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Jamie Laing and Sophie

175 replies

Cindycrawfordlooksamazeballs · 09/04/2026 21:45

I watched a bit of their series last night and felt really quite envious afterwards and am not usually like that.
They are both extremely wealthy, raised with money, young, good looking, healthy, big families, the best of everything in life.

They seem lovely, some people really do get it all though don’t they!

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Elektra1 · 10/04/2026 08:44

Tomcatdog · 10/04/2026 08:36

I’m not sure you need that much ‘acumen’ when you have the amount of money JL had at the time.

I watched what they shared on MiC when he set it up and found the whole thing gross. It went something along the lines of ‘ my bank manager has told me to stop spending money at the rate I am so I need to create a business. I want to sell sweets, but have really cute girls selling them who would be known as the candy kittens’ .
Him and some of the women on then held a ‘modelling casting’ to decide who would represent them, basically all sat round judging the models. It was very uncomfortable given none of them had any modelling experience and they just all came across as judgemental.

I’d like to think they’ve grown in the years that have passed but I’ve never seen any evidence of that and I’d like them to acknowledge how misogynistic they were at the time.

It does baffle me how people find them relatable. As pp have said, they’re merely a product who have no idea how most of us in the real world work.

You clearly have no experience of what it takes to run a successful business. Yes some people get a leg up at the start from family wealth, but the business doesn’t last long if they don’t also have the commercial acumen to run it successfully.

Tomcatdog · 10/04/2026 08:52

Elektra1 · 10/04/2026 08:44

You clearly have no experience of what it takes to run a successful business. Yes some people get a leg up at the start from family wealth, but the business doesn’t last long if they don’t also have the commercial acumen to run it successfully.

I run a successful business, and I recognise that with enough money you can pay for (not an exhaustive list) business, sales, marketing, location, competition, target audience, HR and tax advisors who will all hide your own ‘acumen’.

I have no idea if JL has this or not and neither do I care but if the way he portrayed setting up the business is anything to go by, he has had one heck of a leg up which I would place a big bet on included a lot of the above!

lovescats3 · 10/04/2026 08:58

There are some horrible comments on here. I bumped into JL on the street with my son who was in primary school at the time and we had a nice chat with him, seemed friendly. One of the producers coincidentally told me that there wasn't much requirement for script writing at the time he was in MIC because the cast provided all of the story lines themselves

Stoneycold12 · 10/04/2026 08:59

I think it's bizzare that they have given up their privacy, and their children's privacy, for an odd type of fame.

They're not well known for any accomplishments, he's a Tim Rich but Dim character.

If they don't need the money, and I doubt they do, it all seems like to be a need for attention, and their kids won't get a say.

We've seen how Brand Beckham has partially imploded, why would any other family want a public life for their kids?

Elektra1 · 10/04/2026 09:04

Tomcatdog · 10/04/2026 08:52

I run a successful business, and I recognise that with enough money you can pay for (not an exhaustive list) business, sales, marketing, location, competition, target audience, HR and tax advisors who will all hide your own ‘acumen’.

I have no idea if JL has this or not and neither do I care but if the way he portrayed setting up the business is anything to go by, he has had one heck of a leg up which I would place a big bet on included a lot of the above!

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To get the investment required to scale a business, you do need to show commercial acumen. Professional investors do not throw money at talentless idiots. Candy Kittens’ main investor is the Katjes Group, a successful German confectionary conglomerate part of whose business model is acquiring other confectionary brands. Jamie remains a shareholder and director but is no longer the UBO, following Katjes’ investment last year.

The company would not have attracted this type of investment if it were not run on a sound commercial basis with good growth prospects.

I’ll just repeat my observation that sniping about other people and their success doesn’t make you big or clever. It just makes you look unpleasant.

awaynboilyurheid · 10/04/2026 09:05

He has tinnitus like me and has struggled with it, it’s expletive deleted annoying now but and when you first get it it’s horrendous, so life isn’t always rosy even with money.

PeonyPatch · 10/04/2026 09:08

I can’t believe someone on here has compared him to Jimmy Saville. That is absolutely wild.

Tomcatdog · 10/04/2026 09:13

Elektra1 · 10/04/2026 09:04

To get the investment required to scale a business, you do need to show commercial acumen. Professional investors do not throw money at talentless idiots. Candy Kittens’ main investor is the Katjes Group, a successful German confectionary conglomerate part of whose business model is acquiring other confectionary brands. Jamie remains a shareholder and director but is no longer the UBO, following Katjes’ investment last year.

The company would not have attracted this type of investment if it were not run on a sound commercial basis with good growth prospects.

I’ll just repeat my observation that sniping about other people and their success doesn’t make you big or clever. It just makes you look unpleasant.

Oh DFOD!! 😂 you come across as not only unpleasant but sanctimonious and a bit of a dick!
My only actual criticism was what I said I saw on MIC years ago which was misogynistic and insipid. If they’ve made a successful company on the back of misogynistic footage then good for them I guess.

I said hopefully they’ve grown and I would love them to acknowledge their misogyny when they were younger (very few people are at our best in our 20’s and 30’s) but I’ve seen no evidence of it, it doesn’t mean they haven’t, but I have no interest in them anymore so I’ve not gone looking for the evidence.

HeBeaverandSheBeaver · 10/04/2026 09:13

I’ve watched Chelsea from the beginning and seen Jamie live and naked lol.
Sophie and Jamie started as friends for a looong time so she really knows him and his ways. He seems to have calmed hugely under her influence where before he was following the lifestyle of Spencer womanising and spending wads of cash.
he is very funny and I’d imagine fun to be with.

and yes he has stuggled
with mental health and adhd.
im pleased for him. I hope they make it.

littleburn · 10/04/2026 09:20

Hmm. I don’t know much about them as a couple but remember him from MIC back in the day. There was an interview with them on the BBC app a few days ago that I thought was interesting. Twice she makes comments about not wanting to share everything with the public, but ‘I never get my way’ and Jamie would get the say on the final edit. Apparently she’s now super happy with sharing everything, (after he’d ignored her boundaries and done that anyway!).
Jamie Laing and Sophie Habboo: 'Our new reality show leaves nothing out' https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c30r89lrq8eo

Sophie Habboo and Jamie Laing

Jamie Laing and Sophie Habboo on why Raising Chelsea is authentic

The couple say "nothing is off limits" in a new documentary which follows their pregnancy and parenthood journey.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c30r89lrq8eo

BridgetJonesV2 · 10/04/2026 09:23

Likely most couples who live very publicly on social media, it is a very carefully curated view that they're sharing. Behind closed doors with no cameras, they'll be bickering like 7 year olds about whose turn it is to load the dishwasher/change the baby. It's a sham of an existence that so called "influencers" would have us believe is real.

Katflapkit · 10/04/2026 09:25

MyDogTheInternetSensation · 10/04/2026 02:59

The jealous people are all on mumsnet tonight I see, across a few threads. Does a gay person look a certain way? Because he’s dated women, married a woman and they now have a child, so there is nothing to say he’s gay, unless you’re saying he ‘looks’ gay which is based on some outdated stereotypes. 🙄

From what we can see, they seem happy, they’re doing well (which is probably the issue), good luck to them. There are so many really horrible people in the world, I don’t think there’s any valid reason that these 2 should be on anyone’s radar in a negative way really.

Anyway, I love Candy Kittens. 😻

Lighten up Ms Morality Monitor. No one is jealous? A poster asked a question - it wasn't about looks - they didn't mention him looking 'gay' you did. And the other poster upthread bursting a blood vessel to cast the 'homophobia' stone and call it 'shocking'. Either of you seen the stoning scene from Life of Brian?

There were two other gay men in the early days of MIC Ollie Locke and Mark Francis. To me Jamie Lang is like a lot of those posh boys, there is an old fashioned word to describe it 'fey'. Nothing to do with sexuality. Quite frankly, it would have describe most of the male cast.

safetyfreak · 10/04/2026 09:35

Meh, I don't think much of them.

They are just the typical influencers. I have watched clips of their podcast.

I never thought Jamie was gay. Yes, he can come across as 'camp', but a lot of straight guys are. I don't get that vibe at all.

MissMoneyFairy · 10/04/2026 09:36

I've always liked him, he comes across kind but in danger of overdoing the media, he's on too many shows.

Oldandbored · 10/04/2026 09:38

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 09/04/2026 23:40

And why is he such a cock on everything he appears on?

please no one ever let him commentate on the Boat Race ever ever again. IDC what else he does tbh, just never that again. I thought Claire Baldings eyes would roll out the back of her head.

Silverbirchleaf · 10/04/2026 09:38

I guess he is gay, in the old fashioned sense of the word, ie, carefree, merry and bright!

Oldandbored · 10/04/2026 09:42

Silverbirchleaf · 10/04/2026 08:23

Dh listens to their podcast and enjoys it. Made a slight clanger at the Boat race though!

announcing the wrong losing team was the icing on the cake.. he was a hilarious nightmare over the whole afternoon...please just no never again!

Elektra1 · 10/04/2026 09:43

Tomcatdog · 10/04/2026 09:13

Oh DFOD!! 😂 you come across as not only unpleasant but sanctimonious and a bit of a dick!
My only actual criticism was what I said I saw on MIC years ago which was misogynistic and insipid. If they’ve made a successful company on the back of misogynistic footage then good for them I guess.

I said hopefully they’ve grown and I would love them to acknowledge their misogyny when they were younger (very few people are at our best in our 20’s and 30’s) but I’ve seen no evidence of it, it doesn’t mean they haven’t, but I have no interest in them anymore so I’ve not gone looking for the evidence.

“Love them to acknowledge their misogyny”? How about acknowledging your mean-spiritedness? Have you ever done anything in your life which, looking back on it years later, you considered a mistake (even if the behaviour was socially acceptable at the time)?

It is, objectively, unpleasant to make ill-informed, rude and judgemental comments about people you don’t know and never will know. If that view makes me “sanctimonious” then I’m happy to be so.

Mangelwurzelfortea · 10/04/2026 09:55

They do seem nice people. I did find the programme - well, the 15 minutes I watched - really boring but that was partly because I am way past the starting a family stage in life and won't be interested again until my own kids start doing it!

Sensiblesal · 10/04/2026 09:55

Tomcatdog · 10/04/2026 08:36

I’m not sure you need that much ‘acumen’ when you have the amount of money JL had at the time.

I watched what they shared on MiC when he set it up and found the whole thing gross. It went something along the lines of ‘ my bank manager has told me to stop spending money at the rate I am so I need to create a business. I want to sell sweets, but have really cute girls selling them who would be known as the candy kittens’ .
Him and some of the women on then held a ‘modelling casting’ to decide who would represent them, basically all sat round judging the models. It was very uncomfortable given none of them had any modelling experience and they just all came across as judgemental.

I’d like to think they’ve grown in the years that have passed but I’ve never seen any evidence of that and I’d like them to acknowledge how misogynistic they were at the time.

It does baffle me how people find them relatable. As pp have said, they’re merely a product who have no idea how most of us in the real world work.

Scripted reality show.

the actual reality is they started it with very little money

I think its the same for half the MIC cast or at least the originals, they came from money but didn’t all have money.

Talk about the programme fine, but all these he must be gay, gay/posh is not much different etc. etc. says more about the posters than them.

Sensiblesal · 10/04/2026 10:02

BridgetJonesV2 · 10/04/2026 09:23

Likely most couples who live very publicly on social media, it is a very carefully curated view that they're sharing. Behind closed doors with no cameras, they'll be bickering like 7 year olds about whose turn it is to load the dishwasher/change the baby. It's a sham of an existence that so called "influencers" would have us believe is real.

She said in an interview, which was kind of what prompted me to watch it, that the cameras filmed the most awful arguments & she had hoped they wouldn’t be shown.

i said in my first comment on the thread, I felt it was very relatable & the way Sophie behaved in the 3rd episode was akin to the many AIBU posts on mumsnet about parenting.

AmIReallyTheGrownup · 10/04/2026 10:06

Elektra1 · 10/04/2026 08:44

You clearly have no experience of what it takes to run a successful business. Yes some people get a leg up at the start from family wealth, but the business doesn’t last long if they don’t also have the commercial acumen to run it successfully.

It hasn’t stopped Victoria Beckham! 17 years of losses in a row. Money definitely helps keep a business alive.

Elektra1 · 10/04/2026 10:07

AmIReallyTheGrownup · 10/04/2026 10:06

It hasn’t stopped Victoria Beckham! 17 years of losses in a row. Money definitely helps keep a business alive.

The difference being that VB’s business has relied heavily on continued injections of cash from DB (as he uncharmingly noted in their TV programme). Jamie Laing’s business investors are arms-length investors.

Cindycrawfordlooksamazeballs · 10/04/2026 10:14

SheSaidHummingbird · 10/04/2026 01:11

@Cindycrawfordlooksamazeballs I could never be happy married to him.

How do you know

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LindorDoubleChoc · 10/04/2026 10:16

"I don’t think he’s gay, just posh and fancy, it can be easy to confuse."

Only if you are biased and thick as two short planks.