Ambulances Set on Fire in Suspected Anti Jewish Attack

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Horrible news that ambulances run by a Jewish charity have been set on fire in Golders Green today.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwyj1p49gdpo

AIBU to feel it's got to to with the rise in anti Jewish hate since the allowance of horrible slogans on the weekly marches and in everyday society? What on earth makes people commit such a horrible attack.

I'm 100% with the Jewish community and pray for peace.

The Green Party hold such extreme views these days they are as bad as Reform in being a party those of a moderate persuasion would never dream of voting for.

I know. I am so concerned about the environment and climate change, but I can't possibly vote Green again.

You know who's pulling their strings. The Greens are stupid, naive cucks.

There is a dad at my DC's school who proudly wears a Green Party badge and it makes me feel sick. Horseshoe theory Reform, but no one speaks against it

Same ... there are a lot of us out there who find ourselves politically homeless.

Yes, Germany admired a lot that was Britain; Hitler had plans to live in Blenheim Palace and ordered that no bombs should be dropped on Oxford or Cambridge.

Iran et al have no sentimentality towards the West. It is a theocracy. We are in its opinion a load of infidels to be obliterated. We are of no value.

The Blitz lasted for eight months and five days.
Key Dates

• Start Date: September 7, 1940
• End Date: May 11, 1941

Overview The Blitz was a sustained bombing campaign conducted by Nazi Germany against the United Kingdom during World War II. It primarily targeted major cities, with London being the most affected. The campaign aimed to destroy British morale and disrupt war production but ultimately failed to achieve its objectives.

Yes -I suppose bombing every night for 8 months and five days killing hundreds of thousands was the Germans actually being friendly
No idea why we went to war with them

I think some overlook how we’re viewed.

I have an election in May (in Scotland) and I keep looking at the options and just being confused. There's no one I can vote for but I can't just not vote surely.

Apart from some of the useful fools who happily do their work for them.

No doubt some people would think that the UK's retaliation was "out of proportion".

Which Guardian article are you referring to specifically? There were several about yesterday’s attack.
I think it’s not really surprising that a synagogue would have strong links to the only Jewish state.
Which of the Israeli actions in Gaza did it support?
Speaking of support for actions, there were people across the world celebrating what happened on October 7th. Did Jews take it upon themselves to launch attacks on those people because they were showing support for Hamas?

And Hamas first attacked Israel in 1989 so yes - horrible things happen on and on and on and people retaliate and then escalate. War is terrible but the only way a war has ever ended is to make it not worth it for the other side to continue. I again can't see what else Israel is meant to do in this situation, they've been fighting with Hamas for decades now.

46,000 British people died in the Blitz and 300,000+ Germans died in retaliation. Horrible and terrible and depressing and awful for everyone involved and generations after. But I'd be hard pressed to say that the UK should have had a proportional response and stop bombing when 46,000 people died in Germany - beating Hitler was the absolute focus and they kept going until that happened (I know it's more complicated than this, but still that was the inherent goal)

Well said. Particularly that Egypt closed its borders and refused either aid or refugees. The refusal of aid in particular was despicable.

There has never been a Jewish terrorist attack here in the UK as far as I know. British Jews, with the exception of the Ultra Orthodox, (like German Jews before them) have assimilated completely into the British way of life ever since Cromwell allowed them to return here in 1656. My paternal grandmother could trace her antecedents back to that very date. My maternal grandmother died in a concentration camp. And still many people today wonder why the Jewish community here is worried about their future.

I wish there was a laugh emoji
By the time the nuclear bomb was dropped japan was in no fit state to do that. It's resources were decimated.

Re The Guardian I'm afraid I don't trust their articles dealing with anything about Jewish people. As recently as last week an article written by one of their sports writers focused upon the opening of a Gails bakery close to a Palestinian cafe. It was a blatantly anti semitic piece approved by a number of editors before publication. The few Jewish Guardian journalists who remain on the paper complained a bout it, to no avail.

That article was disgusting.
Gails was started by an Israeli but it’s not owned by him anymore so it has nothing to do with Israel or Jews.

I know where it is, in a very mixed area so there are bound to be different types of cafes catering for different types of customer/ethnicity. If a Palestine place is triggered by a Gail’s then I fear for society.

My friend purposely went to that Gail’s even though it’s a bus ride away, to support them. Unf I can’t eat their offerings otherwise I would too.

Me too.

I’ll vote for whoever keeps the Reform and Green candidates out.

Yep, politically homeless here too

It is worrying. Not a Party I could vote for.

I am going to handle your mockery as if you had made a valid point.

One of Japan's original war aims was the conquest of Australia. Yes, by the time the nuclear bombs were dropped Japan had no hope of doing that.
And edited to add, I note you don't address what Japan was like as a conquering nation.

However, the country was still fighting. The capture of Okinawa cost around 50k US soldier's lives - and around 100k Japanese military casualties and about the same again in civilian lives. Japan planned to go down fighting like this, and it was to avoid such battles that the bombs were dropped. They were terrible things, but on balance, the likelihood is that they saved lives, both military and civilian.

Added to those considerations, several populations under Japanese control across Asia were suffering from famine, and the death rate was in the thousands per day. Orders had been sent out to kill all POWs of the Japanese.

Even when the Japanese cabinet was considering surrender, there was an attempt at an internal coup by a diehard faction who didn't want that outcome.

If you have indeed 'studied' WWII, as you claimed upthread, you should be familiar with some of this.

I disagree with you that it was necessary. Like I said, I'm not the only person who feels like this. For every statement you make there is a counter argument so let's just say I disagree with you.
Back to the op.
Yabu op. The attack was not due to allowing slogans. It was due to the actions of the Israel government which I find wholly disproportionate hence my further comments.

It was an antisemitic attack.
I don't know why people still minimise or excuse this.
The people responsible are the three people who decided to burn out charity ambulances.
They're responsible.

That the funniest part of it. People keeping kosher won’t go to Gail’s so hardcore Zionism at chain coffee shop…