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to think that the term "Bastard Children" is not and never will an acceptable way to talk

160 replies

ALMazing · 19/06/2008 11:08

about a child born out of wedlock.

Just wondering as another poster on Mumsnet seems to think that it is.

And I don t give a fark if I am telling tales. As a "bastard child" of the seventies it hit me hard that someone would still use that term especially on Mumsnet.

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mazzystar · 19/06/2008 11:12

on mumsnet?

fgs

not nice

beansprout · 19/06/2008 11:12

Ooh, blimey, I have one of those.

How odd.

beansprout · 19/06/2008 11:12

Is this the 1950's then?

ALMazing · 19/06/2008 11:13

Thats what I said in response to the post.

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sleepycat · 19/06/2008 11:13

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mazzystar · 19/06/2008 11:13

I had one too - was shocked at my wedding when he was 10 months old that people commented on making him legitimate.

Carmenere · 19/06/2008 11:15

Link please. Is there some way that this poster thinks it is amusing? Is s/he being self deprecating?

TigerFeet · 19/06/2008 11:16

How utterly old fashioned. What a nasty, pointless thing to say.

Which thread?

motherinferior · 19/06/2008 11:16

It's one of the reasons, in fact, I don't want to get married - I really don't want people to think it is somehow about making my darling daughters better.

SheikYerbouti · 19/06/2008 11:16

no, not acceptable.

I would be livid if someone spoke about my children like that.

Dragonbutter · 19/06/2008 11:17

This word was used to describe DS1 by his step-granddad when we announced our engagement. I do hope he was equally offended when i called him a C**t!

Carmenere · 19/06/2008 11:17

Does getting married un-bastardify your children?

EffiePerine · 19/06/2008 11:17

certianly not on MN. It is an historically accurate term though, so depends on context.

SheikYerbouti · 19/06/2008 11:17

agree wholeheartedly MI.

WilyWombat · 19/06/2008 11:17

Historically it was always used as mentioned...if used now as referring to a child then it is awful it is often used in another context these days too though isnt it i.e. not in relation to the parents marital status. Sorry I cant think of an example but I know I have heard it.

NooBee · 19/06/2008 11:18

Totally unacceptable and disgusting really.

EffiePerine · 19/06/2008 11:19

oh and children born outside of marriage are now included in Debrett's (or is it Burke's? one of the two) thus doubling DH's family's records

Dragonbutter · 19/06/2008 11:19

(i didn't really though, i just wish i had) I think the fact MIL threatened to leave him over it was enough for him to know it was totally unacceptable.

sleepycat · 19/06/2008 11:20

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TheMoistWorldOfSeptimusQuench · 19/06/2008 11:20

I saw that too, on the Big Brother thread. Horrible, offensive terminology.

When I was first pregnant, my mother had a tantrum over the fact that her grandchild would be a bastard, would inevitably be bullied at school, and how could she (mother) ever look her friends in the face again. I've never quite managed to forgive her for that

ALMazing · 19/06/2008 11:20

here

Poster responded saying it is still the current term for children born out of wedlock and she has a child who was three when she married. Sorry I still don t think it acceptable used in this context.

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charitygirl · 19/06/2008 11:21

As someone who is currently gestating just suuch a child, I find the term so unacceptable as to be hilarious (although totally understand why someone who had had it used against them would not find it so).

I would just dismiss anyone who used the term as definitely not my type.

fryalot · 19/06/2008 11:22

YANBU

tis old fashioned, nasty and unnecessary.

SaintGeorge · 19/06/2008 11:22

Not a nice term if levelled at a child or used as a slang insult.

I think you are overreacting to the post though.

I had already trawled the thread before you posted the link, so to save others the time:

Poster was referring to someone on BB:

"and if she is such a good muslim, i am quite sure the quoran does not advocate underage sex and bastard children"

DeeRiguer · 19/06/2008 11:23

big brother gawd so avoided it and glad for it

its from a thomas hardy novel innit...
this sort of thinking / terminology went out a long time ago,non?