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Stag do plans and suspect abbreviations

828 replies

WestlieJ · 24/03/2026 08:47

DP is joint best man for a close friends Wedding in early summer and the stag is abroad next month. DP sorted the logistics of booking, chasing everyone for payment etc (there is 16 people going). The other best man has put together a ‘plan’ for the long weekend and sent to DP for his approval.

I’ve seen this because it’s saved to iCloud and we can jointly access that through the iPad we share to watch Netflix etc.

It’s all fairly standard stuff, but the final section is titled ‘expected costs’ and lists things such as a beer, meal in restaurant, etc, to help people budget. Within this section there are abbreviations, which I’ve taken to be ‘dodgy’ given they are not written in full and one is fairly obviously a strip club, although no idea on ‘MP’.

Ive got it in front of me as took a photo so have written out exactly:

SC - Ent: €10-20 / PD: €50-70
MP - €50 / HR +€30 / OWO + €40 / PM,SO +€50 / FS €100

I have already asked DP who said he scanned over the main itinerary and didn’t even realise that last section was on there and has no idea what it means. He also said he never has and never will step foot in a strip club.

Am I being naive to think DP was unaware? And does anyone know what the last part means?

OP posts:
Gloriia · 24/03/2026 18:20

NotThisAgain1987 · 24/03/2026 18:14

Owo means oral without i.e no condom

We know. It's been clarified a few times now.

dadtoateen · 24/03/2026 18:21

L0V315 · 24/03/2026 18:10

Don't you just love it when a herd of men turn up on a thread where the thread has prostitution aka raped and abused women and spout shit? 🥱

Not quite sure about that, but if that’s what you want to believe then crack on.

Gloriia · 24/03/2026 18:22

L0V315 · 24/03/2026 18:10

Don't you just love it when a herd of men turn up on a thread where the thread has prostitution aka raped and abused women and spout shit? 🥱

Yep. Poor op's dp is just misunderstood. He's booked the accommodation only, sex tourism, exploiting and abusing women is all news to him!

Uglydumpling · 24/03/2026 18:23

LakieLady · 24/03/2026 14:17

Imo, no man who had any respect for women would get involved in this because of the objectification, exploitation and possible trafficking involved.

It would be a dealbreaker for me, I'm afraid.

Edited

Yes it’s blood hideous

a fucking price list circulated before - gross and so disrespectful and mysogenistic (can’t spell today!)

really don’t get why this is part of a weekend away - when you can have sex every day at home!

you are who you hang out with 🤮

of course they’ve discussed it!!! Your being so naive OP

Gloriia · 24/03/2026 18:25

dadtoateen · 24/03/2026 18:08

Gosh some people are so nasty on here and sooooo judgemental.

You keep looking at media reports and of course social media, we all know that is gospel what is posted…

not interested in temples either to be honest

'Gosh'?

What is so nasty and so judgemental to say pot bellied middle aged men do not go to Thailand for the temples?!

NoArmaniNoPunani · 24/03/2026 18:27

This thread is getting a bit 'cancel the cheque' now.

Uglydumpling · 24/03/2026 18:28

WestlieJ · 24/03/2026 15:01

It’s a cheap piss up in the sun - hardly renowned for being for sex tourists such as somewhere like Prague.

That whole idea is gross

gross group
of men giving home nation a bad reputation abroad - what the fuck is wrong with them

you are really niave OP - of course he could opt out - he wants to go

Uglydumpling · 24/03/2026 18:31

BarbiesDreamHome · 24/03/2026 16:41

Well they either get off on the women not wanting to do it, or they convince themselves they're a Sex God and the women love sex and money or they feel entitled as they've paid.

There was a recent newspaper piece about ex prostitutes who were unhappy that the men had left public reviews of them as they were no longer prostitutes and the comments were a depressing range of "well I paid" and "other men need to know if she's doing a shit job"

Omg hideous

trip advisor on exploiting women

Uglydumpling · 24/03/2026 18:32

wherearethesnacks · 24/03/2026 15:39

How very lucky you saw that list with abbreviations that he had completely missed. He could have been very shocked indeed when those other friends started paying for sex.

Now he'll be prepared with some good books on his Kindle when he wants to stay away from the nasty strip clubs.

😂😂😂

Uglydumpling · 24/03/2026 18:34

B1anche · 24/03/2026 15:45

Why would you want to be with someone who chooses to have friends like that? Why would he be different from the rest of the group? Surely he would spend his time with people he has more in common with.

Your husband must be thrilled he has such a gullible wife.

You can bet each and every one of them
is telling that story to their spouses..

”it wasn’t me” 🎵

Uglydumpling · 24/03/2026 18:35

MightyGoldBear · 24/03/2026 15:18

Where was his shock and horror? If he doesn't then decline to go on the stag himself then it would be over for me.
My husband did exactly that declined to go on a stag do to Amsterdam and actually stopped being friends with his childhood group of friends because he had zero in common with them happily buying access to women.

This!

it’s not ordinary blokes pp
My husband would be horrified

Uglydumpling · 24/03/2026 18:36

Wheelchairbarbie · 24/03/2026 15:13

Just because there's a menu, doesn't mean he's going to order off it

It’s that there is a Menu and he’s still going

a menu 🤮 sleaze city

NotThisAgain1987 · 24/03/2026 18:36

Uglydumpling · 24/03/2026 18:28

That whole idea is gross

gross group
of men giving home nation a bad reputation abroad - what the fuck is wrong with them

you are really niave OP - of course he could opt out - he wants to go

Edited

It's ok Brits abroad couldn't have a much worse reputation and it's Benidorm somewhere famous for a woman who pulls various items out of her vagina. I don't think a stag do going to strip clubs and pos brothels is going to panic the embassy

Uglydumpling · 24/03/2026 18:38

NotThisAgain1987 · 24/03/2026 18:36

It's ok Brits abroad couldn't have a much worse reputation and it's Benidorm somewhere famous for a woman who pulls various items out of her vagina. I don't think a stag do going to strip clubs and pos brothels is going to panic the embassy

Not worried about the embassy

just fucking horrified

let’s not all race to the bottom

SpidersAreShitheads · 24/03/2026 18:38

I think OP that you only know what your DP might engage in without your knowledge, or what he'd turn a blind eye to.

Objectively, it is a bit of a stretch to suggest that the group itinerary contains abbreviations and no one told your DH what they mean. He's been involved in the planning - but of course not the shady parts.... - but he hasn't looked at the itinerary or asked what the abbreviations mean? That's not really believable. The only way he wouldn't have to ask what the abbreviations meant was if there had been a discussion in the group chat. Either way, it's really hard to believe that he didn't know what was being planned.

Also, he tried to put you off the scent originally by suggesting it was a cost of living exercise. Nothing to see here, right?

Whether or not he would partake, only you would know. Or maybe not. Plenty of women are shocked at what their partners get up to when on the piss and away from home with male friends.

Ask him what he was planning on doing when the rest of the group head to a strip club or massage parlour halfway through the night. Go back to the hotel and sit on his own? Sounds unlikely.

I think very best scenario: he knew but was adamant he wouldn't partake. Worst case scenario: he's fully aware and happy to join in, to some degree. Neither is great, tbh.

Final point, you said: "If DP was up to no good he’d have ensured that it wasn’t visible in our shared iCloud." I think it's entirely possible that he'd have forgotten that documents would sync to your Cloud. Especially since he wasn't the one to add it to the group chat. More than one man has gotten caught out over a silly mistake.

CookingFatCat · 24/03/2026 18:41

I’d be thoroughly disgusted if my DP was so blasé about holidaying with men who create a shopping list for the single men or the ones that go to Thailand (nudge wink 🤮) to get their kicks.

This is apparently the acceptable explanation offered by the OP’s husband.

Men, it’s all about getting their cocks serviced because that’s the most important thing for them.

Edit - NAMALT - but still fail to call it out hey 😣

VWT7 · 24/03/2026 18:43

AnAppleAWeek · 24/03/2026 08:54

SC - Strip Club
Ent: - Entry
PD - Private dance
MP - Massage Parlour
HR - Hand relief
OWO - Oral with orgasim
FS - Full Sex

Do you think we could/should ask MNHQ to add these to the authorised list of MN acronyms? 😂

Trying to imagine an OP - “I asked DH for OWO but he wanted HJ and FS and asked me to dress up and pretend I work in a MP…”

InLoveWithAI · 24/03/2026 18:44

L0V315 · 24/03/2026 18:10

Don't you just love it when a herd of men turn up on a thread where the thread has prostitution aka raped and abused women and spout shit? 🥱

Exactly

tangtastico · 24/03/2026 18:52

WestlieJ · 24/03/2026 14:16

I spoke to DP on lunch. He strongly maintains he was none the wiser and hasn’t had contact with the other best man beyond the logistics of booking the trip and a couple of details re. the day itself and suit booking. He thinks the Groom (not in the group chat) will be equally unimpressed as he is and is going to mention this list to him.

As I said earlier, DP doesn’t know many of those going and thinks the other best man has included those details for the benefit of his 6 or 7 mates who are going of which a few are ‘single lads’ and another couple he knows are regulars in Thailand and make no secret of what they get upto.

If DP was up to no good he’d have ensured that it wasn’t visible in our shared iCloud.

A moral dilemma perhaps; but he isn’t going to let the Groom down and not go.

Well I for one can't wait for the grooms response - make sure you're around for that call.

WestlieJ · 24/03/2026 18:53

The Groom is aware, DP has shown me the messages they’ve exchanged this afternoon. He doesn’t approve but said he’s made clear he won’t be partaking so whatever anyone else wants to get upto is their choice.

He also said that from an ‘ethics’ perspective, the other best man sourced the details from an ex-pat working over there who is strictly independent.

OP posts:
RudolphTheReindeer · 24/03/2026 18:53

I missed the part about it being in a group chat, so presumably you can see the rest of the chat and see if your DP has been involved in any prior convos re this? Or has your DP made it so you can't see it now?

RudolphTheReindeer · 24/03/2026 18:55

WestlieJ · 24/03/2026 18:53

The Groom is aware, DP has shown me the messages they’ve exchanged this afternoon. He doesn’t approve but said he’s made clear he won’t be partaking so whatever anyone else wants to get upto is their choice.

He also said that from an ‘ethics’ perspective, the other best man sourced the details from an ex-pat working over there who is strictly independent.

I'm not sure what the last sentence is supposed to mean? 'Ethics perspective'???!

CookingFatCat · 24/03/2026 18:58

How does the source of the list address the ethics, it’s just saying he got the list from another sleazy guy. 🤷‍♀️

OPthefirst · 24/03/2026 19:00

Need to be very clear, OP. If you don’t have children with this man, I would seriously be reconsidering. My ex husband was exactly as your husband was - right down to horrified by how other men behaved on stage dos. He wouldn’t have even considered strip clubs. It transpired that he was, on every stage so, visiting strip clubs, sleeping with sex workers and harbouring a deep dislike of women who are not there to please him solely. I know you don’t want to believe this but the evidence is there, in black and white. If your husband wouldn’t entertain these things, he would not be entertaining this trip.

Gloriia · 24/03/2026 19:01

'He doesn’t approve but said he’s made clear he won’t be partaking so whatever anyone else wants to get upto is their choice.'

Yeah sure, they'll all be 'partaking'. Obviously.