Six year old trans girl ‘tries to cut off her penis’ after Guide ban

[JonesTown]

Quite a disturbing article in this morning’s Observer regarding the impact of the Guides’ ban on trans girls following the Supreme Court ruling.

It reports on the experience of one six year old trans girl named Emily after hearing she could no longer attend Rainbows:

Emily’s parents decided to be honest with their daughter about the situation, and explained that she was no longer able to take part in Rainbows because she was trans. A few hours later Curt said they found her “sobbing in her room” and were “shocked” to find her holding a pair of plastic scissors to her penis.

AIBU to find this a distressing consequence of campaign by anti-trans activists or is it a natural result of allowing such young children to change their gender identity?

Now that is a sensible point. Why are the same activities not available in a mixed sex group? If activities are being split by sex so that kids of the "wrong" sex lose out that seems like something worth addressing.

But that's a different problem to "we should definitely split activities by sex, just my special kid gets to go with the opposite sex"

Which girl? The story is about a boy who tried to cut his penis off, not a girl.

Back at the end of the 60s, when we had our first child, I deliberately knitted or bought everything in white or pale yellow. No pre-natal scans back then. Even though I hadn't consciously though it through,I didn't like the idea of colour coding babies and young children.

You say your my child is ‘trans’ what does that mean to both you and your child?

How can your child have any objective sense of what it is to be the opposite sex?

There is no way of being a boy other than being born male and surviving.

There is no way of being a girl other than being born female and surviving.

We can talk about conforming or not to stereotypes until the cows come home but I’m afraid that childhood musings are no basis to permanently change a child’s life and potentially ruin their health and fertility.

I have every sympathy with your child’s distress and yes I do know people who say they are trans.

In your world, what is the difference between a boy and a girl? What is the purpose of having separate sports for boys and girls?

Why not? Why is a male person's assessment that they have an inner whatever-it-is that makes them a girl the only criterion that matters?

I mean, has anyone bothered asking all the [other/real, delete as appropriate according to your beliefs] women whether they actually even feel this whatever-it-is that they all apparently have? Or is the male's perspective on womanhood the be all and end all of the matter, so there can be nothing of value to learn talking to the [other/real] women?

I can’t decide if OP is a true believer or just trolling us now,

Both, I assume.

I made a connection between the username and the content but it got deleted.

Plenty of men believe their dignity is offended by women who do not display the subservience to which they believe their sex entitles them.

That is, bluntly, their issue. Women do not exist to serve men's egos.

He's used two seperate words, so changed the meaning. Place in Jamaica rather than the reference. Like the way they do with transwoman/ trans woman.

On another note, if one more person says that sex is assigned at birth, I am. GOING TO SCREAM! 😱

I do wonder why the op chose the moniker Jones town, Is it a nod to the original kool aid drinking cult?.

I see your 'sex assigned at birth'

and raise you - 'gender assigned at birth'

Even by their own logic, that makes no sense.

How can a 'gender' be assigned to a baby? How can a baby know its gender?

I haven't time to hunt it out now, but there was some lunatic arguing that babies pulling the poppers of their onesies was an indicator of baby 'trans ness'. Or pulling bows/slides out of their hair.

I will never understand how this nonsense was accepted by the powers that be.

It only makes any sort of sense if you accept that despite the oh but sex and gender are different things protesters the aim is to eradicate every single mention of the word sex in relation to males and female humans.

First is the winner. Because gender can be assigned at birth. Frilly dress on your daughter and tell her what a pretty princess she is, superhero romper on your boy and brag about him being 9lb so he's going to be big and strong, and jobs a good un.

AI tells me these are but 2 guilty parties in the UK, Im sure there are more but AI is getting all muddled up with the terminology itself!!

NHS Digital (Mental Health Services): The Mental Health Services Data Set (MHSDS) includes a mandatory data item called the "Gender Identity Same at Birth Indicator", which asks if a person's identity matches their "gender assigned at birth"

Public Health England (PHE): Uses the phrasing: "Is the patient's gender identity the same as their gender assigned at birth?" in certain clinical data collections.

They generally are, but non of those mixed sex groups valadate the parents actions in the same way as forcing a group to accept a male whose parents are pretending that he is a she.

Oh you're right I didnt think of that!

AI also thinks that 'sex assigned at birth' is functionally the same as 'gender assigned at birth'.

AI is an arse.

"Trans" is sexism, pure and simple.

I'm more than happy to be anti sexism. For a Feminist it's kind of table stakes.

No, a person fancying the same sex isn't somehow equivalent to the sexist and batshit belief that a "female" mind can be born in a male body.

That you even made that connection tells us a lot about how you see gay people though!

Accusations truly are confessions.

If that is what you genuinely believe, then it tells me many of the women you know are afraid to tell you what they really think.

AI probably doesn't know whether it's coming or going tbf. Gender is the same as sex when it comes to which toilet should be used. But is different from sex when it comes to deciding whether a women has a penis.

AI has been captured, it needs education

AI can't think and just works with language probabilities. It's not the authority on anything.