Jamie Laing and Sophie

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I watched a bit of their series last night and felt really quite envious afterwards and am not usually like that.
They are both extremely wealthy, raised with money, young, good looking, healthy, big families, the best of everything in life.

They seem lovely, some people really do get it all though don’t they!

As someone who has seen every episode of made in chelsea (I know, I know) Jamie was a womaniser and not particularly nice to the women he was dating but I never thought gay. He has lots of girlfriends and would get obsessive about them but also would have wild nights out and meet other ladies. I find the dynamic odd between Sophie and Jamie. He seems relentlessly upbeat and she seems annoyed with him a lot of the time. There are rumours she cheated on Jamie with an ex shortly before the wedding I think. I am not jealous of their dynamic but it would be nice to never think about money and have as many holidays as you like, as much help in the home etc.

This thread is a magnet for all of the worst elements of MN. “A bit gay”? On what basis? Because he’s got very blond hair and isn’t hyper-macho? I actually am gay, and as a very femme-presenting lesbian I find it insulting when people (usually men, or older women) say “you can’t be, you’re so pretty”. What?? Wtf is wrong with people? You can’t be a lesbian if you’re attractive and you must be gay as a man if you aren’t shouting about sports and women? It’s 2026, not 1956.

As for “a bit Jimmy Saville” - what? He’s got blond hair, that’s it! Never seen Jaime driving a Rolls Royce while wearing a shell suit and medallion, have you?

Reading this thread reminded me of observing a group of bullies in the primary school playground. Broaden your horizons, people! Tearing down the lives of people you don’t know and never will know is not exactly sharp social commentary.

I don’t think he’s gay, just posh and fancy, it can be easy to confuse.

I get it OP, I find myself jealous of anyone who can afford a meal out without scrimping and scraping nowadays. I have to avoid reality stars and influencers as they really trigger my jealousy. Especially the ones who pretend to be “down to earth” whilst living a very luxury life.

I did hear an interview with Jamie Laing where he spoke about going to boarding school at 8 years old. It was awful and must have scared him for life. I do not envy that.

Well if it makes you feel better Jamie Laing has tinnitus which - from my experience - can be absolutely life changingly horrible. So there is that.

It can seem that way and they are certainly lucky in a lot of ways. But I also found myself feeling anything but envious for his upbringing emotionally (the response to his book on mental health was shocking… and how his mum had no idea about his eating disorder and joked that she thought he had had a skinny stage from drugs…).

Jimmy Carr said on a podcast the other day that he thought happiness was your quality of life minus envy and that really stuck with me.

He isn’t very attractive so I always find them an odd couple to look at, very mismatched. I mean whatever floats your boat really, it’s just usually couples tend to match one another’s level of attractiveness.

I know very little about them. He owns a sweet company doesn’t he? I’m not even sure how they got famous, was it Made in Chelsea or something? On the podcast clips I’ve seen on shorts she seems to rib him constantly.

I hate Jimmy Carr’s new Alain De Botton impersonation, cringes me out.

This. I remember a footballer called Graeme Le Saux back in the day who got a bad time, other footballers thought he must be gay because he read the Guardian, drank red wine and liked to visit the odd art gallery. He was just an unusually highly educated middle class footballer. This was back in the 90s/00s and I’m shocked that this kind of stereotyping still exists.

What a horrible thread.
There are some really jealous bitter people on MN these days.

@Sartre I have found him a helpful voice on grief (if anyone is interested he did a great episode with Cariad Lloyd on Griefcast) and very articulate. But no need for you to agree of course.

Homophobic people are always incredibly
vocal, they don’t seem to mind letting the world know that they are both homophobic and stupid.

They are a product. Their entire method of making money is selling themselves. I'm sorry Jamie has ADHD and tinnitus and trauma and legionnaire's disease and hurty feet and a sore finger, and I'm sorry his wife has pumped her face full of badly-placed filler to the point she looks like a Mesoamerican head rolling around the place, but the point is, neither of them have any particular talent or skill, just selling themselves, their house, their baby.

I was a bit sniffy about the pair to be honest, but the more I see of them, the more I like.

I'm also aware that there are many people in the world that are better looking, younger and richer than me, but I manage to not bitch about it, unlike many pp on this thread.

I’m tempted to report the homophobia, but I’d rather it stayed. Just as a reminder for all the posters who think only older people have vile attitudes.

He just gives me the creeps not going to lie and the odd clip of him that has popped up on my tiktok he hasn’t seemed like a nice guy.

I’ve no idea on his wife can’t say id recognise her but hopefully it’s a nice happy marriage for the pair of them.

I’ve never seen them on Made in Chelsea, but they pop up on social media constantly. I think they seem like a very happy pair. On the surface they appear wildly mismatched but they’re clearly not. I love their self-deprecating sense of humour.

Famously, as well as “selling himself”, Jamie also founded and continues to run a highly successful confectionary brand.

What's with the 1950s attitudes to confident men on this feed?

My husband is far more camp than any gay men I know. So is his brother come to think of it. Both in heterosexual marriages.

I've met Jamie and it's a front, he's not as flamboyant on the radio

Great, I'm sure that's why he keeps getting hired for jobs he's hopeless at and unqualified for.

I don’t think you need to have any particular skill to be in a reality show. You do however need skill and business acumen in order to found and scale a successful business.

How’s your multi-million pound company doing?

Dh listens to their podcast and enjoys it. Made a slight clanger at the Boat race though!

No, he isn't gay. He's eccentric and can behave quite camp at time, but I don't think he's gay.

I haven’t seen it but I remember him being on Strictly. He wasn’t popular, I suspect largely because of the kind of reverse snobbery evident on here. He was in the dance-off multiple times and was unfailingly gracious, positive and polite about it. He also came across as very respectful of his partner, he worked hard and obviously enjoyed the dancing.
I had no idea who he was beforehand, but I respected him greatly for how he behaved. I don’t care if he’s more privileged than me.

Exactly this - thought we were years beyond this!

I’m not sure you need that much ‘acumen’ when you have the amount of money JL had at the time.

I watched what they shared on MiC when he set it up and found the whole thing gross. It went something along the lines of ‘ my bank manager has told me to stop spending money at the rate I am so I need to create a business. I want to sell sweets, but have really cute girls selling them who would be known as the candy kittens’ .
Him and some of the women on then held a ‘modelling casting’ to decide who would represent them, basically all sat round judging the models. It was very uncomfortable given none of them had any modelling experience and they just all came across as judgemental.

I’d like to think they’ve grown in the years that have passed but I’ve never seen any evidence of that and I’d like them to acknowledge how misogynistic they were at the time.

It does baffle me how people find them relatable. As pp have said, they’re merely a product who have no idea how most of us in the real world work.