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Can we just, for the first 2–3 weeks after birth, put new mums first?

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Bringbackbuffy · 11/04/2026 17:23

I keep seeing posts where mums, MILs, or parents in general (and I do want to stress I’m not trying to be sexist, it just often seems to come up more on the maternal side of families) feel entitled to immediate access to a newborn, often at exactly the time the mother is recovering from birth, sleep-deprived, hormonally wiped, and trying to establish feeding and bonding.

And I do get it: nobody is entitled to help, and “help” isn’t automatic. But what’s often framed as help can realistically be quite self-serving. The wider family is focused on access, excitement, or status, for the visitor rather than the actual needs of the mother and baby and dresses up self issued invitations and offers of support.

From a purely physical and medical point of view, those early weeks are not a casual time. NHS guidance is clear that the first 6 weeks postpartum involve significant recovery whether vaginal birth or C-section. Layer on top of that the fact that chronic sleep deprivation is strongly associated with increased anxiety, low mood, impaired decision-making, and higher risk of postnatal depression. In other words, this is a period where cognitive and emotional load is already stretched to capacity.

Yet just in the last few days here we have seen posts and threads where:

  • grandparents arriving within an hour of mum and baby getting home
  • families expecting immediate updates the moment labour starts, then using that information to justappear
  • pressure to accommodate visitors days after birth
  • new mums having to actively manage information flow about when they have gone into labour or are going home just to get some privacy and prevent boundary crossings
That last one really stands out to me. The idea that someone who is physically recovering, learning to feed a newborn, and functioning on broken sleep should also be responsible for carefully managing other adults’ expectations, emotions, and potential offence just feels fundamentally imbalanced. I saw a post recently where a mum didn’t want her own mother staying in the early weeks because she knew it would increase stress. One suggestion was essentially “just invite her for two weeks later so she doesn’t feel left out.” But why is it always on the new mum to reframe, reschedule, soften, and emotionally manage everyone else’s feelings? Why is that the default expectation at exactly the moment she is least resourced to do it?

It also feels like part of a wider pattern where daughters and women are still expected to be “kind”, accommodating, and conflict-avoiding even in situations where they are recovering from a major medical event. We don’t usually expect that level of emotional labour from someone recovering from surgery or illness, but it somehow persists around birth.

Of course family members are excited. That’s completely understandable. But excitement doesn’t override the reality that this is a short, medically and emotionally intense recovery window where the mother and babyneeds should come first.

Is it really so unreasonable to suggest that for just a few weeks, the default should be mum and baby first? And if people genuinely want to help, why not ask what would actually be helpful, rather than dressing up presence and visits as support?

Because right now it seems like the emotional labour of protecting boundaries is being placed on the person least able to carry it. And there are always a few commenters trying to excuse the inexcusable as -they are just excited.

OP posts:
Ribbonwort · 13/04/2026 12:03

Thistooshallpsss · 13/04/2026 12:00

As the maternal grandmother I was desperate to see and hold my daughter after what proved to be a traumatic birth. There’s something visceral about your child being cut open. I practically climbed over the cot to get to her. Even second time round which was much better I wanted to hold and hug my girl. Then have a baby cuddle and welcome them to the world.
if one of my sons is lucky enough to become a father I would want to love and hug him as becoming a father can be traumatic too.
Of course I would make the tea and load the dishwasher as well.

But I'm sure you would have respected their wishes if your daughters had said 'Look, I feel wretched and don't want to see anyone for a bit while I recover and get breastfeeding established', and not taken it as some kind of deathblow to an otherwise loving relationship?

Nimonion · 13/04/2026 12:03

Liverpool52 · 12/04/2026 14:13

Op I have a look at Gransnet every now and again and the attitude towards pregent women or new mothers is horrific. Literally like the woman no longer matters because she is nothing more than a vessel for the grandchild. One particularly awful post a few years ago by a MIL utterly outraged that her DIL wouldn't update her after every medical appointment because this was her grandchild and she was entitled to know the DIL's medical details because of that. It was proper Handmaid's Tale stuff.

I do think that Doctors are the same, both pre and post birth the mothers are treated as a vessel for the baby and nothing else.

GlovedhandsCecilia · 13/04/2026 12:15

Ribbonwort · 13/04/2026 10:09

You're really reaching here. Some people seem very triggered by mothers of newborns who unapologetically put themselves first. I wanted weeks without seeing anyone because I felt like shit after a long difficult labour and an eventual CS and couldn't get the hang of breastfeeding (never did -- no supply ever emerged, despite me taking all possible advice from everyone from NCT peer support, La Leche League, GP, midwife etc) so I took it. It's had no impact whatsoever on my subsequent parenting, or on DS (now a teenager) and his cordial relationships with both our families.

Not reaching for anything. I'm just seeing what happens in families around me. Especially when they have these rules and regulations. I know my family is the opposite and that is why we don't only have willing support for childcare, we feel okay leaving them with that support because they actually know our children.
.I think sometimes look to other cultures who are inarguably doing it better than you.

Bringbackbuffy · 13/04/2026 12:15

Thistooshallpsss · 13/04/2026 12:00

As the maternal grandmother I was desperate to see and hold my daughter after what proved to be a traumatic birth. There’s something visceral about your child being cut open. I practically climbed over the cot to get to her. Even second time round which was much better I wanted to hold and hug my girl. Then have a baby cuddle and welcome them to the world.
if one of my sons is lucky enough to become a father I would want to love and hug him as becoming a father can be traumatic too.
Of course I would make the tea and load the dishwasher as well.

But surely you see however difficult it has been for you, and however visceral your reaction it has been harder for your daughter. Your need for comfort at that time doesn’t trump hers. If she wanted you there and just to have a hug from her mum then great. But it wasn’t her job to comfort and soothe you at that time. If she had wanted peace, or rest or time just with her baby would that have been ok with you? Or would you have been hurt and made her feel guilty?

OP posts:
Ribbonwort · 13/04/2026 12:19

GlovedhandsCecilia · 13/04/2026 12:15

Not reaching for anything. I'm just seeing what happens in families around me. Especially when they have these rules and regulations. I know my family is the opposite and that is why we don't only have willing support for childcare, we feel okay leaving them with that support because they actually know our children.
.I think sometimes look to other cultures who are inarguably doing it better than you.

I'm not British, don't have any particular 'rules and regulations', and wouldn't have dreamed of relying on either set of parents for regular childcare. Our child, now a teenager, has a close, loving relationship with all four grandparents, and both our big families in general. Everyone gets on well.

Thistooshallpsss · 13/04/2026 12:20

To those asking it’s hard to know what we might have done or said. I have a close but honest relationship with all my children I hope. I would always try to do what they ask or want. I might be privately hurt though.

Sunshineandoranges · 13/04/2026 12:25

Liverpool52 · 12/04/2026 14:13

Op I have a look at Gransnet every now and again and the attitude towards pregent women or new mothers is horrific. Literally like the woman no longer matters because she is nothing more than a vessel for the grandchild. One particularly awful post a few years ago by a MIL utterly outraged that her DIL wouldn't update her after every medical appointment because this was her grandchild and she was entitled to know the DIL's medical details because of that. It was proper Handmaid's Tale stuff.

This is obviously focussing on the minority. As part of the majority all I wanted when my grandchildren were born was to help the new parents in every way possible.

Nanny0gg · 13/04/2026 12:25

Usernamenotfound1 · 12/04/2026 15:50

I don’t like that new mums who choose to bf are often almost accused of selfishness and /or martyrdom.

the pressure to bottlefeed so other people can “have a go”. And refusing is an attempt to stop them bonding.

women who find breastfeeding difficult aren’t supported, they’re told they’re being selfish persevering as dad needs to bond and granny wants to feed the baby.

you can bond in other ways. You don’t need to feed another person to develop a relationship with them.

That can be managed the way my friend's DD did it - only she and her husband could feed the baby for some time.

I don't think anyone complained and it was lovely for my friend when she could feed the baby

It's not a free-for-all

Morepositivemum · 13/04/2026 12:25

Such a fine line though op, people have work -and all the everyday stuff and then you have the mum saying everyone is staying away/ took ages to meet their baby when they had asked for space, they want people to land when it suits them but they’re in a bubble where they’re off work and at home all the time, most others arent

Mischance · 13/04/2026 12:26

I practically climbed over the cot to get to her - that is very OTT and I speak as a grandmother and mother to 3 girls. Two of them had very traumatic births, but I let their partners be the main support initially and got involved when they wished, which was in fact quite soon, but I was in the background until asked.

One of my DDs was desperate for me to be at each birth, one employed a doula, and the other wanted me there after an hour or so. All different, and the partners' views were important too. I went with their flow, as I know most grandparents do - I know a lot of grandmas - they are all my friendship circle - and they have all done similar.

Thistooshallpsss · 13/04/2026 12:30

Oh don’t misunderstand it was just more important that I saw my daughter first.

Meadowfinch · 13/04/2026 12:35

My midwife was brilliant on this.

When I explained that I felt overwhelmed and edgy, and wanted to rip the arms off anyone except me or ex who came near newborn DS, she laughed and said it was completely normal, down to hormones and not unreasonable at all.

She said if you went to Longleat and picked up a baby lion cub, you would expect to be torn to pieces by its mum, and that anyone stupid enough to go near a baby human without permission, should expect the same treatment. She'd have been more worried about me if I hadn't felt like that.

Comtesse · 13/04/2026 12:40

Jellybunny98 · 12/04/2026 14:41

The key thing for me is that it should be about what mum wants here, as the one recovering.

If mum wants visitors- amazing, have them!

If mum doesn’t, don’t.

Yes this forever!

Doggydoctor · 13/04/2026 14:32

When I gave birth to my first thankfully all was well and a vaginal birth.
I wanted hospital visitors both sets of parents visited and our siblings as well.
was lovely to see them holding our child with such love.

We were home after 2 nights due to birth timing and DH started his paternity 2 week leave.
We asked for visitors to call first and we welcomed them for a short time after lunch when DH was off. Had each sets of parents and siblings once.

When DH went back to work my mum asked if she could come and help.
My mum and dad are the best, she came every week day morning at 9, retired early, I went for a shower and she looked after baby and did many chores she could see needed doing.
My dad would pop over some days bring me in any shopping we needed and cut the grass do small odd jobs DH asked and happily take baby out for a walk himself or with mum so I could nap after a particularly bad night.
She would leave my lunch in the fridge everyday.

She also batched cooked and froze tons of meals for me and DH which stocked our freezer before I gave birth.
One morning my in-laws turned up I didn’t know they were coming, I was upstairs getting changed after my shower.
I heard mum say oh lovely to see you both, please make yourselves a cuppa while I carry on ironing and please make DIL a cuppa and some toast she’s just dressing and not had her breakfast she’ll be down shortly and baby was just down and sleeping in their crib.
They usually got DH to make them a drink when previously over and assumed mum would do it too.
They never popped in again during the week as mum would have given them a job, came over at the weekend when DH was home.

My mum and dad did this for every one of their children we were so grateful for there help absolute stars the pair of them.
We all adore them and treat them regularly both in their 70’s now.

DHs parents would never think to help would prefer to be waited on.
Everyone’s different on how they want to interact after birth do what’s best for you.

winnieanddaisy · 13/04/2026 15:13

I’m retired and a grandmother to five , great grandmother to one . Two of my DGC lived 2 hrs away and born at home . DH was so excited that he drove us both there the day after the births . Neither DS or DDIL was bothered by this . We only stayed long enough to buy them a take away wand then drove home .
I was in the Labour suite with DD and her DH at her request but waited outside when she needed a section.
my other son phoned me the day after his DD was born to ask if I was going to visit . There again I only stayed for a short time and then went home . I think it’s the people that have no ideas of suitable boundaries that are the problem and need to learn a bit of common sense .

Babycatsmummy · 13/04/2026 15:32

I had my mother in law with us for quite a while ( she lives abroad) and it was an absolute nightmare. I craved my own space constantly and the continuous stream of visitors even though I’d asked for nobody within the first two weeks was exhausting.

my DS is now almost 2 and I look back to those times and it does make me think lots… where are all those visitors now he’s hard work and demands attention all the time?!

I am due my second in the coming months. MIL is due to come again however there has been a massive change in our relationship since the first as during a hormonal induced rage I did in fact tell her how I felt about her conduct during her first stay. We are quite close now and she’s been so supportive ( from afar) during this pregnancy and to be honest, I think I’ll be grateful to have her around because of DS.

I’ve made it clear to my partner things will be very different this time, if people do just turn up and it’s not convenient then they will be sent away. I’m planning on another C-section due to medical reasons so every bit of time is important for rest! Xx

RetiredGranny · 15/04/2026 13:20

Ribbonwort · 13/04/2026 10:11

Yes, but in the past, babies were taken off for long periods to a collective nursery. I wouldn't have countenanced that for a minute.

Not in the mid 1980s they weren't. Your baby was next to your bed for the time you were in hospital, in the 1970s and early 1980s maybe.

GlovedhandsCecilia · 15/04/2026 13:33

RetiredGranny · 15/04/2026 13:20

Not in the mid 1980s they weren't. Your baby was next to your bed for the time you were in hospital, in the 1970s and early 1980s maybe.

Yeah my mum had that with her first kids but after about 84, she didn't. A mum.eas given the wrong baby while she was in for her routine 10 days in the late 70s. They argued with her and said that "babies change in the first few hours and days".

ainsleysanob · 15/04/2026 13:46

I would have incredibly hurt if my family had left me alone to ‘recover’ for weeks on end. I wanted them there not for me, not for support but because I wanted them to meet their new family member not in a fortnight or a month but as soon as they physically could.

So yes, it should be about what mum (and to some degree dad) wants but not every woman wants to shut herself away, or cares whether she looks like a bag of shit in front of family or in laws and I’ll be honest, I really don’t get the want for the ‘bubble’ or ‘bringing up the drawbridge’ thing - if someone visits you and is being a nob then tell them they’re being a nob, we don’t need to fathers to advocate for us either as though we’re comatose after giving birth. Speak up. It’s not that tiring that we can’t tell people to fuck off.

phoenixrosehere · 15/04/2026 19:21

ainsleysanob · 15/04/2026 13:46

I would have incredibly hurt if my family had left me alone to ‘recover’ for weeks on end. I wanted them there not for me, not for support but because I wanted them to meet their new family member not in a fortnight or a month but as soon as they physically could.

So yes, it should be about what mum (and to some degree dad) wants but not every woman wants to shut herself away, or cares whether she looks like a bag of shit in front of family or in laws and I’ll be honest, I really don’t get the want for the ‘bubble’ or ‘bringing up the drawbridge’ thing - if someone visits you and is being a nob then tell them they’re being a nob, we don’t need to fathers to advocate for us either as though we’re comatose after giving birth. Speak up. It’s not that tiring that we can’t tell people to fuck off.

Where did OP say or make out that every woman wants to be shut away?

Well done you for being able to tell people to f-k off but like you pointed out not every woman wants to be shut away AND not every woman feels able to tell people to f-k off for a myriad reasons, exhaustion, trauma, not wanting to alienate family members, be ridiculed etc.

As plenty have pointed out, not every woman will make the same choices, feel the same way, have the same circumstances, have lovely family members, etc and it is ok for them to do what is best for them, whether that is having family the first day, waiting, a week, or two weeks.

My own mum didn’t meet DC1 til he was 6 weeks because that was the soonest she could get off work and fly over. Didn’t stop her from bonding with him. My dad didn’t meet him until he was 11 months due to his health and that didn’t stop him from bonding either. DC2 was 2 weeks when he met my mum, 5 months old when he met my dad. DD was the first grandchild they met her on day 2 and that was only because they were doing their usual October term visit and I had gone over.

DCs are 11, 8, and 2 and have a wonderful relationship with my parents despite them living 4,000 miles away. Them not being there right away for DC1 and DC2 didn’t stop them from bonding. They put the work in by video calling every week since they were born.

Bunnycat101 · 21/04/2026 15:37

Thing is- it’s really not that hard to ask the mother what she wants and what she’s ready for and adapt depending on how the birth goes. If mum has had a major PPH and can’t sit down without it hurting there’s a good chance she might not be feeling that good. If she’s had an easy birth, feedings going well etc, there’s a good chance she’ll be more up for visitors. This stuff isn’t rocket science really.

Hankunamatata · 21/04/2026 15:43

Perhaps we were lucky. All out visitors kept their visits short.
We were happy to have grandparents over when we got home especially when mil appeared with cake!

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