Stag do plans and suspect abbreviations

[WestlieJ]

DP is joint best man for a close friends Wedding in early summer and the stag is abroad next month. DP sorted the logistics of booking, chasing everyone for payment etc (there is 16 people going). The other best man has put together a ‘plan’ for the long weekend and sent to DP for his approval.

I’ve seen this because it’s saved to iCloud and we can jointly access that through the iPad we share to watch Netflix etc.

It’s all fairly standard stuff, but the final section is titled ‘expected costs’ and lists things such as a beer, meal in restaurant, etc, to help people budget. Within this section there are abbreviations, which I’ve taken to be ‘dodgy’ given they are not written in full and one is fairly obviously a strip club, although no idea on ‘MP’.

Ive got it in front of me as took a photo so have written out exactly:

SC - Ent: €10-20 / PD: €50-70
MP - €50 / HR +€30 / OWO + €40 / PM,SO +€50 / FS €100

I have already asked DP who said he scanned over the main itinerary and didn’t even realise that last section was on there and has no idea what it means. He also said he never has and never will step foot in a strip club.

Am I being naive to think DP was unaware? And does anyone know what the last part means?

Jeez that was shocking. Entitled rapey abusive cunts leaving disgruntled whingey ‘reviews’ of the “service providers” they rape and abuse… If I ruled the world they would all be castrated.

I don’t think the OP can face the truth of this thread. 😬
Lots of advice, I hope some of it will be taken on board.

I'm out. The OP won't hear. No point posting any more

Your husband is a victim of lots of unfavourable circumstances. Poor him. I think this trip should be avoided for his own wellbeing. He has nothing in common with these degenerates at all.

No she forgot to put 'porn' in the title or this thread would already be crawling with them.

That's what I thought too. I laughed out loud of the other groomsman's thoughtfulnes! Cost of living crisis my arse!

The groom now knows but is casually condoning it. Your DP knows and is also casually condoning it.

This wouldn’t wash for me. I honestly would end it with my DP over this.

God almighty, the extent that we, as women, pretend to be dense and twist ourselves in pretzels not to see the obvious is crazy. Do we do this to avoid taking on their shame? Or because the idea of being alone is scary?

This guy is not a prize. He is very obviously no stranger to using sex workers as a leisure activity. If he wasn’t, he’d have zero to do with this event. OP, be clear sighted on this, your DP is lying to you and for whatever reason you don’t want to see the truth.

OWO= oral without = a blowjob without a condom...

STDs can be transmitted via oral sex
Massage parlours are more likely to have staff who are being trafficked

What a great start to a marriage this stag party is....Feel sorry for the wife of the groom-to-be. I wouldn't want to marry him if I were her.

Absolutely, and the women don’t have choice

Feeling quite sickened, especially after reading @L0V315 post.

Sounds grim from what people have said but I’ve also seen no reason for OP to not believe her DP from the posts. Other than classic MN all men are horrible bullshit. Benidorm is cheap place to go for a stag do piss up and as for people saying they’ve never seen a stag do planned in terms of money?! That’s insane, how do they all think people get there…just rock up to the airport? I’ve helped DH do a spreadsheet to sort the costs of a stag do in the past. It sounds like some of the people going are grade A idiots but that doesn’t make OP’s DP one.

£34 for a blow job. 34 measly pounds. Unbelievable.

With a man she won’t know. Using her. He might have poor hygiene, be sweaty and smelly…

So gross 🤢

You are either very naive or being willfully stupid to make this comment.

Can't be arsed to read beyond this. (page 12) Goodluck OP.

I know some women are totally cool with all this crap but surely your DP doesn’t want to go if this is what will be happening? If it’s happening enough to be on the list then I would assume he knew, but even if he didn’t surely he now doesn’t want to go somewhere where all the invitees have been given a prostitute / strip club price list like it’s a menu choice 🤮

It would be unusual for one person in a group
to say ‘no im not going in’. He might not go to a strip club on his own, and it might be he would never choose it, but I can’t imagine anyone staying in when the rest of the group has gone to the venues

Oh but it does. In fact it makes him an abuser. If you can stand by whilst others abuse vulnerable women and girls, you’re just the same.

Good fucking luck with your DP, OP. Although why you would stay with someone who is totally fine to be complicit in abusing women (and potentially girls) is beyond me. This is your decision point. And you side with the abuser… So easy to understand how Epstein happened. At best, people stand alongside this evil, at worse, they join in.

A lot of men expect women’s entertainment st a stag do, as a rite of passage

😔

Even if you weren't being ridiculously naive, which you are - the fact that he's still going 'knowing now' what kind of holiday it is doesn't give you any reason not to trust him?

Even if your husband is completely innocent, he's still going? I think the groom would surely understand him pulling out on his wife finding that its a sex tourism trip?

I'm so naive that I assumed it was the total still owed by each person and their initials? Probably because I don't want to believe men can be this crass and gross.

Sure, but are those men that any self respecting woman wants to be involved with?

‘Oral without’ is the new ‘cancel the check’. And they say MN has gone downhill in recent years!

From an 'ethics' perspective? You mean they'll only be using ethically soured, free-range prostitutes?

Honestly, OP I was with you until you said that and was willing to give your DH the benefit of the doubt. Now I just think you are naive.

He knows. I nearly split with my husband over dishonesty re strip club on stag do. No idea why they think its ok. Its so gross