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to think that the term "Bastard Children" is not and never will an acceptable way to talk

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ALMazing · 19/06/2008 11:08

about a child born out of wedlock.

Just wondering as another poster on Mumsnet seems to think that it is.

And I don t give a fark if I am telling tales. As a "bastard child" of the seventies it hit me hard that someone would still use that term especially on Mumsnet.

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Veraduckworthshandbag · 19/06/2008 11:42

OH FFS its a word, thats all a word.
ALMazing you need to get over yourself, instead of trying to be most PC mumsnetter of the morning.

Yes today having a chid without being married is seen as ok, so is having lots of children by lots of men and not being married to any of them.

I saw the other thread but did not think it was a big deal.

EffiePerine · 19/06/2008 11:44

well I don;t think language stops being offensive because it's used about someone you don't like or respect. I think most people would be uncomfortable (to say the least) about describing RL children in that way. So not sure why njm is offended at being pulled up over it.

ALMazing · 19/06/2008 11:44

I did post there first NJM and was very up front about what I thought of your post and two hours later you had not responded. So I posted here. I do think this is a subject worthy of discussion separately because to be honest you are not the only person I have known in my life who used that term. It means something personally to me and I have been thinking about it all morning.

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ALMazing · 19/06/2008 11:47

Being PC means jack to me Vera. Offended by the term and will continue to be. Its wrong to use it to describe any child in this day and age.

So it was said flippantly was it? Oh well thats ok then. Do you know maybe I could start making a few flippant remarks about race, sex and age on here and see where that gets me. What do you think?

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EffiePerine · 19/06/2008 11:48

For example, I discovered that referring to someone as a midget is really offensive to some people. Had no idea. Did I get offended that I'd hurt someone? Nope, jusy apologised and made mental note not to do it again.

It's called politeness and basic human kindness btw, not political correctness (ffs)

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ALMazing · 19/06/2008 11:50

But not horrendous to use the term "bastard children" in the first place.

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sleepycat · 19/06/2008 11:50

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Wezzle · 19/06/2008 11:51

I have 3 of these 'bastard', 'illegitimate', 'born out of wedlock' children and tbh I would be offended if they were labelled as any of these things.

There's just no need for it in this day and age.

notjustmom · 19/06/2008 11:52

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WilyWombat · 19/06/2008 11:54

not just...I dont have a PC sense of humour and as a result often make flippant comments and get into trouble on here

I just generally close the thread where I am getting a kicking from the angry literal people and forget about it...they of course carry on being angry about something else, its just how they are.

Sometimes I think "OK maybe I was in the wrong a bit" sometimes I just think "you folks are nutters" LOL

ALMazing · 19/06/2008 11:54

Someone asked for a link njm. It was about you because you said it and I read it here on Mumsnet. Should I have fibbed and said that I had heard it elsewhere? When you use the term "bastard children" you talk about me and a lot of children that I know. It is very personal to me.

If I said something like that I would fully expect to be pulled up about it.

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Dragonbutter · 19/06/2008 11:55

ALMazing, I think you are perfectly entitled to be upset as this word obviously cuts deep for you. I felt like this too when it was used to describe DS1 despite it being used as a 'joke'.

But in all fairness NJM has apologised and didn't mean any harm and is now upset too.
NJM, please don't read this thread as an anti-NJM thread. For me it was a discussion about the use of the term 'bastard children'. But i can see from you posts that this isn't your view but what you thought would be the view in a biblical sense.

seeker · 19/06/2008 11:55

Bizarre that anyone would take seriously anything said on a thread about Big Brother! The whole concept and execution of the programme is so offensive that there wouldn't be time in a normal lifetime to take offense at each individual offensive element!

And speaking as the mother of two children who are, I suppose, technically, bastards, I would rather the word wasn't used as an insult. But I would rather fuck and cunt weren't used as insults either. They are all words that have two meanings - the "proper" one and the swear word one. Sometimes it's important to distinguish between the two.

ALMazing · 19/06/2008 11:56

Then get on with them njm instead of posting about "bastard children" and then getting pissed off because someone doesnt like it and says so.

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whispywhisp · 19/06/2008 11:57

ALMazing - you've made your point - don't you think you can let it lie now? Why on earth start a new thread concerning a comment made on ANOTHER thread? What a horrible bitchy thing to do.

notjustmom · 19/06/2008 11:59

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Tortington · 19/06/2008 12:00

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