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AIBU to be livid at kitchen fitter for pissing all over my bathroom like a bloody tomcat?

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MurkyMo · 20/03/2026 08:25

AIBU to be absolutely livid that my kitchen fitter pisses all over the toilet and the floor every time he uses the facilities. He must have a "sprinkle-cock" Fireman Sam would be proud of. And not only that, he flushes without putting down the lid of the toilet so aerosols of his piss float through the air coating the immediate area around the loo. Every time he goes in there my whole body tenses and I have to go in after him to mop up the worst of what's on the floor so it doesn't get traipsed through the house. I have carpet ! ! ! ! ! And I know I'll be scrubbing away as soon as he leaves this evening.

My BP is up and it's only day 2 ! Oh god I could swing for him!!!

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Wednesdaytoday · 20/03/2026 12:13

ThisOneLife · 20/03/2026 10:29

“invalid”?

Rubber fingers and autocorrect. Should have read incapable.

Blueyrocks · 20/03/2026 13:15

BrickBiscuit · 20/03/2026 11:04

How are clients supposed to know which they are before letting them use their toilet? How can they tell whether they will leave piss or shit all over the place or leave it clean?
ETA: perhaps that's the answer - have it on their logo or branding. And agree, your DBs have been let down by their peers.

Edited

You can't tell. You just give everyone the same treatment, ie access to the toilet while they're in your home. And if they leave it in a mess, then respond however you think necessary. The vast majority of men, even tradesmen 😮, know how to use a toilet properly.

Blueyrocks · 20/03/2026 13:24

Badbadbunny · 20/03/2026 10:29

I agree. My DH has cancer and is immuno-compromised. I started saying "no" to tradesmen using our loo in the aftermath of Covid, when there was genuine reason and people were used to there not being a "free for all". I still do it.

If someone is here for a quick job, i.e. boiler service, or carpet fitting, I tell them where the nearest public loo is, the moment they walk in the door, so they are under no illusions, and can "plan" if they think they're going to need the loo, rather than end up desperate. There are a few options, all within a few minutes drive of our house, so it's not as if they have to drive miles.

For longer jobs, i.e. a kitchen fitting, external decorating, etc., when they come to quote, I tell them to include a portaloo in the quote. They're pretty cheap really for daily hire.

We had a few awful instances in the past - one neanderthal workman used our towel to wipe his arse, so it was covered in shit. Another actually stood on our loo seat in muddy/oily boots leaving marks/stains I couldn't remove. And another left bits of shit on the wall beside the loo and all over the floor. Some of them are barely better than animals. A bit of wee sprinkling sounds tame by comparison. These guys weren't "cheap and nasty" workers either, they were local/reputable firms that were well known.

We've had 40 years of living in our house, so although such disgusting events don't happen often, we've been here so long, and had so much done (3 new bathrooms, 2 new kitchens, outside decorating 3 or 4 times, new roof, central heating replaced, re-wiring, etc etc), that we've had a lot of workmen in the house over many years.

"Some of them are barely better than animals" - some of who? I don't think this is an ok thing to say tbh.

Badbadbunny · 20/03/2026 13:33

Blueyrocks · 20/03/2026 13:24

"Some of them are barely better than animals" - some of who? I don't think this is an ok thing to say tbh.

When you've had a tradesmen use your towel for wiping his arse and leaving it covered in shit, or another has clearly stood on your loo seat with oily/muddy boots leaving stains/marks impossible to remove, then, yes, those people ARE barely better than animals.

Funny how the financial advisers, solicitors, and even double glazing/kitchen salesmen who we've had in our house and used our loo didn't leave any kind of mess behind!

Yes, it's probably an unfair generalisation about tradesmen, but it's my experiences. And it's my bathroom, so I'll impose whatever rules or restrictions I want to preserve my property and belongings. If they don't like it, then tough! I make it clear from the start, so no surprises for them. Public toilets available within a few minutes, and they'd probably go there for their mid morning bacon bun or lunch anyway, so probably not even an extra journey! As I've said, for bigger jobs, I tell them to cost in a portaloo when they come to quote for the job.

Blueyrocks · 20/03/2026 14:00

Badbadbunny · 20/03/2026 13:33

When you've had a tradesmen use your towel for wiping his arse and leaving it covered in shit, or another has clearly stood on your loo seat with oily/muddy boots leaving stains/marks impossible to remove, then, yes, those people ARE barely better than animals.

Funny how the financial advisers, solicitors, and even double glazing/kitchen salesmen who we've had in our house and used our loo didn't leave any kind of mess behind!

Yes, it's probably an unfair generalisation about tradesmen, but it's my experiences. And it's my bathroom, so I'll impose whatever rules or restrictions I want to preserve my property and belongings. If they don't like it, then tough! I make it clear from the start, so no surprises for them. Public toilets available within a few minutes, and they'd probably go there for their mid morning bacon bun or lunch anyway, so probably not even an extra journey! As I've said, for bigger jobs, I tell them to cost in a portaloo when they come to quote for the job.

What do you mean "funny how financial advisors and even salesmen" didn't leave a mess? Do you think it's a class thing or something? A university lecturer left my bathroom in a right state once. Funny how it's only university lecturers who've done that, and the builders have all left it perfectly fine.

The hand towel thing is insane, and disgusting. Cannot imagine what would possess someone to do this. But I wouldn't extrapolate from one lunatic to all builders. And the "animals" comment just doesn't sit ok for me.

And what is with all the comments about builders and bacon buns?? One of my (builder) brothers is a vegetarian who typically eats bircher muesli for breakfast, but neither of them are heading off for hot breakfasts at 11am on a working day.

TBF, they do have to work in some filthy, noisy, dangerous environments, so can't afford to be too dainty about their toilet preferences. Maybe some lose sight of how clean a bathroom can and should be as a result of the horrible working environments that are their normal. But I don't know a single tradesman who would behave they way you've experienced some behave.

Badbadbunny · 20/03/2026 14:12

@Blueyrocks

We're all just live by our lived experiences. I've had 40 years of numerous people coming to my home for various reasons. Whilst the majority have been absolutely fine, many havn't been so my house, my choice, all based on my experiences. I've never said all tradesmen behave like animals, I've never said no white collar workers behave like animals. You seem to be taking all this very personally. Given how this is a common theme in MN and given the large number of portaloos that seem ever more commonplace these days, I think there is a real problem and it's not something that householders should meekly accept as some kind of price of using tradesmen that they should put up with poor behaviour in their homes.

Blueyrocks · 20/03/2026 14:20

@Badbadbunny i do take it personally! My DB is very well trained in bathroom manners. I know this, because I did the training. He'd be affronted by the idea that someone expected him to behave like an "animal" because he is a builder. Or at least I'm affronted on his behalf.

Badbadbunny · 20/03/2026 14:34

Blueyrocks · 20/03/2026 14:20

@Badbadbunny i do take it personally! My DB is very well trained in bathroom manners. I know this, because I did the training. He'd be affronted by the idea that someone expected him to behave like an "animal" because he is a builder. Or at least I'm affronted on his behalf.

Well you must be really offended by all the MN posts that regard all men as potential rapists then!

Talkingoutofmypants · 20/03/2026 14:36

My husband's a decorator.
He was working in a house once and the woman who owned it brought him a cup of tea and a biscuit. He was up a ladder in the bathroom at the time so she put the biscuit (no plate) and the mug on the pedestal rug in front of the toilet.

MurkyMo · 20/03/2026 14:44

CocoaTea · 20/03/2026 11:03

I agree. I am astounded!

Maybe it is because I grew up in a house of sisters, no brother, have a limited dating history etc so not enough experience of men but my mind is blown 🤯 right now.

Why cant he wee into the toilet as an adult?! Why? What is the reason?

If he has a wife / partner - what does she think of this?

If he has male DC - is he teaching them this is ok?

I have soo many questions.

Why would anyone do this in a client’s home? Never mind in their own home?

Do men really do this? Responses
on this thread seem quite calm.

My mind is truly blown 🤯.

@MurkyMo I’d definitely say something because WTAF?!

His wife is a primary school teacher.

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InspectorDefect · 20/03/2026 14:47

Spiderx · 20/03/2026 09:14

You shouldn't have to put up with this. As a grown man ,he should do the " shake" before starting to pee...that is like un- kinking a garden hose so there is some direction control. Often remaining tucked in our underwear for a few hours our appendages need straightening out before use ! Easily done by giving it a quick " dry shake".first before the flow starts. Don't know how you would be able to advise him about doing this though ?!

This is fascinating!

Ladybyrd · 20/03/2026 14:58

I don’t know what’s bloody wrong with men. It so much easier for them to pee - they don’t even have the indignity of squatting. Just point and shoot. Maybe it’s like a fire hose when some of them whip it out.

Newyearawaits · 20/03/2026 15:43

Blueyrocks · 20/03/2026 14:00

What do you mean "funny how financial advisors and even salesmen" didn't leave a mess? Do you think it's a class thing or something? A university lecturer left my bathroom in a right state once. Funny how it's only university lecturers who've done that, and the builders have all left it perfectly fine.

The hand towel thing is insane, and disgusting. Cannot imagine what would possess someone to do this. But I wouldn't extrapolate from one lunatic to all builders. And the "animals" comment just doesn't sit ok for me.

And what is with all the comments about builders and bacon buns?? One of my (builder) brothers is a vegetarian who typically eats bircher muesli for breakfast, but neither of them are heading off for hot breakfasts at 11am on a working day.

TBF, they do have to work in some filthy, noisy, dangerous environments, so can't afford to be too dainty about their toilet preferences. Maybe some lose sight of how clean a bathroom can and should be as a result of the horrible working environments that are their normal. But I don't know a single tradesman who would behave they way you've experienced some behave.

This 100pc
I am dismayed at the extreme bias and negative stereotyping of tradesmen.
It is disgraceful.
No particular habits or traits can be attributed to any one group of people and the snobbery and prejudice on this forum is astounding.
I have had extensive building work done on my home by different trades people and have never encountered any of the issues described here.
Fwiw, in my workplace, a senior member of professional staff frequently left skid marks in the toilet.
The same out person had a second home and children in private education. Therefore, arguably someone in the same bracket as described by some on this forum (ie solicitors).
Such explicit snobbery and judgmental comments are extremely worrying.

JohnBullshit · 20/03/2026 15:56

Talkingoutofmypants · 20/03/2026 14:36

My husband's a decorator.
He was working in a house once and the woman who owned it brought him a cup of tea and a biscuit. He was up a ladder in the bathroom at the time so she put the biscuit (no plate) and the mug on the pedestal rug in front of the toilet.

Salty hairy footprint biscuits, yum. I hope he flushed the tea away too, if that was the customer's idea of food hygiene.

twentyeightfishinthepond · 20/03/2026 16:17

TomatoSandwiches · 20/03/2026 08:36

I would not accept this, give him some cleaning spray and a cloth and tell him to clean up his mess..... fucking disgusting man.

This. I don’t normally comment on these threads because I don’t care at all if someone uses my loo, but this is too much, and totally unnecessary.

MurkyMo · 20/03/2026 17:17

Well he's finished up now, thank the lord!!!! If he was here longer I'd have to say something though. How does his wife put up with it ??

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AdaDex · 20/03/2026 18:11

MurkyMo · 20/03/2026 17:17

Well he's finished up now, thank the lord!!!! If he was here longer I'd have to say something though. How does his wife put up with it ??

She probably told him to piss and shit in other people's houses before he comes home so he won't do it at theirs.

I'm at the tail end of doing some renovations to my flat. The last thing to do is to fit some new internal doors. I've bought some tools and I'm going to do it myself.

I cannot tolerate another man that I don't know, crawling all over my personal space 😒

CyanMaker · 20/03/2026 18:13

I know just how you feel. Years ago I had a new refrigerator delivered.Not only did the guy put a dent in it while moving it in the door, he also made a mess of my bathroom when he used it.I hope your contractor is better at doing your kitchen than he is at using the bathroom!

pouletvous · 20/03/2026 18:18

Put the lid down on loo. Put some floor wipes on toilet lit and a note saying, please clean up your piss

OldScribbler · 20/03/2026 18:24

Quite right. I am amazed that grown up men can’t even aim straight. Who the hell raised them?

Ahsheeit · 20/03/2026 18:31

All you need to say is "clean up after yourself in the bathroom please, or you'll have to go elsewhere". Fuck embarrassing him, his behaviour SHOULD embarrass him.

tommyhoundmum · 20/03/2026 18:40

Maybe he needs circumcising

BooneyBeautiful · 20/03/2026 18:52

MurkyMo · 20/03/2026 08:54

Oh god no. But it's that awful textured safety flooring, husband is disabled so that's why it's here. But it's so difficult to clean because of the rough texture of it.

Buy a Turbo Scrub. They are excellent for cleaning anti-slip flooring. I got mine off ebay ages ago.

eastegg · 20/03/2026 19:06

beadystar · 20/03/2026 08:44

At this stage in my life, I would not accept this. I think they do it on purpose in a woman’s space. Little power play. I would ask him to sit on the loo and provide a box of cleaning supplies for his ‘accidents’. I would be brisk and no-nonsense about this, like talking to a child.

There was another thread recently where some of us were reminded of uncle Harvey and auntie Val in League of Gentlemen, and it’s happened again, thank you!

In this hooouuse….

Sorry if you don’t know what I’m talking about!

Sheepsmellnice · 20/03/2026 19:15

Put a load of old newspapers round the toilet and on the floor see if the dirty git takes the hint