrong way. Only what is right for you.

I couldn't wait for all my family to arrive to meet my babies. Both sets of parents, my brother and our best friends all came to the hospital with my first. With the second I had her at 1.10pm and was discharged just after 6pm and we drove straight to my Mum and Dads (who were looking after our eldest) to show her and them the baby. We stayed there for an hour and had fish and chips from the chippy!! Then all 4 of us went home. My In-laws came round the next morning.

Everyone was welcome to come and see baby and we loved having visitors.

But you got the support you wanted and needed. Parents looking after you other children, a meal on the way home from the hospital. I am not advocating space- I am advocating doing what the family needs.

my examples may have tended towards people intruding because it seems that it is often excitement that tramples on the boundaries

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phoenixrosehere · 12/04/2026 14:43

Liverpool52 · 12/04/2026 14:13

Op I have a look at Gransnet every now and again and the attitude towards pregent women or new mothers is horrific. Literally like the woman no longer matters because she is nothing more than a vessel for the grandchild. One particularly awful post a few years ago by a MIL utterly outraged that her DIL wouldn't update her after every medical appointment because this was her grandchild and she was entitled to know the DIL's medical details because of that. It was proper Handmaid's Tale stuff.

Not shocked at all. My parents asked after me and FIL bluntly interrupted MIL to ask about me because she kept asking and talking about baby and never mention me at all.

There’s also the thought process by some ‘I had a difficult time and I was fine so you should be too’, or they had no issues and can’t fathom why yours was bad/traumatic and think you must have done something wrong.

AgnesMcDoo · 12/04/2026 14:46

everyone is different and mostly you only see the horror stories online

who is going to write a thread about how lovely their families and DHs are

(Mine are btw)

Maray1967 · 12/04/2026 14:46

Jellybunny98 · 12/04/2026 14:41

The key thing for me is that it should be about what mum wants here, as the one recovering.

If mum wants visitors- amazing, have them!

If mum doesn’t, don’t.

This - it is as simple as this. It should be what the new mum needs. Her views take precedence. Certainly not her DH’s feelings of guilt about whether his mum is being excluded. And definitely not the grandparents’ expectations.

SergeantWrinkles · 12/04/2026 14:48

God I was an absolute wreck after my first 24 years ago! Couldn’t stop crying - (now ex) dh was like a rabbit in headlights and my MILe Pete’s to be waited on hand and foot. I’m with you op!

Jellybunny98 · 12/04/2026 14:49

And also it depends what “visitors” are.

People coming round because “it takes a village” absolutely I agree, bringing meals, helping out- not coming to expect to be served and hold a tiny baby though. My mum was a huge help in the newborn days with both of my babies, cooked us good healthy meals, actively helped me establish breastfeeding when I was having issues with positions etc, helped me get showered and kept on top of my meds for me in the early days after my first baby when I had 10000 pills to take thanks to some lovely birth complications, gave me and my husband the chance to actually breathe and have a quick nap rather than us both running on fumes as we’d both had 5 nights in hospital for induction/labour with very little sleep… that was what we needed. My PIL showed up the day we got home with my first baby, never asked how we were, never asked if a visit was okay, immediately asked us to sort them some lunch (yes, really), commented that I looked a “state” and needed a shower and to put some proper clothes on (yes, really), asked me to get up and leave the room while my husband was doing my injections because it made them feel uneasy (yes, really), asked to hold the baby and took a huff that they couldn’t feed baby a bottle because I was breastfeeding (yes, really)… I could go on.

Not all visitors are the same!

mbosnz · 12/04/2026 14:49

In NZ, you're booted out within 48 hours if you've had a vaginal birth. Within 48 hours after that, I was driving my mother who had come to 'help' to fucking Knitting World. After having a birth with my first born that wouldn't have been out of place in a slasher movie.

Too bloody right it should be about the mother and the baby, their wants, their needs, their comfort, being the priority. And people who have complicated relationships with their mothers should be supported to make decisions with that reality at the forefront.

phoenixrosehere · 12/04/2026 14:50

ExtraOnions · 12/04/2026 14:30

We aren’t all the same … I couldn’t wait for family to meet DD. My brother & SIL came to the hospital, my sister was with me in the Labour room (along with DH), we called off to see MiL on the way home from hospital (and felt very lucky as our nieces were there). My sister was over for the first few days, and helped when I struggled with BF. From there we had loads of help, Mum and MiL both looked after DD when I went back to work, and used to collect her from Primary School. I never lacked baby sitters, and DD was staying over from about a year before of.

When she was older and her ASD became more obvious, we had masses of help from SiL, and wider family.

I am a great believer in “it takes a village” .. I find all the “bubble” stuff a bit twee.

That’s lovely for you and as you said we are all different.

Some of us do not have a lovely village that is supportive, listens and respects decisions made.

Sometimes bubbles are made due to past behaviours of family members that one does not want to be repeated again.

Many women still recall the behaviours and treatment they receive after giving birth and just as there are plenty with lovely experiences there are many that don’t have great experiences due to family and visitors.

gingercat02 · 12/04/2026 14:52

I loved all my visitors when DS was born. In-laws came the day he was born briefly. They stayed near by in their caravan. My parents came from Spain the next day, they stayed for a week. My brother came for a day, and my BiL, SiL and their 2 children came to visit for a couple of days they stayed in a local hotel.
We had meals out a couple of times, mum cooked and tidied up. Dad cut the grass and generally helped out.
We all had a lovely time.
Everyone deals with big events differently.

Jellybunny98 · 12/04/2026 14:52

phoenixrosehere · 12/04/2026 14:50

That’s lovely for you and as you said we are all different.

Some of us do not have a lovely village that is supportive, listens and respects decisions made.

Sometimes bubbles are made due to past behaviours of family members that one does not want to be repeated again.

Many women still recall the behaviours and treatment they receive after giving birth and just as there are plenty with lovely experiences there are many that don’t have great experiences due to family and visitors.

Edited

100% this.

I honestly believe you never forget the way you are treated when you are pregnant/postpartum. I will never ever be able to thank my own mum enough for the support she gave me during that time, never. I will also never forgive or forget the way my PIL made me feel during that time, ever. We are now NC with PIL, for a whole host of other reasons, I had our second baby 5 months ago so they have never met him or asked about him and I can say hand on heart my second postpartum experience was so much more peaceful and happy without them or the worry of them.

Hallamule · 12/04/2026 14:53

Mmmm, what about the threads where expectant mums are furious because family are going on holiday a few weeks before or after (or even over) the period covered by the due date? Are you saying that that's something that new mums should get to decide? Nothing in your OP strikes me as unreasonable but I do think there's also a lot of over-reach when it comes to wanting to dictate that people must be on hand, or bring meals or just generally turn up to help.

BernardButlersBra · 12/04/2026 15:03

phoenixrosehere · 12/04/2026 14:43

Not shocked at all. My parents asked after me and FIL bluntly interrupted MIL to ask about me because she kept asking and talking about baby and never mention me at all.

There’s also the thought process by some ‘I had a difficult time and I was fine so you should be too’, or they had no issues and can’t fathom why yours was bad/traumatic and think you must have done something wrong.

This!

Plus people have a tendency to re-write history / “misremember” how things were. My mum came to visit after l had had twins, instead of helping as promised went for a nap as she was “tired”. In hindsight l should have asked her tired from what?! I’m the one who had little sleep for 3 nights, had twins and then had yet more poor sleep!