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Mumsnet race to the bottom

552 replies

limeandwater · 24/03/2026 09:15

I have noticed on MN there has been a real race to the bottom mentality. To be clear I am not talking about budget advice threads that can be incredibly helpful.

I am talking about the posters that think working people should be so accepting of a miserable life.

Again I am not talking about 5 star holidays in The Maldives, 26 plate Range Rovers, or shopping at Harrods Food Hall.

Somebody posts about the price of coffee then the response is to make your own and bring it with you. Somebody posts about the price of a cafe lunch on a family day out and the response is bring your own sandwiches. Somebody posted about the cost of running a car and the answer is cycle. Like that's realistic in a rainy December.

When did people get so accepting that life had to be miserable?

OP posts:
Solutionssought2026 · 25/03/2026 14:21

Cuttingthroughredtape · 25/03/2026 13:34

Yes life should bring you joy, you just have to live within your means. Increase hours,change jobs, move house. Whatever it takes.

Whatever it takes another line trotted out by those who have actually got absolutely no idea as to what it would take

Cuttingthroughredtape · 25/03/2026 15:06

Solutionssought2026 · 25/03/2026 14:21

Whatever it takes another line trotted out by those who have actually got absolutely no idea as to what it would take

I have been comfortable and poor and everything in between. I have experience of different socio economic positions so you are wrong.

PrincessofWells · 25/03/2026 15:08

BauhausOfEliott · 24/03/2026 17:13

Sometimes, though, it's really bloody depressing when a small avenue of pleasure is closed off to you. We all have small joys in our lives, and it's bloody miserable and annoying when they're taken away from us.

People are allowed to have a little vent about that, surely, without a bunch of sanctimonious bellends popping up to tell them that actually, their small joy was just a stupid extravagance that they should be ashamed of enjoying in the first place, and could easily be replaced with something they don't actually enjoy at all.

If people were saying 'God, Rolexes are so expensive these days, AIBU to think they should be affordable to me?' then yes, they'd be ridiculous. But sneering at someone for feeling a bit miserable that they can't afford the small pleasure of a coffee and a cake in a cafe with with their kids and implying that they're profligate oafs for even considering the idea is, frankly, just dickish.

But you are preaching to my generation some of whom didn't have heating in their homes, had two sets of clothes to their name and walked everywhere. So can you see how and why some people feel a bit pissed off that others are moaning they can't take out their family for a meal out or have to cut down on their coffees.

There is real poverty in this country and I honestly don't think many of the people who are struggling to find enough money to eat worry about their daily coffees.

dinbin · 25/03/2026 15:10

But you are preaching to my generation some of whom didn't have heating in their homes, had two sets of clothes to their name and walked everywhere. So can you see how and why some people feel a bit pissed off that others are moaning they can't take out their family for a meal out or have to cut down on their coffees

When was this? Wasn’t there any public transport?

PrincessofWells · 25/03/2026 15:15

We walked to the shops, we walked to school, we walked into town. Of course there was public transport but where did the bus fare come from?

Do try not to be so obtuse.

BIossomtoes · 25/03/2026 15:17

dinbin · 25/03/2026 15:10

But you are preaching to my generation some of whom didn't have heating in their homes, had two sets of clothes to their name and walked everywhere. So can you see how and why some people feel a bit pissed off that others are moaning they can't take out their family for a meal out or have to cut down on their coffees

When was this? Wasn’t there any public transport?

There was a bit of public transport where I lived in the late 80s but never at the right time and it was expensive. I walked to work every day and if I was lucky a colleague would give me a lift home. I walked to the supermarket for my weekly shop and caught the bus home with all my bags. I was far fitter in those days than at any point since.

NovemberMorn · 25/03/2026 15:17

dinbin · 25/03/2026 15:10

But you are preaching to my generation some of whom didn't have heating in their homes, had two sets of clothes to their name and walked everywhere. So can you see how and why some people feel a bit pissed off that others are moaning they can't take out their family for a meal out or have to cut down on their coffees

When was this? Wasn’t there any public transport?

There was always public transport, but I remember not even having bus fares, so walked where I needed to go.

I think a big difference now is, thanks to readily available global news, and of course the internet, people who have little are very aware of others who have lots, so not only does it hit home how poor some are, the fact we can all compare, can breed resentment.

Cuttingthroughredtape · 25/03/2026 15:21

dinbin · 25/03/2026 15:10

But you are preaching to my generation some of whom didn't have heating in their homes, had two sets of clothes to their name and walked everywhere. So can you see how and why some people feel a bit pissed off that others are moaning they can't take out their family for a meal out or have to cut down on their coffees

When was this? Wasn’t there any public transport?

This clearly shows how the younger generation are clueless about the levels of poverty the so called wealthy boomer and silent generations experienced. How did they better themselves, a 2 hour walk to work (each way) was normal and work was a 6 day week. Nowadays they jump in a car for a journey less than a mile.

I would be more than sympathetic to their plight if they endured real hardship rather than demonstrating pure entitlement.

BIossomtoes · 25/03/2026 15:23

A two hour walk to work was never normal. No wonder we get mocked.

Cuttingthroughredtape · 25/03/2026 15:24

BIossomtoes · 25/03/2026 15:23

A two hour walk to work was never normal. No wonder we get mocked.

It was. Granted if you walked quick it was an hour and a half.

ThatCyanCat · 25/03/2026 15:25

BIossomtoes · 25/03/2026 15:23

A two hour walk to work was never normal. No wonder we get mocked.

"'Ad to lick the road clean wi' our tongues..."

BIossomtoes · 25/03/2026 15:27

ThatCyanCat · 25/03/2026 15:25

"'Ad to lick the road clean wi' our tongues..."

Exactly. I hate it when people post ridiculous shit. Nobody I know ever walked two hours to work - and I’ve got a lot of life to look back on.

dinbin · 25/03/2026 15:30

This clearly shows how the younger generation are clueless about the levels of poverty the so called wealthy boomer and silent generations experienced

Can you not imagine a world in which a clueless younger (I’m not young) person has family who belonged to the boomer & silent generations?

How did they better themselves, a 2 hour walk to work (each way) was normal and work was a 6 day week

What a steaming pile of crap.😆😆

My ‘boomer” parents are immigrants from a (then) developing country & this wasn’t even the norm for them!

Cuttingthroughredtape · 25/03/2026 15:30

BIossomtoes · 25/03/2026 15:27

Exactly. I hate it when people post ridiculous shit. Nobody I know ever walked two hours to work - and I’ve got a lot of life to look back on.

How far back do you personally recall?

dinbin · 25/03/2026 15:30

BIossomtoes · 25/03/2026 15:23

A two hour walk to work was never normal. No wonder we get mocked.

It just makes any chance of reasonable debate pointless. Why lie?

BIossomtoes · 25/03/2026 15:31

Cuttingthroughredtape · 25/03/2026 15:30

How far back do you personally recall?

I was born in 1953 - you can work it out.

dinbin · 25/03/2026 15:33

@Cuttingthroughredtape when was it the norm for boomers to work 6 days a week with a 4 ht daily commute on foot?

Cuttingthroughredtape · 25/03/2026 15:34

dinbin · 25/03/2026 15:33

@Cuttingthroughredtape when was it the norm for boomers to work 6 days a week with a 4 ht daily commute on foot?

Go back further. I know of others who experienced the same. If you lived in a town your walk would have been shorter.

Cuttingthroughredtape · 25/03/2026 15:35

dinbin · 25/03/2026 15:33

@Cuttingthroughredtape when was it the norm for boomers to work 6 days a week with a 4 ht daily commute on foot?

Silent generation.

dinbin · 25/03/2026 15:36

Cuttingthroughredtape · 25/03/2026 15:34

Go back further. I know of others who experienced the same. If you lived in a town your walk would have been shorter.

But you said it was the norm for boomers?

Even the Victorians didn’t have long commutes.

NovemberMorn · 25/03/2026 15:37

BIossomtoes · 25/03/2026 15:31

I was born in 1953 - you can work it out.

Like you, I grew up in the 50's and 60's, and there was real poverty about.
Honestly I dont know anyone who walked for 2 hours to get to work, because back then most people I knew worked locally, but an hour walk (which I regularly did) was not unusual.
It was easier then because the majority of people in our neighbourhood were in the same boat, no one had money, we had not much knowledge of richer people, and even though my mum cleaned for a couple of well off families, we never actually compared ourselves to them, and their wealth was certainly not rammed down our throats as it seems to be in todays society.

I do think it's harder to be poor nowadays, I doubt I could cope like I did back then.

BIossomtoes · 25/03/2026 15:37

Cuttingthroughredtape · 25/03/2026 15:35

Silent generation.

My parents were born in 1916 and 1918. My dad never walked two hours in his life except on the golf course and my mum rode her bike everywhere. You’re talking absolute nonsense.

Cuttingthroughredtape · 25/03/2026 15:39

dinbin · 25/03/2026 15:36

But you said it was the norm for boomers?

Even the Victorians didn’t have long commutes.

It was for the early ones. Late boomers were born in 1964 so no doubt their experiences are considerably different.

dinbin · 25/03/2026 15:39

No it wasn’t

BIossomtoes · 25/03/2026 15:40

Cuttingthroughredtape · 25/03/2026 15:39

It was for the early ones. Late boomers were born in 1964 so no doubt their experiences are considerably different.

I’m an early boomer. 🤷‍♀️

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