Missiles can reach UK say Iran

[Spinningnewbie]

Just heard this in live interview with Defence Secretary.
Apparently they can reach us in 4 hours.
Are they lying??

Well, that's a lot more than the actual number reported. And we could also mention the 30000 murdered by Iran of its own citizens. Or how many Arabs were murdered by Iran and its proxies in Syria?
But, if we want to bring Gaza into.ot, let's have a look at Irans role in 7/10 whcih was the event which precipitated the catastrophe in Gaza.
Imagine what Gaza would be like now if iran hadn't been desperate to prevent normalisation of ties between Saudi and Iran.

There seem to be so many “existential threats” these days. A cynic would say it’s paranoia at best and megalomania at worst.

So why not criticise Iran and what its done in the region? All the harm its caused?

Your posts ignore the torture, brutality and oppression by the IRGC on their own people. And the threat to the UK should they get the right weapons, they won’t return the favour of your support.

People who care about Gaza don’t have to pretend the Iranian people are not being murdered and oppressed by their own gov.

Ah yes we're all just imagining it. Let's follow starmer's very weak approach of sticking our heads firmly in the sand! That'll do it!

That doesn't even make any sense.
And, no, only Iran poses an existential threat to israel. It has stated its aims very clearly. They have taken steps to implement tbem.Why on earth would Israel not believe them.
It's not like Jews haven't learnt from history that if someone says they want to wipe you out, believe them.

We have essentially no air defence capable of shooting down an IRBM or ICBM.

Because that’s not why Israel and the US initiated this “war”. I won’t be the puppet of any regime I’m afraid.

But I thought Hamas posed an “existential threat”? And Lebanon. Syria. The UN etc etc. There just seem to be a lot of “existential threats” floating about these days.

Saying “No we won’t follow you into this war” is not sticking his head in the sand - it’s saying no to bullies and tyrants.

So you just want to bash the US and Israel without thinking about what Iran has done and intended to do because then you'd be a puppet.
This is just weird.
Have you ever thought about why there is conflict between iran and israel? Or would that be too difficult?

And your posts dismiss the torture, brutality and oppression that Israel consistently demonstrates towards its neighbours.

This thread is about the threat of Iran on the UK. There’s plenty of other threads on Gaza.

Oh wow. “Bash the US and Israel”? Really? God how many bootlickers do they need?

Yeah make sure the left hand isn’t concerned with what the right hand is doing. Usual tactic.

You're not the thread police. People can post what they want.

The main destabilising factor in the region is Israel and the US' warmongering.

Approaching 100000 people dead in Gaza. Mostly women and children. (source: https://www.bmj.com/content/392/bmj.s239). the single worst atrocity to have happened in my lifetime

No, you thought wrong. Hamas was and is a serious threat to israel and its civilians as shown by 7/10. But that's not exostential. I mean, they gave it their best genocidal shot but were not strong enough.
Same for Hezbollah in Lebanon and Syria.

You seem to be consuming a lot of propaganda, you should consider expanding your sources.

The IRGC won’t return any of this support you’re giving them. The U.K. is still their target.

Yes I can post what I want and it’s on the topic of the thread.

We're not bashing them. We're horrified and outraged by what they have done, while purporting to be our allies, with our government's support, using weapons we've supplied them.

Hamas, Hezbollah etc. are nutters too. We should be aiming to be better than them. We're failing horribly at the moment.

If gaza is the worst atrocity in your lifetime, you must be very young. And very telling too that on a thread about iranian missiles reaching the uk, you're so desperate to bring to back to gaza.

We could also look at the Iranian role in 7/10 and precipitating the gaza crisis to stop stabilisation in the region and prevent normalisation of ties between israel and Saudi but that would probably be a bit too uncomfortable

It is illegal because their use of force is a violation of Article 2(4) of the UN Charter and customary international law, both of which the US and Israel are bound by. Use of force in self defence is available for tightly defined reasons. A war started by countries who can't even articulate a clear (unchanging) reason for it, does not fit within the 'self defence' exception to the prohibition on the use of force. Many of the actions amount to war crimes (targeting civilans, children's schools, power plants) under the Geneva Conventions.

This is the system put in place after the second world war to "to save succeeding generations from the scourge of war, which twice in our lifetime has brought untold sorrow to mankind, and.." (UN Charter).

I think some of these useful idiots think the irgc actually care about Palestinians.

And so begin the personal attacks. It’s a simple playbook isn’t it?

Of course it is. Let me guess: another “existential threat”?