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Watch this argument with me

220 replies

Motherflubber · 22/03/2026 20:03

I’m eating alone in a very small restaurant in a very small town and there’s a very small woman absolutely laying in to her dining partner who is resolutely refusing to react.

She’s in her mid-60’s I’d say. Her dining partner looks a similar age, he’s probably late 60’s although looks younger because he’s got that lanky teenage frame and posture about him. He’s deathly calm in the face of her fury.

Anyway, she’s fuming. It started about 20 minutes ago with a furiously whispered ‘well it’s just like it was in millets PHILLIP’. The ‘Phillip’ was spat with such venom I winced from across the room. There’s only them, me and another table here.

From what I can gather, Phillip has a long held opinion on something and as a result, doesn’t want to buy something that this lady would like to purchase. She says she will buy it for herself and Phillip has calmly said ‘that’s fine if you want to, I don’t mind you having one but I won’t be using it’. He’s eating a burger and switched from eating with a knife and fork to picking the whole thing up in his hands - this infuriated the woman further and she said that sort of behaviour was exactly why she can’t have him coming to Mark and Fiona’s next week. He didn’t reply to that and that also seems to have annoyed this woman even more. She has finished her main course but keeps picking up her cutlery and putting it down again like she’s stuck for something to do.

Phillip has attempted to change the subject a few times but she can’t let this go. They’ve not said what the thing is but my first thought was an electric car maybe? She wants one but he doesn’t? Whatever it is has clearly been boiling her piss for a while because she’s absolutely hopping mad that he won’t agree to use one of whatever it is. I’m also dying to know what happened in Millets.

Also yes I’m eavesdropping, although given the space is tiny and they’re feet away from me, I’d hear what was happening whether I was trying to hear it or not. It is indeed none of my business and if you need to tell me off to feel morally superior then please do go ahead. If you’re a people watcher though, come and speculate with me Grin

OP posts:
RegalDiamondMonster · 23/03/2026 14:47

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 23/03/2026 14:13

I am only asking as I was taught being nosey was rude. I’m also AuDHD so tend to stick to ‘the rules’

There's an art to people watching. If you were too obvious i.e. staring at them like they were a tv show, that would be rude. Technically eavesdropping isn't 'polite' but you can overhear the best things (see the OP). As long as you do it unobtrusively.

Obviously I don't do it everywhere I go, it's normally waiting for a friend in a restaurant, waiting for the bus alone etc. I assume people also listen to my conversations!

I'm almost certainly ruder when instead of people-watching I'm trying to read my book on the train and get irrationally grumpy and scowly with people around me having perfectly respectably-volumed conversations.

ZeldaFighter · 23/03/2026 15:12

Hecatoncheires · 23/03/2026 10:16

@Mumofmarauders Couldn’t agree with you more. Not a hint of malice in anything that @Motherflubber has written in this very sweet and entertaining thread. Funny thing is, my FIL is called Phillip and dare I confess that I’m Fiona… OP, thank you for making me smile today. Wishing you peace from your heartache and all good things ahead.

Do you have a Mark? And is Phillip married to Judith??? Or is it too much to hope for?

CaptainMyCaptain · 23/03/2026 15:16

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 23/03/2026 13:43

Oh I like fiction but you are seeing a tiny snapshot and I can’t understand why that would be interesting. Do you listen in as well?

Where do you think writers like Alan Bennet or Barbara Pym get their ideas from if not this kind of thing?

TerrificEchidnaSpikes · 23/03/2026 15:23

Goodness, what's with all the deletions? Confused

365RubyRed · 23/03/2026 15:48

TerrificEchidnaSpikes · 23/03/2026 15:23

Goodness, what's with all the deletions? Confused

They are all posts by the same person, so I am assuming they are either Phillip or Judith and are offended at their argumentative conversation being reported on.

CaptainMyCaptain · 23/03/2026 15:52

365RubyRed · 23/03/2026 15:48

They are all posts by the same person, so I am assuming they are either Phillip or Judith and are offended at their argumentative conversation being reported on.

I'm sure the same person also has several deleted posts on another thread.

I can't find the other thread now so maybe it imagined it. Ignore me

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 23/03/2026 15:59

TerrificEchidnaSpikes · 23/03/2026 15:23

Goodness, what's with all the deletions? Confused

The poster was repeatedly having a go at me - I didn’t report the posts but apparently someone did!

bachems · 23/03/2026 16:12

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 23/03/2026 14:13

I am only asking as I was taught being nosey was rude. I’m also AuDHD so tend to stick to ‘the rules’

I am incredibly nosy but I guess it isn't a black and white thing, sometimes you don't listen because you sense that what is being said is meant to be private, or because you sense you'd make someone uncomfortable, or sometimes you don't want to listen if you can predict where something is going and you don't want to go there. But in all other aspects people watching is just that, we are hard wired to be parts of a community and so being interested in other people is normal, enjoying the ride, rich tapestry of life and all that, I think.

Just like how you have been taught things is fine too, there isn't one way of doing things. Staring and making people uncomfortable would be rude, or invading someone's privacy, or making it clear you are judging, I'd agree with that being considered rude.

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 23/03/2026 16:20

I think the deletions are from a PBP.
They have lots of deletions elsewhere today.

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 23/03/2026 18:35

bachems · 23/03/2026 16:12

I am incredibly nosy but I guess it isn't a black and white thing, sometimes you don't listen because you sense that what is being said is meant to be private, or because you sense you'd make someone uncomfortable, or sometimes you don't want to listen if you can predict where something is going and you don't want to go there. But in all other aspects people watching is just that, we are hard wired to be parts of a community and so being interested in other people is normal, enjoying the ride, rich tapestry of life and all that, I think.

Just like how you have been taught things is fine too, there isn't one way of doing things. Staring and making people uncomfortable would be rude, or invading someone's privacy, or making it clear you are judging, I'd agree with that being considered rude.

Edited

Fair enough - The thing is, sometimes I do have to go out in public and the idea that someone is watching or listening because they find it entertaining bothers me.

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 23/03/2026 18:36

bachems · 23/03/2026 16:12

I am incredibly nosy but I guess it isn't a black and white thing, sometimes you don't listen because you sense that what is being said is meant to be private, or because you sense you'd make someone uncomfortable, or sometimes you don't want to listen if you can predict where something is going and you don't want to go there. But in all other aspects people watching is just that, we are hard wired to be parts of a community and so being interested in other people is normal, enjoying the ride, rich tapestry of life and all that, I think.

Just like how you have been taught things is fine too, there isn't one way of doing things. Staring and making people uncomfortable would be rude, or invading someone's privacy, or making it clear you are judging, I'd agree with that being considered rude.

Edited

Plus I like to be on the safe side - it is not rude to keep yourself to yourself and not watch/listen!

CaptainMyCaptain · 23/03/2026 19:17

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 23/03/2026 16:20

I think the deletions are from a PBP.
They have lots of deletions elsewhere today.

I wasn't imagining it then.

LHP118 · 23/03/2026 19:46

Morepositivemum · 22/03/2026 20:23

He said she needed one and he doesn’t? I can get her level of anger so!!!!

He may NEED to NOT hear for an obvious reason.

Once she gets her aids, she might lower her volume....and he'll need them (or not) then!

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 23/03/2026 19:57

CaptainMyCaptain · 23/03/2026 19:17

I wasn't imagining it then.

They were personal attacks

CaptainMyCaptain · 23/03/2026 20:23

LHP118 · 23/03/2026 19:46

He may NEED to NOT hear for an obvious reason.

Once she gets her aids, she might lower her volume....and he'll need them (or not) then!

Hearing aids aren't just about volume. They are about clarity.

Woodfiresareamazing · 23/03/2026 20:44

CaptainMyCaptain · 23/03/2026 15:52

I'm sure the same person also has several deleted posts on another thread.

I can't find the other thread now so maybe it imagined it. Ignore me

Edited

I think I've seen those too, but i can't remember where ...

ForeverTheOptomist · 25/03/2026 16:15

What's a PBP?

StrictlyAFemaleFemale · 25/03/2026 21:52

ForeverTheOptomist · 25/03/2026 16:15

What's a PBP?

Previously banned poster

JohnTheRevelator · 25/03/2026 22:24

Oh I do love a good public row! My DD says I'm just extremely nosy though. 😂

MyGhastIsFlabbered · 26/03/2026 09:38

i was in Tesco earlier and there was a woman and a teenage girl and the woman was hissing through her teeth ‘just get here and choose some fucking knickers’ I smiled sympathetically at the mum but was thinking of this thread

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