Another child killed by a dog...

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Another poor child is killed by a dog.... We already know this is an XL Bully, don't even have to wait for confirmation.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce35zkl9dg3o

Your second paragraph is key I think. We don’t enforce low level laws across the board, so there is escalation and we end up with “something must be done”. Another example is e scooters. Not legal to own and ride on public roads, but widely owned and ridden on public roads. We’ll wait until enough people are killed or seriously injured and then ‘do something’. We could have just enforced the laws we have.

There’s also a degree of community responsibility. There are at least two examples on this thread of people describing clear breaches of the law on XLs, but not reporting them. So report, report and complain when reports aren’t followed up.

Why shouldn’t she? It’s her choice. I have friends with GSD’s and Rottie’s, all fabulous dogs, well trained and a joy to be around. Great hiking companions.

Yes the XL’s with genes from Killer Kimbo are just not safe. They are just wired wrong. They should be humanely PTS for everyone’s safety.

It might not be the parents, could have been someone visiting the house and bringing the dogs? Or has it been confirmed it was the family’s own dogs?

40kg is about six stone, if my maths is right, the weight of an average 8-10 year old child. I have picked up and carried off an angry, hitting, meltdowning not listening to anything child of that age and size before, more than once. And I’m an average female.

Your maths is wrong. (age+4)x2 ergo 10 year old average is about 28kg.

I agree, just put them to sleep. Though I don’t fancy being the vet tech that has to sedate them to do the job.

Precisely. If the authorities wanted to, they could have dealt with XL bullies under the DDA 1991 before there was an explosion in the numbers of the bloody things. 5 years ago we saw peak numbers of them, fuelled by the puppy breeding boom during the Covid lockdowns. I remember seeing more and more of them on every street corner, and thinking, jesus what horrific things they were. Chilling.

So many attacks and deaths could have been avoided if they'd used common sense and jumped on it. It was all so sadly predictable.

I actually have a photo of my children on the airport scales age 6 and they’re 20 kg
So by 10 probably guess they’re about 27/28kgs

Poor child. I hope the owners of the dog are changed with manslaughter.

Unfortunately some people are just incredibly stupid and think it will never happen to them. All xl bullies should be pts.

It’s just another form of natural selection. Stupid people own vicious dogs who kill their own children. You couldn’t make it up!

A tranquiliser dart would do it. Probably the only way.

That’s quite a high price to pay age 3 months though, isn’t it?

We’re meant to protect the most vulnerable in society

Was the child only 3 months old? That’s horrific. Poor baby. The parents are supposed to protect their children. They failed spectacularly. And they’ll live with that for ever. I hope it hurts! At least it wasn’t the child of someone who has nothing to do with the dog.

You’re on every single dog thread saying this. It’s never going to happen.

Whatever the law you always get people who ignore it, but it does help to maintain some sort of order in our society. Ok most drivers speed at some time or other, but generally speaking they stick to the rules - or at least a bit above them. With no speeding laws at all, it would be a free for all.

At the moment we have a free for all for dogs, albeit that there are stiffer penalties for people who let their dogs maul livestock. I do think if we had licences and strict liability for owners if their dogs injure someone it would reduce incidents.

Also stop foreign rescues coming in - they are not "rescues" they are bred in puppy farms for gullible Brits.

They should go to jail for manslaughter. But they won't.

Can you report this - as you probably know, breeding is illegal under the ban.

@igelkott2026 "Also stop foreign rescues coming in - they are not "rescues" they are bred in puppy farms for gullible Brits"

Also often entitled Brits who demand a dog, but responsible breeders and rescues won't let them have dogs for reasons such as young children, unsuitable premises or lifestyles etc, They bypass this by looking at overseas rescues that may have more lax regulations and/or don't have the facilities to take dogs back if there are problems.

Yes this. The XL should have been stopped before it started. But now a full euthanasia campaign is the only answer. Especially any descendants of Killer Kimbo.

The other 200+ breeds of dogs provide huge amounts of joy, companionship and love to millions of people. A few demented frothers ain't going to change that.

I’m just laughing now. Bless your heart. There we are then.

Oh my god that’s awful.

People do want to pay for that. They don't want to pay of a ton of the other shite our taxes get wasted on, but effective and adequate policing is exactly what most people are happy to pay for.

So not actually her dogs 😳

Who ever these beasts belong to doesn’t alter the fact that it’s a terrible tragedy.