Stag do plans and suspect abbreviations

[WestlieJ]

DP is joint best man for a close friends Wedding in early summer and the stag is abroad next month. DP sorted the logistics of booking, chasing everyone for payment etc (there is 16 people going). The other best man has put together a ‘plan’ for the long weekend and sent to DP for his approval.

I’ve seen this because it’s saved to iCloud and we can jointly access that through the iPad we share to watch Netflix etc.

It’s all fairly standard stuff, but the final section is titled ‘expected costs’ and lists things such as a beer, meal in restaurant, etc, to help people budget. Within this section there are abbreviations, which I’ve taken to be ‘dodgy’ given they are not written in full and one is fairly obviously a strip club, although no idea on ‘MP’.

Ive got it in front of me as took a photo so have written out exactly:

SC - Ent: €10-20 / PD: €50-70
MP - €50 / HR +€30 / OWO + €40 / PM,SO +€50 / FS €100

I have already asked DP who said he scanned over the main itinerary and didn’t even realise that last section was on there and has no idea what it means. He also said he never has and never will step foot in a strip club.

Am I being naive to think DP was unaware? And does anyone know what the last part means?

You are. You’ve tied yourself in knots to give this bloke a get out 😂

Really think that the joint best man is going to have a change of heart at the top of the stairs? Come. On.

I think the other wives and partners have the right to know what the sleazy men are planning, tbh.

I wouldn't want to marry anyone who was planning a weekend like that and thought it was ok.

Ah factoring strippers and prostitutes into a budget during a cost of living crisis.

So overlooked! He's dead right!
The media only concentrate on oil, food and accommodation really.

What a blindspot. I really hope the Daily Mail or someone does an educational piece on how to make the numbers work before they go on the stag do!

No, I really haven't.

No idea what he might do, I don't know him, i'm not him so I can't answer that.

Not quite...

OWO is oral without condom

YUCK

So you think there’s a minimal chance that he doesn’t know every abbreviation on that sex shopping list. Yet you’ve still given it “dare I say it, it could be the truth”. No it’s not and you know it. You said it, yet you’ve still given still give her that “minimal” hope to cling to. She’ll see your points as more valid because you’re a man.

And yes, he obviously thinks she’s thick otherwise he’d never have dared with the cost of living shit. This “considerate” guy has priced up how much it takes to get oral without a condom with a trafficked woman in Benners because he’s worried about them losing out on the exchange rate on their return?

You’ve seriously got to assume someone is thick to believe that. For a start, why are they taking so much cash they’d need to change it back? Who changes euros anyway? Just keep them for next time. And pretty much everyone uses Monzo etc now anyway. Unless they’re going something they shouldn’t. Obvs.

I spoke to DP on lunch. He strongly maintains he was none the wiser and hasn’t had contact with the other best man beyond the logistics of booking the trip and a couple of details re. the day itself and suit booking. He thinks the Groom (not in the group chat) will be equally unimpressed as he is and is going to mention this list to him.

As I said earlier, DP doesn’t know many of those going and thinks the other best man has included those details for the benefit of his 6 or 7 mates who are going of which a few are ‘single lads’ and another couple he knows are regulars in Thailand and make no secret of what they get upto.

If DP was up to no good he’d have ensured that it wasn’t visible in our shared iCloud.

A moral dilemma perhaps; but he isn’t going to let the Groom down and not go.

Imo, no man who had any respect for women would get involved in this because of the objectification, exploitation and possible trafficking involved.

It would be a dealbreaker for me, I'm afraid.

🤣🤣🤣

Ah factoring strippers and prostitutes into a budget during a cost of living crisis.
So overlooked! He's dead right!

So thoughtful! If only they could save money by not going abroad and using prostitutes.

Still, at least those partaking might now look at the costings spreadsheet and decide to forgo a few beers and a curry and use the money to tip those nice sex workers before putting a little extra into the family savings pot. Everyone wins.

I think you’re being dangerously naive. If your husband and groom was so appalled, they’d cancel (or refuse to go to Benidorm on the Stag in the first place).

None of us know him obviously but if he has a list of services from sex workers provided on a trip they are going on it gives a teensy bit of an insight, no?

I wonder how many men reading this are frantically deleting icloud crap..

'If DP was up to no good he’d have ensured that it wasn’t visible in our shared iCloud'

Yes he won't make that mistake again will he.

another couple he knows are regulars in Thailand and make no secret of what they get upto.

I have no words 🤢

Sorry but why tell the groom? As co best man, it's his job to sheild him from this stuff.

the groom is friends with these men, enough so that they are paying to fly abroard to celebrate his marriage, so he knows what they are like.

Your partner is telling you he is now heroically putting himself out to go on a trip he is uncomfrotable with so as not to let the groom down. Rather than saying the groom doesnt want thst sort of holiday or saying he diesnt condone sex trafficking and doesnt want to be a part of it. Or trying to organise something else for the groom who supposedly doesn't want this stuff either.

Next he will be telling you that he and the groom will go elsewhere that night.

'As I said earlier, DP doesn’t know many of those going and thinks the other best man has included those details for the benefit of his 6 or 7 mates who are going of which a few are ‘single lads’ and another couple he knows are regulars in Thailand and make no secret of what they get upto.'

Oh op wake up and ditch this sleazeball. Details included for the 'single lads' It'd just be hilarious if it wasn't so pathetic.

DP didn’t write/provide the list.

OK, my experience.

I went on a stag do and was surprised at the blokes that were up for this. Going to a lapdancing club is far from ' a bit of a laugh' in reality.

The one we went to seemed to be staffed by tired looking Eater European girls. The clear implication was that a lot more was on offer than a lap dance.

A few blokes had a private dance. I was pretty scared and worried about being mugged so left with another bloke.

As for that group chat with a price list, if you want to go down the ' Not my Nigel' route then that's up to you, but not one bloke I know would even think about being a friendship group that even posted a price list for a brothel ' as a joke'. That is clearly researched with intent to take part.

He's keeping some pretty dodgy company there, and you have been given your red flag. Take notice of it.

I genuinely wish you all the best in the world.

Any man who would socialise with men who go to Thailand, strip clubs etc whether married or not would be in the B1N for me

He didn't make the list though did he? T'was someone else.

Gives an insight to the guy that wrote the list for sure

Amd if half my mates were sex tourists and i didnt agree with it, there's no way as a groom that I'd have accepted a proposal of a lads tour in Benidorm.

I'd be heading it off.

'Next he will be telling you that he and the groom will go elsewhere that night'

Yes the groom and the best men will be having cocoa and playing trivial pursuit whislt those naughty single lads will be out getting wanks and 'owo 'etc wtc with sexworkers. The ones who frequent Thailand will be able to show them the ropes 🤮.

He is involved op, he knows. He's cocked up by not keeping it hidden in a secure folder.

Wow he’s a real martyr. Up there with Jesus Christ himself. Please ensure you get a full panel STI test after he gets back and he should probably also get one. My sister got clap after her ex went on a stag and it really added insult to injury.

Exactly. And given there are 10+ of them planning to go, 7 of which are up for this sort of stuff, the groom won't miss the one person with a conscious stepping back...