AIBU to be livid at kitchen fitter for pissing all over my bathroom like a bloody tomcat?

[MurkyMo]

AIBU to be absolutely livid that my kitchen fitter pisses all over the toilet and the floor every time he uses the facilities. He must have a "sprinkle-cock" Fireman Sam would be proud of. And not only that, he flushes without putting down the lid of the toilet so aerosols of his piss float through the air coating the immediate area around the loo. Every time he goes in there my whole body tenses and I have to go in after him to mop up the worst of what's on the floor so it doesn't get traipsed through the house. I have carpet ! ! ! ! ! And I know I'll be scrubbing away as soon as he leaves this evening.

My BP is up and it's only day 2 ! Oh god I could swing for him!!!

Call him back in the toilet to clean it himself. Tell him you've noticed he keeps doing this and ask him to stop.
Absolutely vile behaviour!

Tackle it direct... by asking him to better direct his tackle 😅

Lay dust sheets around the loo explaining to him why you’ve put them there and also ask him to lower the loo lid BEFORE he flushes……he might not have any idea that flushing produces airborne particles of piss. He just needs educating is all.

“invalid”?

I agree. My DH has cancer and is immuno-compromised. I started saying "no" to tradesmen using our loo in the aftermath of Covid, when there was genuine reason and people were used to there not being a "free for all". I still do it.

If someone is here for a quick job, i.e. boiler service, or carpet fitting, I tell them where the nearest public loo is, the moment they walk in the door, so they are under no illusions, and can "plan" if they think they're going to need the loo, rather than end up desperate. There are a few options, all within a few minutes drive of our house, so it's not as if they have to drive miles.

For longer jobs, i.e. a kitchen fitting, external decorating, etc., when they come to quote, I tell them to include a portaloo in the quote. They're pretty cheap really for daily hire.

We had a few awful instances in the past - one neanderthal workman used our towel to wipe his arse, so it was covered in shit. Another actually stood on our loo seat in muddy/oily boots leaving marks/stains I couldn't remove. And another left bits of shit on the wall beside the loo and all over the floor. Some of them are barely better than animals. A bit of wee sprinkling sounds tame by comparison. These guys weren't "cheap and nasty" workers either, they were local/reputable firms that were well known.

We've had 40 years of living in our house, so although such disgusting events don't happen often, we've been here so long, and had so much done (3 new bathrooms, 2 new kitchens, outside decorating 3 or 4 times, new roof, central heating replaced, re-wiring, etc etc), that we've had a lot of workmen in the house over many years.

A very naive post really. "Some" may take that in the right way and comply. The vast majority of "billy big balls" alpha males will deliberately ignore you and probably make a bigger mess on purpose as they don't like being told what to do by a "mere" woman!

Put down a load of newspaper around the loo as a bit of a hint. If he asks say it saves the carpet, perhaps he'll figure it out.

who voted that I'm being unreasonable??? 😅

Ah, come on, it's only a bit of piss.

JOKING. I am a silent seether in this scenario. I would want to return to life my feisty MIL, who terrified the life out of tradespeople by warning them in advance that she was very fussy about her house, so she was putting down lots of protection and demanded the utmost respect for her home. They always complied, and really, respect for the home you're paying someone to maintain or upgrade is the least you should expect.

Not naive at all………..I was merely passing on a recommendation from the supervisor of the team who were recently renovating part of our home none of whom were “billy big balls” but were wearing work clothing, heavy footwear. Yes, the dust sheets got splashed and marked from their footwear but the bathroom flooring was protected.

"You are peeing all over the toilet and the floor in my bathroom. Please stop, or you will not be able to use a toilet in this house."

Like another poster, I’m disabled. But in my case, that means I genuinely would be unable to clean up anyone’s piss all over the bathroom. When you’re disabled, I think you have to grow a thicker skin about these things sometimes because if I didn’t and I let some man do this, the bathroom would be covered in wee until the cleaner came on a Friday and why should SHE have to clean up some strange disgusting man’s piss either??? Text him a photo of the bathroom if you’re unable to say anything in person. It will also be a useful photo to put in your TrustPilot or local Facebook review of him.

Pissing over the back of the toilet?? What kind of feral men does the PP above know? YANBU but does it really need a full scrub vs leaving bleach/dettol to sit and then wiping? Scrubbing every day would make me more pissed off. I would be embarrassed to be very direct so I would probably ask him to please wash his hands carefully as when you go in there are drips on the floor near the toilet and it makes your socks wet (or whatever) and he will hopefully get the idea that you are actually standing in his piss not his “hand washing water”.

Is it weird that I’m thinking about what the end of his penis must look like in order for the pee to come out in all directions? Probably. I had people working on my house once and when I went in the toilet after one of them there was a muddy boot print on the toilet seat. You could see the treads and everything

I'd expect both men and women to have the decency to let someone working in their house use the toilet. Nothing gendered or "kind" about that. My DBs are tradesmen. It makes me so angry that they might be treated like this because of other people's behaviour.

🤢

I agree. I am astounded!

Maybe it is because I grew up in a house of sisters, no brother, have a limited dating history etc so not enough experience of men but my mind is blown 🤯 right now.

Why cant he wee into the toilet as an adult?! Why? What is the reason?

If he has a wife / partner - what does she think of this?

If he has male DC - is he teaching them this is ok?

I have soo many questions.

Why would anyone do this in a client’s home? Never mind in their own home?

Do men really do this? Responses
on this thread seem quite calm.

My mind is truly blown 🤯.

@MurkyMo I’d definitely say something because WTAF?!

How are clients supposed to know which they are before letting them use their toilet? How can they tell whether they will leave piss or shit all over the place or leave it clean?
ETA: perhaps that's the answer - have it on their logo or branding. And agree, your DBs have been let down by their peers.

my first thought was "did their mothers not teach them better or tell their fathers to teach them?" As I have said, never had a tradie who did it or a friend or guest. My favorite tradie was one who was here for weeks and always used the airfreshener spray after he had used the loo.

I am not trying to defend many lazy men but some have medical conditions that mean they cannot pee straight or it shoots in different directions. However, I don't know why these men can't therefore pee sitting down.
Flushing with the lid up does my head in. My DH has many annoying habits but I am grateful that he is well trained with putting the lid down.

The thing is that a lot of workmen make their own arrangements anyway and don't ask to use your loo. Most go out for mid morning bacon buns, lunch or just to go to get supplies they've forgotten or nip out for quotes/small jobs whilst waiting for paint to dry, or glue to stick, or whatever, and presumably go to the loo whilst they're out. Some go home for their lunch/walk their dog etc., so again, use their own loo.

We had a guy who replaced our conservatory, mostly on his own, which took nearly two weeks. He never once asked to use our loo (and no, he wasn't pissing/shitting behind our garden shed either!). I presume he went elsewhere as he never spent a full day at our house, as he was always off somewhere else after he'd done something here, and came back after lunch for another hour or two, before going off again.

There are also lots of "sites" where they may not even be a loo, i.e. building sites, bathroom replacement jobs, major renovations where the water/drainage is cut off, etc. They'd have to make alternative arrangements then.

Yes, I'm sure it is annoying for a "good" tradesmen to be asked not to use a householder's loo, but it's more annoying for the householder to find a neanderthal has ruined her towel or toilet seat, or pissed/shat all over the floor/wall. Their annoyance needs to be directed at the other tradesmen, not the "innocent" householder!

For longer jobs, hiring a portaloo is the answer and they're pretty cheap, certainly barely noticeable on top of the price for a big job like a replacement roof that takes a week or two with many blokes on the job (without a portaloo, heaven knows what the house loo would look like!).

I used to know an excellent and really lovely landscape gardener who worked for us quite a few times on long jobs. It was a standing joke with his team that he NEVER used the loo at a client's house. I was sorry when he moved away.

I think men who do this do so deliberately. They can’t not know. I have two boys and once they were old enough I got them to clean up after themselves with spray and wipe (I’d spray, they would wipe). So that sorted that out quick smart!

I once saw a sign in a unisex loo that said "We aim to please. Would you aim too, please?" 😁

This is a good suggestion - I like that you have thought about face saving which might help maintain the high standard of workmanship. You never know how someone is going to take it if you just confront them.

Autocorrect sorry

Please ignore.. should have linked to another post.