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Can we just, for the first 2–3 weeks after birth, put new mums first?

172 replies

Bringbackbuffy · 11/04/2026 17:23

I keep seeing posts where mums, MILs, or parents in general (and I do want to stress I’m not trying to be sexist, it just often seems to come up more on the maternal side of families) feel entitled to immediate access to a newborn, often at exactly the time the mother is recovering from birth, sleep-deprived, hormonally wiped, and trying to establish feeding and bonding.

And I do get it: nobody is entitled to help, and “help” isn’t automatic. But what’s often framed as help can realistically be quite self-serving. The wider family is focused on access, excitement, or status, for the visitor rather than the actual needs of the mother and baby and dresses up self issued invitations and offers of support.

From a purely physical and medical point of view, those early weeks are not a casual time. NHS guidance is clear that the first 6 weeks postpartum involve significant recovery whether vaginal birth or C-section. Layer on top of that the fact that chronic sleep deprivation is strongly associated with increased anxiety, low mood, impaired decision-making, and higher risk of postnatal depression. In other words, this is a period where cognitive and emotional load is already stretched to capacity.

Yet just in the last few days here we have seen posts and threads where:

  • grandparents arriving within an hour of mum and baby getting home
  • families expecting immediate updates the moment labour starts, then using that information to justappear
  • pressure to accommodate visitors days after birth
  • new mums having to actively manage information flow about when they have gone into labour or are going home just to get some privacy and prevent boundary crossings
That last one really stands out to me. The idea that someone who is physically recovering, learning to feed a newborn, and functioning on broken sleep should also be responsible for carefully managing other adults’ expectations, emotions, and potential offence just feels fundamentally imbalanced. I saw a post recently where a mum didn’t want her own mother staying in the early weeks because she knew it would increase stress. One suggestion was essentially “just invite her for two weeks later so she doesn’t feel left out.” But why is it always on the new mum to reframe, reschedule, soften, and emotionally manage everyone else’s feelings? Why is that the default expectation at exactly the moment she is least resourced to do it?

It also feels like part of a wider pattern where daughters and women are still expected to be “kind”, accommodating, and conflict-avoiding even in situations where they are recovering from a major medical event. We don’t usually expect that level of emotional labour from someone recovering from surgery or illness, but it somehow persists around birth.

Of course family members are excited. That’s completely understandable. But excitement doesn’t override the reality that this is a short, medically and emotionally intense recovery window where the mother and babyneeds should come first.

Is it really so unreasonable to suggest that for just a few weeks, the default should be mum and baby first? And if people genuinely want to help, why not ask what would actually be helpful, rather than dressing up presence and visits as support?

Because right now it seems like the emotional labour of protecting boundaries is being placed on the person least able to carry it. And there are always a few commenters trying to excuse the inexcusable as -they are just excited.

OP posts:
SarahAndQuack · 12/04/2026 23:15

Usernamenotfound1 · 12/04/2026 20:20

I absolutely did not want my mum 😂. She’s hard work at the best of times.

as expected she couldn’t understand why I didn’t want to go shopping with her when the baby was weeks old. She didn’t understand why I “looked terrible” hadn’t lost the baby weight in days, and why I insisted on “unhygienic” breastfeeding, when I could just bottle feed. Then I’d only need to feed every 4 hours, the baby would sleep through, and I could do it in public instead of embarrassing her.

the best visitor I had was my sister, who came down for a few days. Not particularly baby orientated but I could have cried with gratitude when she did the hoovering and washing up before the HV came.

Sorry, I didn't mean to suggest people can't genuinely not want their mums around! Obviously some people really don't feel that emotion at all.

What I was getting at was, when people come out with the line 'oh but you will want her when the time comes' I think it misses the point. Sure, I want my mum ... but I want the mum who doesn't exist, the one who would turn up and give me a hug and coo over the baby and maybe make the odd cup of tea. If someone could magic me up that mum, great! Otherwise, telling me I'll want her when I have a baby is just cruel.

Bunnycat101 · 12/04/2026 23:20

I think it comes down to what the mother wants. Newborns are lovely at a few hours old and a few weeks old. No-one will be missing out on anything by waiting a few days if asked to. So much depends on natural personality, the level of challenge re the birth, relationship with parents/in-laws etc. First birth I needed time before visitors as I was unwell. Second was easy and I was totally up for seeing people within hours of the birth.

My first birth which was horrific and I was very much not ready for visitors in the hospital. The suggestion back from my in-laws was that they could just come to the cafe and my husband could take the baby away from me for them to meet and they didn’t need to see me. Baby and I were still on hourly monitoring at that point and obviously baby wasn’t allowed out of the ward so was a total non starter thankfully. I had such a visceral reaction to someone wanting to separate me from my newborn. I’d had a PPH and was in a bad way and it just made me very cross. That is not ever something I’d suggest to my own daughters. My first priority would be them and their recovery and the second meeting the baby.

Overcookedch · 12/04/2026 23:34

Agreed . After the initial meet and greets with dc2 we went on holiday as we knew it was the only way to escape too many visits early on, which can be draining!

FairCat · 12/04/2026 23:34

So, when asked, "How about we respect the wishes of a woman who has just given birth." A third of voters think that's an unreasonable proposition. Really?

OnceUponATimed · 12/04/2026 23:41

It should be led by the new mother. When I was a new mum (every time) I was so happy to have the support of my family (parents and in laws) that I welcomed them on day one. They were helpful and warm though. And only my mum and dad stayed in the house during thenfirst week.
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WhosAfraidOfVirginalWolves · 13/04/2026 00:08

While I've definitely seen some rather precious posts on MN about keeping up a little bubble for "our little family", people do seem to forget that a LOT of women have fairly considerable post-birth injuries. My friend suffered serious tearing and nerve damage when having her second child and was effectively doubly incontinent for a few weeks following the birth, as well as being in a tremendous amount of pain, and had asked for just a few days without visitors, other than her own mother.

That was almost ten years ago now, and her MIL is still complaining that they were made to feel like "second class grandparents" because of it (after four days they turned up anyway). The fact that someone might prefer their own mother there after undergoing a fairly major, traumatic medical incident is apparently unacceptable.

WhosAfraidOfVirginalWolves · 13/04/2026 00:22

MyFAFOera · 12/04/2026 16:12

Bet your mum had been and met baby though.

Just your mil you wouldn't allow eh?

Look, if your son ever has to undergo a lengthy, painful medical procedure which tears open his perineum, then you can have first dibs on visiting rights.

When your daughter in law is left in that position, don't you think it's a teensy bit understandable that she prefers her own mum there?

TheBlueKoala · 13/04/2026 06:01

LindorDoubleChoc · 12/04/2026 20:36

You seem to have misunderstood the am I being unreasonable part to the question. It isn't necessary for everyone to agree with OP's stance. If you don't agree you are invited to say why.

Disingenious. You know damn well that nobody would disagree if they understood what was being asked. Some posters seem to think that the OP wanted to put a ban on visitors whether the mum wanted to or not which was obviously not the case.

PollyBell · 13/04/2026 06:16

No not everyone is the same and yes things can change or go wrong but I was a normal fully functional human female before during and after giving birth and didnt need anyone speaking about me like I was not in the room, giving birth did not take away my ability to think for myself and I was fully able to make my own decisions, if I didnt want visitors I was quite capable of saying so, I also had the ever decreasing ability to say no

I did not need to be sat at home and patted on the head I was able to speak for myself, and not all wormen but I was ablew to out and about from the after the birth which is what I did, not everyone needs to turn giving birth into some miracle it has been happening since humans walked the planet

FruAashild · 13/04/2026 06:49

My Mum was brilliant and stayed with us a week and took over the running of the house each time, cooking all food and cleaning etc. When DS was premature she flew down as quickly as she could and took my older kids to school and nursery each day and basically did what was needed so I could concentrate on DS, 9my recovery and establishing BFing. Despite her doing all that, when my DB (the easiest visitor in the world) came to visit a week after DD1 was born I was in tears the night before because I was so exhausted I didn't know what I would be able to say to him. I was completely overwhelmed even with all the support Mum was giving me.

Unfortunately my PILs and DH were not so supportive or considerate. With DD1 I was in hospital for a week due to various issues before and after the birth, before I was discharged home they announced they all wanted to come and stay for a few days. 'All' being PIL, SIL, BIL plus wife and 2 primary school age kids. We had a 3 bed house and my Mum was already staying with us. When I pointed this out and said there was no room DH said they were going to hire a caravan and park it on the street outside and 'just' use our house for the bathroom and meals. We had an all night argument with me begging him to tell them no because I was too exhausted to host them and him not understanding why I wouldn't let them come. The only argument that convinced him it wasn't a good option was that it is illegal to be living in a caravan on a street. Obviously this is partly a DH problem (he gets very focussed on an idea at times and needs a lot of convincing before he will abandon it). Eventually they were persuaded that just PILs should come for a few hours (Mum cooked lunch for them) but that really damaged my relationship with them for a long time, I was so upset they didn't consider my recovery at all.

Not everyone has local friends and family who 'pop past for an hour with food'. Some of us have inconsiderate family who expect a brand new mother to host them for an extended period of time. It's no wonder some of us need to put in strict boundaries for those family members.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 13/04/2026 06:52

It really is down to the individual how they feel afterwards. Not everyone has a difficult birthing experience or need a lot of rest.
The choice should be available.

MouseCheese87 · 13/04/2026 06:58

hahabahbag · 12/04/2026 14:40

I can’t personally see the issue, I was keen on visitors with my first one 3 hours after dd2 was born (dd1 was born late evening so first visitors were obviously when I got home the next day) I was on the phone (pre social media) straight away to friends. I nipped to the supermarket the next day, i wasn’t incapacitated in any way, within a week I’d been all over. 6 weeks rest unless you have had difficulties is not needed, I flew by then!

I agree, especially if you have other kids. You just have to get on with it and an offer of help from my mum to take the older kids to school or have them for a few hours now and again was invaluable.

TheGoldenOwl · 13/04/2026 07:07

Since reading mumsnet (I'm child free) I have felt so awkward at going to ask to see/meet friend's babies because you just don't know if you're welcome!

Motherhood changes people and the hormonal surge definitely does.

So I just send a congratulations message and then back off until spoken to. I try not to message either; I don't want to be a nuisance to them in their new world talking about normal stuff, but don't want to ask about baby either because privacy and all that.

It has become a minefield

CopeNorth · 13/04/2026 07:23

ExtraOnions · 12/04/2026 14:30

We aren’t all the same … I couldn’t wait for family to meet DD. My brother & SIL came to the hospital, my sister was with me in the Labour room (along with DH), we called off to see MiL on the way home from hospital (and felt very lucky as our nieces were there). My sister was over for the first few days, and helped when I struggled with BF. From there we had loads of help, Mum and MiL both looked after DD when I went back to work, and used to collect her from Primary School. I never lacked baby sitters, and DD was staying over from about a year before of.

When she was older and her ASD became more obvious, we had masses of help from SiL, and wider family.

I am a great believer in “it takes a village” .. I find all the “bubble” stuff a bit twee.

Yes. That’s exactly what the OP is saying - that we are not all the same and it should be the new mother put first, however that looks.

GlovedhandsCecilia · 13/04/2026 07:32

Cornflakes44 · 12/04/2026 20:36

So basically give us what we want despite your discomfort at an incredibly vulnerable time or you’ll be punished. If these were the terms my family set then I think I’d be ok without their ‘support’.

The reality is that the type of person who wants weeks alone with their new baby befire visitors, is also likely to be the tyoe of person who has various rules and regulations when it comes to interacting with the baby. Even towards the baby's other parent.

This micromanaging ultimately distances the baby from other relatives. They never get to have an independent connection that isn't always influenced by the mother. They never learn about each other. Other adults never get to learn their way of settling this baby and the baby never gets to gain trust in this adult. That impacts on the relationship down the line. You now never feel comfortable leaving the baby with MIL because they genuinely arent settled with her.

So it isn't that they punish you, but this approach to parenting sets you on a path where your baby is ultimately distanced from other adults and therefore they end up spending very little time with or having much attachment to anyone else.

By the time baby is 3, mum is exhausted and dad can't be much help because he's never been allowed to develop his own way of interacting with his child. He's been forced to emulate mum as per her wishes and it just doesnt work because he's dad.

ConverselyAttired · 13/04/2026 07:33

YANBU. I am still fucked off that the trainee midwife (and I really wish I had said something) told me, just as I was fully dilated, that my MIL had rung the ward for an update and said could we text her back. My mum knew and was happy for her to do it. I've had to push my feelings down a decade later but I'm still angry.

A few weeks after my mum, who is not prone to dramatics, said "We thought you were dead". It really was not my fault that they didn't understand that an induction can take days. As it was I gave birth 7 hours after we got there and they had had a text about 3 hours before to say I was fine.

Years later my son loves all his grandparents and has done sleepovers/weekends away with them since he was 3 so I don't favour either set, I just wanted my birth to myself!!

Oopsadaisy92 · 13/04/2026 07:35

Totally agree and id probably make it longer like 5-6 weeks if I could. For me its the paternal side who have no boundaries.

GlovedhandsCecilia · 13/04/2026 07:36

TheGoldenOwl · 13/04/2026 07:07

Since reading mumsnet (I'm child free) I have felt so awkward at going to ask to see/meet friend's babies because you just don't know if you're welcome!

Motherhood changes people and the hormonal surge definitely does.

So I just send a congratulations message and then back off until spoken to. I try not to message either; I don't want to be a nuisance to them in their new world talking about normal stuff, but don't want to ask about baby either because privacy and all that.

It has become a minefield

Then that woman is probably on mumsnet saying all my friends have abandoned me since I had the baby.

I sae this American reel thing where they suggested people just come over your home and drop things on your doorstep. Meals etc. Then turn around and go home without actually visiting.

I'm sorry but that is bizarre. We've turned having a baby into something totally crazy now.

SexIsNotNebulous · 13/04/2026 07:44

Jellybunny98 · 12/04/2026 14:41

The key thing for me is that it should be about what mum wants here, as the one recovering.

If mum wants visitors- amazing, have them!

If mum doesn’t, don’t.

Couldn’t agree more with this!

It never bothered me with mine, I loved the attention and people gushing over my first child. After reading how some new mums on here like to shut themselves away for a two weeks after their first birth I was very cautious when my first DGD was born, not knowing how to play it. But my son and wonderful DiL, called me at 7am after the birth and invited me straight to the hospital to see the baby.

They have welcomed me ever since, and appreciated the help I have given, and feel free to ask for help when needed.

Here, we are just one large extended family, and not two separate families to be in each other’s lives only when the calendar dictates we can on set terms.

I do however, accept that other people have other family and friend dynamics, often more formal and not as close.

Minnie798 · 13/04/2026 08:04

I think this only really works with a first baby. When you have another child in the mix, this mindset is not great for them.

WhatNoRaisins · 13/04/2026 08:15

GlovedhandsCecilia · 13/04/2026 07:36

Then that woman is probably on mumsnet saying all my friends have abandoned me since I had the baby.

I sae this American reel thing where they suggested people just come over your home and drop things on your doorstep. Meals etc. Then turn around and go home without actually visiting.

I'm sorry but that is bizarre. We've turned having a baby into something totally crazy now.

To be fair I've found that when I messaged to say I'm dropping off something by the door I tend to be invited in. I think the less intrusive you come across the more likely people will let you in.

OhWise1 · 13/04/2026 08:16

I was always quite excited to show off new baby to my own parents and siblings.With MIL and FIL, if i wasn't uo to it, I disappeared off upstairs for a lie down and left the new baby with dh and them to deal with for a bit.

Badgerandfox227 · 13/04/2026 08:18

I think it’s all very personal. For me, I’d had a long induction, but couldn’t wait to show my baby to my parents and PIL. I had visitors at the hospital and then at home, and for one visit I did have to cut short as I felt faint, but I had no issues advocating for myself and I knew my partner would also advocate for me.

In all honesty I really appreciated the help from my DM and MIL with feeding and newborn tips, as well as from my sisters and SIL. It takes a village.

NerrSnerr · 13/04/2026 08:21

hahabahbag · 12/04/2026 14:40

I can’t personally see the issue, I was keen on visitors with my first one 3 hours after dd2 was born (dd1 was born late evening so first visitors were obviously when I got home the next day) I was on the phone (pre social media) straight away to friends. I nipped to the supermarket the next day, i wasn’t incapacitated in any way, within a week I’d been all over. 6 weeks rest unless you have had difficulties is not needed, I flew by then!

Everyone is different. After my first I couldn’t get out of bed for 48 hours and I was really unwell for about 3 weeks, just getting through. For me, personally, having visitors was much harder than just trying to get through with my husband’s support. Especially with lots of medical appointments.

The OP isn’t saying that everyone needs a long recovery time and no one should visit at all for a set period, she’s saying that the post partum mother should be respected in her choices regarding visits. Just because you had a good experience doesn’t mean everyone does.

NerrSnerr · 13/04/2026 08:26

MouseCheese87 · 13/04/2026 06:58

I agree, especially if you have other kids. You just have to get on with it and an offer of help from my mum to take the older kids to school or have them for a few hours now and again was invaluable.

It all depends on the person though doesn’t it? My mum obviously wanted to see her grandchildren when they were born. When my second was born they came to visit (mum and step dad), took some obligatory photos for Facebook and spent the rest of the time in the pub.

She also would have posted on gransnet about how the mums of today don’t let the grandparents see their new grandchildren and how we all have ‘new’ rules about sleeping, feeding car seats etc.

This is why, when someone says they want some space when a baby is born is probably best to respect it as every family looks different.