AIBU to find the comedian Katherine Ryan's turn to the right surprising?

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I was raised by a single mum and really liked Katherine Ryan's early standup that mostly focused on being a single mum in crap relationships. Several years ago she hooked up with her childhood sweetheart and had several kids with him, and since then her persona has taken quite a turn.

She defended the manosphere participants in Louis Theroux's recent docs, said that she liked Jordan Peterson, and today on social has featured her partner talking about how the moon landing is a conspiracy. Partner is 'not academic' I'll say politely, and MAGA-adjacent. He doesn't work and is a full time dad yet Katherine does the vast majority of childcare (and all of the earning) whilst he golfs. Clearly she got a lot of negative feedback from her (100% women and gay men) audience on her manosphere comments, because she backtracked a bit.

The situation seems like something she would have laughed at years ago, and it's been strange to see her comedy twist to support this, claiming she's always had provocative views.

I don't see any celebs as heroes so this isn't a 'my hero isn't who I expected' just more of a wow, didn't see this twist coming.

That one point she agreed with about working hard should have been set in the context of condemning the rest, but it wasn’t.

I don’t think OP has said liking Jordan Peterson is a ‘bad thing’. She’s explained (quite clearly) that she thinks liking Jordan Peterson is at odds with Katherine Ryan’s previous public persona.

Are you for real? The right are always using terms like ‘loony lefty’.

I hate to admit this but I think Jordan Peterson does sometimes talk a lot of sense. Not on everything and he seems to have become mor extreme recently but at one time he was articulate and thought provoking and right on a lot of things (in my view).

Jordan Peterson

Wasn't he a eugenicist?

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Yes, I am for real. I'm not talking about random abusive term such as 'loony left, 'gammon' etc. I'm referring to individuals being criticised for their perceived (wrong) voting preferences and ime this criticism does tend to come from the left.

I have always found her both strangely annoying and desperately unfunny, and cannot imagine having the slightest interest in anything she has to say about any topic.

Katherine has never, at any point, been unkind especially not on her way up though. You obviously can choose not to believe that of course. She clawed her way up in a male dominated industry, her onstage persona reflects that. Joan Rivers was her idol. Comedians all speak very highly of Katherine and she has lots of other (mostly left wing) comics as friends - that is how you know she isn’t a dick. Also the thing with her daughter - she changed to sharing her image when she hit 16, which I assume is because that was an age that her, her daughter and possibly her daughter’s father agreed she could be shown. Remember also that Katherine was a single mother prior to marrying her partner, and was therefore tighter on online safety as a result. Anyway that’s just my bit, I’m not mates with Katherine but have friends that are. I don’t like seeing women taking other women down with little evidence.

And you think only those on the left do that? Seriously?

Oh thank God.
I've just read this thread in horror thinking you meant Catherine Tate and thinking I'd got her completely wrong. Phew. As I was.

I don't know about only those on the left, but ime in the UK it does tend to be those on the left - eg my Kate Bush example.
I'm happy to be corrected though 🙂

Saw her on the new series of Mock The Week, she hardly said anything and was the weakest panel member by far. Shame that she has lost it.

She is extremely dry and funny

She did a fantastic documentary about Joan Rivers, brilliant.

I don't care much about her either way, but I couldn't respect someone who documents her life and marriage dynamics on social media. Whatever is going on at home, posting publicly about how much work she does while he pursues a hobby is petty and nasty. If she needs to deal with her relationship that's something to be done on private. There are many wives of successful or famous men who don't do much all day and if men were taking the piss out of them like this there would be a backlash and I would think very little of them. So to avoid double standards I am going to say the same of her.

He is a clinical psychologist.

Her other kids are under 5 and they’re plastered everywhere. She actually showed her eldest long before 16 as well - though at least her early childhood was private.

Those type of views are not remotely 'nuanced'. They are RW batshittery and challenging them has naff all to do with following any herd🙄

For me there has always been something worrying about her harsh and empathy lacking comedy. Now everything about it is. The 2 very shifting things were parading her small kids and teen in front of us and her plastic surgery.

He’s an arsehole. I hope she isn’t a fan. I like her.

Katherine has never, at any point, been unkind especially not on her way up though.

You say you don’t know her so how can you say that? Have you shadowed her entire career?

Katherine has never, at any point, been unkind especially not on her way up though.

You say you don’t know her so how can you say that? Have you shadowed her entire career?

Yes, the correction is that it happens on both sides.

How is JP an arsehole?

And why do you 'hope' she doesn't like him?

This. I don’t ‘get’ anything about her.

If you are that close that you know her personally is it appropriate to speak about her with that much detail