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Can we just, for the first 2–3 weeks after birth, put new mums first?

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Bringbackbuffy · 11/04/2026 17:23

I keep seeing posts where mums, MILs, or parents in general (and I do want to stress I’m not trying to be sexist, it just often seems to come up more on the maternal side of families) feel entitled to immediate access to a newborn, often at exactly the time the mother is recovering from birth, sleep-deprived, hormonally wiped, and trying to establish feeding and bonding.

And I do get it: nobody is entitled to help, and “help” isn’t automatic. But what’s often framed as help can realistically be quite self-serving. The wider family is focused on access, excitement, or status, for the visitor rather than the actual needs of the mother and baby and dresses up self issued invitations and offers of support.

From a purely physical and medical point of view, those early weeks are not a casual time. NHS guidance is clear that the first 6 weeks postpartum involve significant recovery whether vaginal birth or C-section. Layer on top of that the fact that chronic sleep deprivation is strongly associated with increased anxiety, low mood, impaired decision-making, and higher risk of postnatal depression. In other words, this is a period where cognitive and emotional load is already stretched to capacity.

Yet just in the last few days here we have seen posts and threads where:

  • grandparents arriving within an hour of mum and baby getting home
  • families expecting immediate updates the moment labour starts, then using that information to justappear
  • pressure to accommodate visitors days after birth
  • new mums having to actively manage information flow about when they have gone into labour or are going home just to get some privacy and prevent boundary crossings
That last one really stands out to me. The idea that someone who is physically recovering, learning to feed a newborn, and functioning on broken sleep should also be responsible for carefully managing other adults’ expectations, emotions, and potential offence just feels fundamentally imbalanced. I saw a post recently where a mum didn’t want her own mother staying in the early weeks because she knew it would increase stress. One suggestion was essentially “just invite her for two weeks later so she doesn’t feel left out.” But why is it always on the new mum to reframe, reschedule, soften, and emotionally manage everyone else’s feelings? Why is that the default expectation at exactly the moment she is least resourced to do it?

It also feels like part of a wider pattern where daughters and women are still expected to be “kind”, accommodating, and conflict-avoiding even in situations where they are recovering from a major medical event. We don’t usually expect that level of emotional labour from someone recovering from surgery or illness, but it somehow persists around birth.

Of course family members are excited. That’s completely understandable. But excitement doesn’t override the reality that this is a short, medically and emotionally intense recovery window where the mother and babyneeds should come first.

Is it really so unreasonable to suggest that for just a few weeks, the default should be mum and baby first? And if people genuinely want to help, why not ask what would actually be helpful, rather than dressing up presence and visits as support?

Because right now it seems like the emotional labour of protecting boundaries is being placed on the person least able to carry it. And there are always a few commenters trying to excuse the inexcusable as -they are just excited.

OP posts:
cucumber4745 · 12/04/2026 18:15

Totally agree. I am expecting and not very close with my family. They took it better than expected and my mother offered that they come a week or so before my due date so they can help as the first few weeks are the hardest. Ummm they would need to come from abroad. I have to arrange the flights, airport transfers, picking them up et. My father needs care himself. Last thing I need is having them home when I am just out with my first born. I am still finding the courage to tell them I want at least a month alone with the baby so I don’t have to emotionally manage my father and his needs as well. It is too much

SarahAndQuack · 12/04/2026 18:48

I agree we need to put new mums first - whether that's offering help, or standing back, or some combination; whatever.

I do think on MN it is tricky because inevitably, we see little snapshots in people's posts. I notice the people who reply with things like 'oh, but you'll want your mum' or 'but when you really need someone your mum will be there'.

Those people are assuming that pretty much everyone has the same experience of being occasionally - or even frequently! - irritated by their mother, but knowing deep down mum has her heart in the right place and will, when needed, be a real help. It's not just MN, either - someone recently told me 'you know, when you actually have a baby, you'll really want your mum'.

I am 41 years old; I'm all grown up ... and I do want my mum. More since I've been pregnant. I'm full of hormones and sometimes all I want is my mum to come along and give me a big hug and make it all ok. So I get that; we are probably programmed to want our mums at this time.

The thing is, my mum isn't that lovely, 'can be really irritating but goodness I was glad of her when the chips were down' type. And sadly, she never will be. Being a mum doesn't make someone magically become a wonderful person; some people are just bad at it.

But it's really hard to tell that from one thread, in the same way that it's often really hard to tell whether someone is describing a terrible, abusive husband or a man who's basically decent but fucked up this time, or a baby who is really, really difficult to cope with versus one who is going through a rough patch right now. Or any other situation like that.

elliejjtiny · 12/04/2026 20:01

I think it's lovely to have lots of visitors if they are kind and helpful but so many people aren't. I stayed in hospital for over a week after having my youngest and as most people only stayed for a day or 2 I saw loads of different mums and their visitors. I would say more than half were awful. People making rude comments about other patients, out of control older kids, pervy grandads peering round curtains. More than one grandma more concerned about her son than about her dil who had just had a traumatic birth.

I loved having visitors who were kind and helpful. I've got a lovely photo of my friend's then toddler proudly cuddling newborn ds3. They are 17 and 15 now and ds3 still sleeps with the cuddly toy she chose for him when he was born. But there were times when people would put their own wants over my baby's needs. Ds1 in particular would want to be either sleeping or on my boob as a newborn so there would be complaining from people who wanted to hold him and people were reluctant to give him back to me so I could feed him. For the first day or so after my vaginal births I was on top of the world but on day 2 onwards I was knackered and just wanted to sleep when the baby did which seemed to be for no longer than 40 minutes at the most.

TheBlueKoala · 12/04/2026 20:06

Seems like many posters don't understand what @Bringbackbuffy has said:
Respect the mum's wishes whatever they might be (visits or no visits).
So no need to say "Well, I loved having visitors.." because then all us fine. But how would you have felt if you didn't want visitors and family imposed on you?

LindorDoubleChoc · 12/04/2026 20:12

Testing to see - Is it now a bannable offence to say that this op reads like it wasn't written by a human?

Usernamenotfound1 · 12/04/2026 20:20

SarahAndQuack · 12/04/2026 18:48

I agree we need to put new mums first - whether that's offering help, or standing back, or some combination; whatever.

I do think on MN it is tricky because inevitably, we see little snapshots in people's posts. I notice the people who reply with things like 'oh, but you'll want your mum' or 'but when you really need someone your mum will be there'.

Those people are assuming that pretty much everyone has the same experience of being occasionally - or even frequently! - irritated by their mother, but knowing deep down mum has her heart in the right place and will, when needed, be a real help. It's not just MN, either - someone recently told me 'you know, when you actually have a baby, you'll really want your mum'.

I am 41 years old; I'm all grown up ... and I do want my mum. More since I've been pregnant. I'm full of hormones and sometimes all I want is my mum to come along and give me a big hug and make it all ok. So I get that; we are probably programmed to want our mums at this time.

The thing is, my mum isn't that lovely, 'can be really irritating but goodness I was glad of her when the chips were down' type. And sadly, she never will be. Being a mum doesn't make someone magically become a wonderful person; some people are just bad at it.

But it's really hard to tell that from one thread, in the same way that it's often really hard to tell whether someone is describing a terrible, abusive husband or a man who's basically decent but fucked up this time, or a baby who is really, really difficult to cope with versus one who is going through a rough patch right now. Or any other situation like that.

I absolutely did not want my mum 😂. She’s hard work at the best of times.

as expected she couldn’t understand why I didn’t want to go shopping with her when the baby was weeks old. She didn’t understand why I “looked terrible” hadn’t lost the baby weight in days, and why I insisted on “unhygienic” breastfeeding, when I could just bottle feed. Then I’d only need to feed every 4 hours, the baby would sleep through, and I could do it in public instead of embarrassing her.

the best visitor I had was my sister, who came down for a few days. Not particularly baby orientated but I could have cried with gratitude when she did the hoovering and washing up before the HV came.

childoftkty · 12/04/2026 20:20

There is no way on this earth I would have kept my parents or in laws away from meeting my baby. They met our first when he was hours old, I wouldn’t have forgiven myself if I had kept them away. With the other 2 they were helping me with the older one/s with nursery / school drop off / taking to clubs so of course they met them.

hahabahbag · 12/04/2026 20:32

@Cornflakes44

its fine to say no visitors but don’t then complain later if they aren’t as attentive as you would like and fail to offer to babysit - I’ve been on here a long time!

Cornflakes44 · 12/04/2026 20:36

hahabahbag · 12/04/2026 20:32

@Cornflakes44

its fine to say no visitors but don’t then complain later if they aren’t as attentive as you would like and fail to offer to babysit - I’ve been on here a long time!

So basically give us what we want despite your discomfort at an incredibly vulnerable time or you’ll be punished. If these were the terms my family set then I think I’d be ok without their ‘support’.

LindorDoubleChoc · 12/04/2026 20:36

TheBlueKoala · 12/04/2026 20:06

Seems like many posters don't understand what @Bringbackbuffy has said:
Respect the mum's wishes whatever they might be (visits or no visits).
So no need to say "Well, I loved having visitors.." because then all us fine. But how would you have felt if you didn't want visitors and family imposed on you?

You seem to have misunderstood the am I being unreasonable part to the question. It isn't necessary for everyone to agree with OP's stance. If you don't agree you are invited to say why.

H202too · 12/04/2026 20:42

MissyB1 · 12/04/2026 14:38

When my granddaughter was born I waited 3 weeks to go and visit them (they live 3 hours away), and when I did go I booked into a hotel to not be in their way, and give Dil some space. The other grandma (Dil’s mum) rushed down the motorway that day to see the baby whilst they were still in the hospital! I’m probably a bit over conscious of not stepping on toes though.

My parents did the same and I was glad of it. I was also death warmed up. I wouldn't have coped without my parents staying with us. They went home for a week and II had to ask them to come back.

So I guess it depends on the visitor. They certainly didn't expect me to make cups of tea they were just really helpful.

phoenixrosehere · 12/04/2026 20:45

elliejjtiny · 12/04/2026 20:01

I think it's lovely to have lots of visitors if they are kind and helpful but so many people aren't. I stayed in hospital for over a week after having my youngest and as most people only stayed for a day or 2 I saw loads of different mums and their visitors. I would say more than half were awful. People making rude comments about other patients, out of control older kids, pervy grandads peering round curtains. More than one grandma more concerned about her son than about her dil who had just had a traumatic birth.

I loved having visitors who were kind and helpful. I've got a lovely photo of my friend's then toddler proudly cuddling newborn ds3. They are 17 and 15 now and ds3 still sleeps with the cuddly toy she chose for him when he was born. But there were times when people would put their own wants over my baby's needs. Ds1 in particular would want to be either sleeping or on my boob as a newborn so there would be complaining from people who wanted to hold him and people were reluctant to give him back to me so I could feed him. For the first day or so after my vaginal births I was on top of the world but on day 2 onwards I was knackered and just wanted to sleep when the baby did which seemed to be for no longer than 40 minutes at the most.

I was only in the hospital for under 48 hours and omg some of the family members that came into the maternity ward I wouldn’t wish on my worse enemy.

Unfortunately, some posters cannot fathom or relate to having such family members so they rather make it out that women that do have such family are being precious and because it’s ‘family’ it should be tolerated because they’re just “excited”.

I have never in my life been so excited that I would blatantly not consider or ignore the feelings of a postpartum mum when it comes to them and their own baby. Most would be pretty peeved if they were not considered or ignored when it comes to any ailment, yet postpartum mums seem to be an exception.

CPNSBH · 12/04/2026 20:50

So if you had a son who wanted you to meet his new baby you’d be okay with his wife saying.. Nope I want 6 weeks of recovery?

Asthenia · 12/04/2026 20:55

Totally agree that it should be about what the new mum wants. I was very lucky and had a quick, complication free labour - was home 4 hours later. I had nonstop visitors for the first two weeks and I absolutely loved it - I was so excited to show off DD and see everyone but I’m a very sociable person. It also felt like a distraction from the exhaustion I felt!
I was very conscious of not overstepping boundaries when a close friend had her son and sent messages but kept away. After a few days she rang me quite put out that I hadn’t been round to visit her and the baby!

Bringbackbuffy · 12/04/2026 20:57

LindorDoubleChoc · 12/04/2026 20:36

You seem to have misunderstood the am I being unreasonable part to the question. It isn't necessary for everyone to agree with OP's stance. If you don't agree you are invited to say why.

But it seems to me most of the people are saying along the lines of this was my birth experience, I had visitors and enjoyed it so you should too.

They are ignoring the point that I have said mother’s wishes should take priority. How would some of these women felt if they had wanted to show off their new born and family had said “no thanks, we’ll give it a fortnight”?

most of the examples in my OP were people overstaying their welcome, because that is the boundary that is most often crossed and the most recent examples on here. But my point was about putting mums wishes above your own for 2 weeks- whether that’s she invites you to come see baby at the hospital on Friday morning when you usually play golf; or if she is wanting a bit of peace.

OP posts:
Fishingboatbobbingnight · 12/04/2026 21:02

my MIL was absolutely fabulous when my babies arrived .. she moved in. Cooked cleaned .. cuddled and bought them to me fo be fed x 3… she was (sadly and much missed now) but I will never forget her perfect and beautiful kindness .. made the whole procedure super enjoyable and relaxing ..

Bringbackbuffy · 12/04/2026 21:05

LindorDoubleChoc · 12/04/2026 20:12

Testing to see - Is it now a bannable offence to say that this op reads like it wasn't written by a human?

Your ChatGPT radar needs calibrating. I am human.

I will say I am dyslexic, who has also spent quite a lot of time writing technical papers. So have a mix on opening posts of being quite careful that the dyslexia doesn’t hide the meaning- in the only way I know how, which is quite structured.

Although here some of the meaning has got lost where my opening examples were too slanted towards take care of her boundaries rather than step up and visit or help- which has meant lots of people commenting how much they loved having visitors, which kind of misses the point.

OP posts:
Owly11 · 12/04/2026 21:07

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Hillarious · 12/04/2026 21:15

Bringbackbuffy · 12/04/2026 14:43

But you got the support you wanted and needed. Parents looking after you other children, a meal on the way home from the hospital. I am not advocating space- I am advocating doing what the family needs.

my examples may have tended towards people intruding because it seems that it is often excitement that tramples on the boundaries

You’ve just illustrated that this is about family dynamics, rather than a need to draw up rules on how visitors should behave. I have a supportive and respectful family. No way would I have waited three weeks to introduce them to their granddaughter, niece, cousin.

Cornflakes44 · 12/04/2026 21:52

CPNSBH · 12/04/2026 20:50

So if you had a son who wanted you to meet his new baby you’d be okay with his wife saying.. Nope I want 6 weeks of recovery?

Surely then that’s between them to agree. Not for you just to ride over her views. You don’t know why she needs 6 weeks. Why don’t you think she gets any say in it. What would waiting 6 weeks do to you? The baby will still be there.

JaceLancs · 12/04/2026 22:07

DD has a 3 week old and both are doing really well
Her DH has 4-5 weeks off and is very hands on
Visitors are being well spaced out and no family members are too full on and frequent
Baby is very portable and quite chilled so they are getting out and about most days even if it’s just supermarket run or a coffee shop or lunch date
I always ask in advance before visiting or meeting and keep it short between feeds
We even managed a birthday meal out for 6, baby slept in pram for the entire meal and managed to get home before needing next feed

Aiming4Optimistic · 12/04/2026 22:07

I don't think that the new mum and baby bond will be affected by allowing the GPs to visit for an hour or so. Very few women are so unwell that they need to take to their beds for weeks on end - I think there can be an element of gate keeping and score settling with some women when it comes to this insistence on a 'bubble'!

The GPs are excited to welcome someone who is part of their family too and if you want your children to enjoy all of the benefits of having a loving support network, and help down the line when you need it, there has to be an acknowledgement that your baby is related to your in-laws and parents too and they are allowed to be enthusiastic and visit!

I'll caveat that by saying a lot of these issues result from weak men not stepping up and doing their bit. The dad/partner should manage visitors and not allow them to make demands and expect to be waited on. It's perfectly okay to eject piss takers from the house.

My in-laws were a total pita when my dc were babies, but I still think I would have been a total cow to not allow them an early visit, when their behaviour stemmed from love and excitement.

One day, all these mums who insist on being left alone, will be the parents/in-laws frozen out by controlling kids.

cantgardenintherain · 12/04/2026 22:15

It’s individual. I didn’t mind visitors soon, as long as they didn’t stay long and expected no waitressing. Some do mind. Either way, say what you want and don’t mage a drama out of it, would be my attitude.

elliejjtiny · 12/04/2026 23:01

phoenixrosehere · 12/04/2026 20:45

I was only in the hospital for under 48 hours and omg some of the family members that came into the maternity ward I wouldn’t wish on my worse enemy.

Unfortunately, some posters cannot fathom or relate to having such family members so they rather make it out that women that do have such family are being precious and because it’s ‘family’ it should be tolerated because they’re just “excited”.

I have never in my life been so excited that I would blatantly not consider or ignore the feelings of a postpartum mum when it comes to them and their own baby. Most would be pretty peeved if they were not considered or ignored when it comes to any ailment, yet postpartum mums seem to be an exception.

I was in a bay with my youngest where they tried to put the mums with babies who were poorly but not poorly enough for scbu. Ds had just come out of scbu and was under the lights for his jaundice. One lady in the bay had had an awful time and baby had been injured by the forceps and was on painkillers which they don't give lightly to newborns. The baby screamed all the time and the woman's MIL kept saying the baby just wanted her Nanna. Then she kept making a huge fuss over her son, and whether he had enough to eat etc. She never once asked her dil how she was, or showed any concern for her at all.

SarahAndQuack · 12/04/2026 23:11

hahabahbag · 12/04/2026 20:32

@Cornflakes44

its fine to say no visitors but don’t then complain later if they aren’t as attentive as you would like and fail to offer to babysit - I’ve been on here a long time!

Why not?

I think this is really silly. If someone is petty and childish enough to take the hump over a newly postpartum mum not wanting visitors that they then go into a sulk, that's really on them.