AIBU to hope this heartbreaking story is a catalyst for change?

[homemadecarrotsoup]

I hope this awful story underlines the need for specialist support for parents with disabled children. I work in a special school and have seen the struggles may parent face when it’s school holidays.

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Poor little girl and her family. And the childminder who I am sure is distraught. Just a really awful story and there are no winners or villains in it.

Very sad. I wonder what the full circumstances are though.

Feel for all involved

Yes I wonder too as it’s unclear. Apparently the mother requested that the CM didn’t take her out ?

The thing is, even if the mother did and the childminder ignored this I don’t think either of them really did anything wrong. I’m sure the childminder feels just terrible about it.

Seriously?! If a childminder has specifically been told to not take a child out and they do, then they absolutely have done something wrong. And when they do if they spectacularly fail to keep a child in their care safe then they definitely would have.

@Springandaprayer childminders aren’t nannies. She will probably have had other children in her care as well; besides, she may have been told not to take the child out but we don’t know what her answer was.

Any sort of group childcare is going to involve balancing the needs of the individuals involved, and most people who have used nurseries or childminders will be familiar with this.

Child minder should be done for manslaughter or at the very minimum neglect. The child was in her care and was non verbal so she should of been watching her better, specially if she was told not to take her out.

Clearly not this childminder as she let the poor girl die in her care. She should never be allowed to look after children again.

If she was explicitly told not to take the child out, she shouldn't have.

I see it a bit differently.

I think it was a tragic set of circumstances where the childminder didn’t foresee quite how high the girls needs were and didn’t know her well enough to gauge the level of risk.

The childminder did make it clear she was out a lot with the children. That’s not her fault; if I was using a childminder that’s one of the things I’d want.

The mother had to work and needed childcare.

So really what the little girl needed was specialist childcare, which is what I hope may happen as a result of this. I’m not blaming anyone; it’s just a horrible tragedy.

The childminder didn't have to take on the child if she didn't think she could care for her at the level needed.
You would have to be some sort of prized twat to not realise a non verbal autistic child is going to be very hard work.
She still took her on and then she died in her care due to the childminders neglect. She should be done for manslaughter.

I think there’s a lot of missing information in that article — it would be highly unusual for a childminder to have only a single child in her care, so presumably she and Nyla’s parents had had conversations about how to balance her need to be kept behind securely locked doors at all times with her other minders’ need to be outdoors sometimes?

Well I, and most people, definitely are blaming someone. And I'm concerned that you look after children with multiple needs each day and seem to think the care giver is absolved of guilt as long as they are sad about it afterwards?! If a parents asks you to provide care that you can't, or won't, provide, then you don't take their money. Safety is always the top priority.

She probably didn’t realise @LegencyMonsters .

I am sure there are things everyone would have done differently in retrospect but pointing the finger of blame doesn’t bring the little girl back. Nothing will of course. But some provision for specialist care would at least one good thing comes out of this horrible story.

@Springandaprayer it isn’t about being absolved of guilt. As far as I can gather, a childminder took some children out. I don’t know where she took them and I don’t know if there were instructions she didn’t follow. I just don’t think demonising her actually helps anyone.

'Didn't realise' isn't a good enough excuse when the child ended up dead @homemadecarrotsoup

The child escaped a house. Its a very sad story but its too early to blame anyone.

A local autism charity is now campaigning for specialist childcare for similar children. That is the step that needs to be taken.

You are ok with a childminder ignoring specific parental instructions without any discussion?

Who the hell chooses a childminder from Facebook , especially one with complex needs . I wouldn’t even employ a dog sitter via Facebook . We are so reliant on social media these days it seems common sense goes out the window . What a dreadful tragedy

The childminder was specifically asked not to take the child out, and the child is known to be an escape artist (even involving special measures put in the house)and yet the childminder still took her out. I know she would have never predicted the tragic consequences, but you still adhere to the parents wishes.

I am sure there are things everyone would have done differently in retrospect but pointing the finger of blame doesn’t bring the little girl back.

Well of course not, justice never brings anyone back from the dead.

But it can certainly provide a modicum of comfort for the parent.

It depends on what those instructions are wnd if they were actually given.

I would prefer the thread to stay respectful.

In fairness, parents often ask on our local Facebook groups for childminder and nursery recommendations. I think there aspect was embellished by the press.

The childminder made it clear she was out a lot with the children. The issue seems to have been around wrist straps.

I don’t know if there were instructions she didn’t follow.

Then you must be on some sort of wind up here with all the excuses you're making.

What the fuck. No it doesnt matter what the instructions are. If a parent requests they do not take the child out and the childminder agrees to this, then it is completely fucking unacceptable to TAKE THE CHILD OUT.

If the childminder could not do that due to other children then it is her responsibility to say that will not work and she cannot meet those requirements.