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Advice for DSS re access to baby post breakup...

141 replies

dontpokethemommabear · 04/04/2026 00:31

DSS 24 and his girlfriend have split up. Their baby is 4 months old. DSS has had to move home which is over an hour away from the baby and ex GF. He doesnt drive. But has support from parents/grandparents. Initially his ex said he could have baby saturday am to sunday pm EOW... now saying only this every three weeks.
Baby is bottle fed and DSS has been very involved from birth.
Can anyone advise how to move forward as 36 hours every three weeks is not enough contact time at all. DSS wants to see his baby as much as possible and there are no reasons why he shouldn't maintain the relationship.
He has parental responsibility and there are no other reasons why he shouldn't have access to his child.

OP posts:
Usernamechanging · 06/04/2026 12:25

Usernamechanging · 06/04/2026 12:22

Yes. Do a little research on attachment for babies. The first 12 months are crucial psychologically. After that, sure, look at what works. I am not a fan of 50/50 for many reasons but if a couple want that and make it work for the child then why not? But not the first 12 months.

And it would rarely be 50/50 given that women are usually on maternity leave at the 4 month mark. There are a lot of men who think they do 50/50 because they give a bottle of milk and change a nappy.

pruningmybush · 06/04/2026 12:26

Usernamechanging · 06/04/2026 12:04

At 4 months old, the baby needs a primary attachment. 50/50 is entirely unreasonable. And impossible at an hours drove away when relying on others to make the journey.

I would ask for mediation and if she won't do that then court. Be prepared for her to make stuff up to keep him away. He will need to be persistent. Working towards overnight contact by the 12 month mark would be reasonable then pushing for more as toddlerdom starts. Learn to drive and look at moving closer are sensible options.

Be prepared that she might not be making stuff up. I hate this assumption that that is was women do. My ex very much was abusive and if his friends and family decide to believe I was making it all up that is either naivety or pig headedness

pruningmybush · 06/04/2026 12:26

Usernamechanging · 06/04/2026 12:25

And it would rarely be 50/50 given that women are usually on maternity leave at the 4 month mark. There are a lot of men who think they do 50/50 because they give a bottle of milk and change a nappy.

And let's be clear, carrying a baby through pregnancy is definitely not a 50/50 enterprise

Usernamechanging · 06/04/2026 12:58

pruningmybush · 06/04/2026 12:26

Be prepared that she might not be making stuff up. I hate this assumption that that is was women do. My ex very much was abusive and if his friends and family decide to believe I was making it all up that is either naivety or pig headedness

People make stuff up. My ex came up with all sorts. He was stupid though and it was therefore easy to prove otherwise - stuff like I was postnatally depressed and refusing to take my medication. Health visitor wrote me a letter saying in her opinion there was no depression of any variety and that I had never been prescribed any medication. It is harder when it just he said, she said. Men and women are equally capable of lying to get whatever it is they want.

patooties · 06/04/2026 13:03

I think this young man is being enabled by the adults around him. He made a baby - upped and left, quit his job and we are on this thread trying to help someone else ‘deal’ with the problem he created. Ridiculous

NuffSaidSam · 06/04/2026 13:04

Usernamechanging · 06/04/2026 12:22

Yes. Do a little research on attachment for babies. The first 12 months are crucial psychologically. After that, sure, look at what works. I am not a fan of 50/50 for many reasons but if a couple want that and make it work for the child then why not? But not the first 12 months.

I'm well aware of attachment theory. That's how I know that two consistent caregivers is absolutely fine for a baby. In fact, it's ideal. All men should be aiming to be 50/50 caregivers to their small babies. It's the best case scenario for all involved. The first twelve months is the best time to introduce 50/50 care, it's much worse to force it upon an older child who doesn't have an equal bond with the second parent (because they weren't allowed to form one as an infant).

Mythoughtsalone · 06/04/2026 13:22

I am fed up hearing about parental alienation and single parents complaining about the other parent not wanting to take responsibility and being an active parent. And this is an example of what causes that to happen. He has every right to see his child. If the mother isn't prepared to compromise then I'd go down the legal route. A child can only benefit from having two involved parents.

patooties · 06/04/2026 13:23

Mythoughtsalone · 06/04/2026 13:22

I am fed up hearing about parental alienation and single parents complaining about the other parent not wanting to take responsibility and being an active parent. And this is an example of what causes that to happen. He has every right to see his child. If the mother isn't prepared to compromise then I'd go down the legal route. A child can only benefit from having two involved parents.

Is he supporting the child financially or emotionally now he’s quit his job, moved miles away and has no way of being on hand to help out?

RoseField1 · 06/04/2026 13:23

NuffSaidSam · 06/04/2026 13:04

I'm well aware of attachment theory. That's how I know that two consistent caregivers is absolutely fine for a baby. In fact, it's ideal. All men should be aiming to be 50/50 caregivers to their small babies. It's the best case scenario for all involved. The first twelve months is the best time to introduce 50/50 care, it's much worse to force it upon an older child who doesn't have an equal bond with the second parent (because they weren't allowed to form one as an infant).

If the baby is being shuttled between two caregivers then it's not consistent. 3.5 days apart from their main caregiver is too long for young babies. If the parents don't live together they can't both be main caregiver.

Usernamechanging · 06/04/2026 13:30

NuffSaidSam · 06/04/2026 13:04

I'm well aware of attachment theory. That's how I know that two consistent caregivers is absolutely fine for a baby. In fact, it's ideal. All men should be aiming to be 50/50 caregivers to their small babies. It's the best case scenario for all involved. The first twelve months is the best time to introduce 50/50 care, it's much worse to force it upon an older child who doesn't have an equal bond with the second parent (because they weren't allowed to form one as an infant).

No, you really aren't. There is a huge difference between sharing care under the same roof and being shuttle between two houses. Huge. And note the point about maternity leave.

Newusername0 · 06/04/2026 13:34

Baby is bottle fed and father has been involved from the start, it’s in baby’s interest to maintain a relationship. Tell him to get a court order and ask for 50:50 contact.

pruningmybush · 06/04/2026 17:03

Mythoughtsalone · 06/04/2026 13:22

I am fed up hearing about parental alienation and single parents complaining about the other parent not wanting to take responsibility and being an active parent. And this is an example of what causes that to happen. He has every right to see his child. If the mother isn't prepared to compromise then I'd go down the legal route. A child can only benefit from having two involved parents.

If he wanted to see his child regularly (in the "little and often " intervals that would benefit a baby) he shouldn't have moved an hour away! I don't know any mums who would do that.

ByPinkOP · 06/04/2026 18:45

Whenisitmyturntorest · 04/04/2026 12:32

Their recommended process is to coparent like two adults and sort it out between yourselves. Only when you've decided that the child is unfortunate enough to have an immature parent that cannot do that should mediation step in to be the middle ground. And only once it has been decided that a mediator cannot get through to the immature parent should a court step in to make a decision.

Edited

Utter nonsense.

RoseField1 · 06/04/2026 18:48

ByPinkOP · 06/04/2026 18:45

Utter nonsense.

This is literally the approach expected by the family courts. In what way is it nonsense?

sassyclassyandsmartassy · 06/04/2026 20:26

Madthings · 04/04/2026 12:42

Yes but first he should ask to do mediation with baby's mum.

Courts wont accept goung straight to this without having tried mediation snd they will provide a voucher to cover initial mediation sessions thrn its often done on a sliding scale by income.

When I did it we only had one mediation session and ex showed that he wasnt going to take it seriously so they then issued s certificate saying it needed court. Which I then had to show when I applied for c100 chokd arrangements.

This is a recent break up. You DSS must communice in email, text, politely focusing on best interests of baby at all times. No mud slinging, no personal atta ks keep it all child focused.

Offer his availability and say I can be flexible what works for the baby's routine and mum. Basically be super nice snd super child focused.

If communication is difficult you can suggest they use one of the court approved coparenting apps.

All of this will work in his favour.

Once every three weeks is not enough it needs to be little snd often something like 2 or 3 weekday sessions even if only short ie 3 hours, and one whole day each weekend. Every other weekend etc is not really suitable for a little baby who needs little and often contact.

What are both parents doing job wise? To try and work around that?

If DSS can facilitate 50 50 thrn thats great but he needs to move snd be closer for it to work well.

👆🏻 this.

when I first met DH his son was a year old and he would visit him for several hours three times a week at his maternal nans house (where they had all originally lived).

He steadily worked up to time away from mum over the next year and then from 2 years old overnights EOWE and so on.

This was the right thing to do for DSS, however, the only thing I think he would change is formalising a plan in writing. This would have stopped a lot of messing about and unnecessary bad feeling at times and would have been best sorted when DSS was too young to know or care anything about it.

Droplet789 · 06/04/2026 20:48

No way would I want my 4 month old being over an hour away from me, he should try to move closer so he can have more access during the day to help the mum out.

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