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Racism in uk

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Charltonstrek · 18/03/2026 10:30

Im finding the level of racism here in the UK to be very unsettling and it seems to be getting worse and im finding it depressing as I have a Muslim partner and I wonder if there is a future here for him. Ive mostly witnessed this on social media with some very derogatory comments anybody else or am I too sensitive

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Firtreefiona · 18/03/2026 16:28

nomas · 18/03/2026 16:26

So how does it help her to tell her Jewish people have it way worse?

She’s saying racism is bad. Antisemitism is another form of racism. Neither poster was saying either form is better or worse or more or less valid than any other. Both are horrendous. Agreed?

Wellthisisdifficult · 18/03/2026 16:28

Firstbornunicorn · 18/03/2026 16:11

But my school used to close for both Epiphany and the feast of the Immaculate Conception. My son's classmates who are making their first penance this week have the day off for religious observation. They'll have the same for their first Holy Communion next year and Confirmation in P7. The kids who aren't doing the sacraments don't stay off. How is that any different?

Well Pressumably that’s a Catholic school. I went to a catholic school, interesting days to pick to have off for them. Why those days? Surprised their first penance wasn’t on a Saturday- most are

nomas · 18/03/2026 16:28

Firtreefiona · 18/03/2026 16:28

She’s saying racism is bad. Antisemitism is another form of racism. Neither poster was saying either form is better or worse or more or less valid than any other. Both are horrendous. Agreed?

Edited

Of course she is saying anti-Semitism is worse, she said 'per capita Jews are the most likely to experience racism. We have definitely been ignoring that as a society, it’s extremely sad and an indictment of where the Uk is today.'

Firtreefiona · 18/03/2026 16:30

nomas · 18/03/2026 16:28

Of course she is saying anti-Semitism is worse, she said 'per capita Jews are the most likely to experience racism. We have definitely been ignoring that as a society, it’s extremely sad and an indictment of where the Uk is today.'

To be a victim of antisemitism is just as bad as being a victim of Islamophobia, agreed?

PersephonePomegranate · 18/03/2026 16:32

nomas · 18/03/2026 16:23

it's really not helpful when an OP starts a thread about racism against her Muslim partner and within the first few posts the thread is hijacked by bad faith actors saying 'per capita Jews are the most likely to experience racism. We have definitely been ignoring that as a society, it’s extremely sad and an indictment of where the Uk is today.'

If someone brings up Islamophobia in the first few posts on a thread about anti-Semitism, you could be accusing them of derailing.

She doesn't say anything about anti-Islamic comments to her partner, she talks about racist comments on SM.

PersephonePomegranate · 18/03/2026 16:33

Firtreefiona · 18/03/2026 16:28

She’s saying racism is bad. Antisemitism is another form of racism. Neither poster was saying either form is better or worse or more or less valid than any other. Both are horrendous. Agreed?

Edited

Thank you.

Some people seem intent on bending the definition of racism to suit their own agenda.

nomas · 18/03/2026 16:33

PersephonePomegranate · 18/03/2026 16:32

She doesn't say anything about anti-Islamic comments to her partner, she talks about racist comments on SM.

Edited

No, she literally says he is down about the racism.

Also she says 'I have a Muslim partner and I wonder if there is a future here for him'

stargirl27 · 18/03/2026 16:35

Paganpentacle · 18/03/2026 15:27

So why are they off school then?

I have no idea, I don't set term dates! My point was it's a ridiculous comparison (why do all kids get Christmas off but only Muslim ones get Eid off) given Eid is not a nationally recognised holiday.

Firtreefiona · 18/03/2026 16:35

nomas · 18/03/2026 16:33

No, she literally says he is down about the racism.

Also she says 'I have a Muslim partner and I wonder if there is a future here for him'

Sigh! I give in!

nomas · 18/03/2026 16:36

Firtreefiona · 18/03/2026 16:30

To be a victim of antisemitism is just as bad as being a victim of Islamophobia, agreed?

Of course they are, it's just the double standard at play here. If someone brings up Islamophobia in the first few posts on a thread about anti-Semitism, people accuse them of derailing.

Wellthisisdifficult · 18/03/2026 16:37

nomas · 18/03/2026 16:12

You have some charming friends and heroes.

Thank you, I do indeed have some lovely friends - I’m blessed in that respect. I’m not sure I have any “heroes” I think what you’re doing is creating a version of me you want to exist for your benefit (and just for completeness here is a CV list of parties I have voted for in the past - Labour (was actually a fully paid up member at one point). Lib Dem’s, Tories, Green and locally Independent. I generally listen to what any of them have to offer

stargirl27 · 18/03/2026 16:37

5128gap · 18/03/2026 15:45

In what way do you feel that having neighbours that are not white British has made your area worse? This doesn't resonate with me at all. Our local mosque is an asset to the community, arranges all sorts from baby classes to wellbeing sessions, litter picks and a curry van with free meals for people who are struggling for food. The local businesses have elevated the area, planting flowers outside restaurants and shops, and I genuinely don't see any problems. What is happening in your area that you'd like people to see and listen to your concerns about?

I find it completely mind boggling that people care about the skin colour/race/religion etc of THEIR NEIGHBOURS

Firtreefiona · 18/03/2026 16:38

nomas · 18/03/2026 16:36

Of course they are, it's just the double standard at play here. If someone brings up Islamophobia in the first few posts on a thread about anti-Semitism, people accuse them of derailing.

Really? That’s not something I’ve noticed. Most people in Britain think all racism is equally abhorrent. I’m sad for OP that her experiences have been otherwise.

Wellthisisdifficult · 18/03/2026 16:39

nomas · 18/03/2026 16:36

Of course they are, it's just the double standard at play here. If someone brings up Islamophobia in the first few posts on a thread about anti-Semitism, people accuse them of derailing.

But it was never about islamaphobia- it was a post on racism generally the posters husband was used as an example. But the post talks about Racism being bad in the UK. If you want to discuss something narrower it needs to be a separate thread.

nomas · 18/03/2026 16:39

Wellthisisdifficult · 18/03/2026 16:37

Thank you, I do indeed have some lovely friends - I’m blessed in that respect. I’m not sure I have any “heroes” I think what you’re doing is creating a version of me you want to exist for your benefit (and just for completeness here is a CV list of parties I have voted for in the past - Labour (was actually a fully paid up member at one point). Lib Dem’s, Tories, Green and locally Independent. I generally listen to what any of them have to offer

You're lovely Pakistani-hating Indian friends shouldn't get too uncomfortable under Farage. Judging by the racist comments to Indians from Reform supporters, they are going to have a hard time of it if Reform come into power.

Hereforthecommentz · 18/03/2026 16:39

charliehungerford · 18/03/2026 16:22

Don’t be so Rediculous, the late Queen occasionally wore a scarf tied under her chin when taking the dogs out, she wasn’t compelled to wear it as religious dress for the obligatory covering of her hair. Very few nuns still wear a head covering, but if they do they are usually part of a religious order. It’s not as if all catholic women are obliged to wear one. The youngest child I ever saw was a toddler in the baby seat of a supermarket trolley. She couldn’t have been more than two years old. She had a full headscarf covering her head. I just thought I’d was terribly sad.

Your right us Catholics don't have to wear a head covering. Sometimes people wear them at mass but it's are few and far between. It is also a choice for Muslims to wear scarfs. My daughters friend doesn't. She has to cover up in summer though, like wearing jeans and long t shirts but she isn't obliged to wear any coverings and no Muslim is they chose to. Or should I say the parents chose to dress thier child in them.

nomas · 18/03/2026 16:40

Wellthisisdifficult · 18/03/2026 16:39

But it was never about islamaphobia- it was a post on racism generally the posters husband was used as an example. But the post talks about Racism being bad in the UK. If you want to discuss something narrower it needs to be a separate thread.

Except that within a few posts she was told anti-Semitism is worse than racism to Muslims. Hardly coming together to fight all intolerance is it?

Mixedmix · 18/03/2026 16:42

Happyjoe · 18/03/2026 15:13

The stats say now that racism, well, hate crime is on the rise, I guess some of that can be down to people reporting it more. However, it certainly rife on social media, we even see it here. It's disheartening that folk are going backwards. To me it reminds me of the 70's where it's overt.

Probably more report it nowadays.

nomas · 18/03/2026 16:42

Firtreefiona · 18/03/2026 16:38

Really? That’s not something I’ve noticed. Most people in Britain think all racism is equally abhorrent. I’m sad for OP that her experiences have been otherwise.

Hang around here long enough and you'll soon see it.

Of course all racism is equally abhorrent, but not everyone seems to agree.

See upthread the comments from one poster who is proud that her Indian friends hate all Pakistanis.

Wellthisisdifficult · 18/03/2026 16:42

nomas · 18/03/2026 16:39

You're lovely Pakistani-hating Indian friends shouldn't get too uncomfortable under Farage. Judging by the racist comments to Indians from Reform supporters, they are going to have a hard time of it if Reform come into power.

I’m sure they will be looking at what each party has to offer, and making their decision. They’re very intelligent people who run their own businesses so will undoubtedly be looking at this from many angles. So do you think Reform
will win, you seem very focused on them.

Wellthisisdifficult · 18/03/2026 16:44

nomas · 18/03/2026 16:42

Hang around here long enough and you'll soon see it.

Of course all racism is equally abhorrent, but not everyone seems to agree.

See upthread the comments from one poster who is proud that her Indian friends hate all Pakistanis.

That isn’t accurate at all - where do I say that? I’ve said they have certain views on Pakistan - I’ve never intimated my view on that. Please try and keep this accurate

nomas · 18/03/2026 16:45

Wellthisisdifficult · 18/03/2026 16:42

I’m sure they will be looking at what each party has to offer, and making their decision. They’re very intelligent people who run their own businesses so will undoubtedly be looking at this from many angles. So do you think Reform
will win, you seem very focused on them.

I think anyone who can hate an entire nation of people, as you said your friends do, isn't capable of being intelligent.

Reform may win, but it will be a disaster for this country.

Poetnojo · 18/03/2026 16:47

Busybeemumm · 18/03/2026 12:26

These stats are based on people actually reporting them in the first place and so therefore not completely reliable.

People of Muslim faith are also more likely to experience social disadvantage in education and employment therefore may also be less likely to report racism due to language barriers and not knowing who/how to report.

Of course stats are based on what's reported, how else could we possibly gather said stats?
Are you suggesting muslims in the UK are more likely to be racially abused just because you say so? Without stats to back it up? You're also doing a disservice to the Muslim population by saying they can't speak English and are so ignorant that they can't find out the proper information regarding who to report to.

Eskarina1 · 18/03/2026 16:47

Bringemout · 18/03/2026 11:48

Did you ever read that article, he was pointing out that in a free society he’s free to think burqas make women look like postboxes and they are free to wear whatever they like. It was a point about freedom of speech and freedom of expression?

But people are entitled to wear what they like (within certain reasonable limits, e.g. appropriate coverage and nothing that could cause harm) because it is their body and you can't say what you like about another person because a) manners and b) not causing harm

stargirl27 · 18/03/2026 16:48

Vivi0 · 18/03/2026 15:27

Lol - would anyone tell (or expect) Spaniards to integrate with ex pat British communities?

Someone upthread said that Brits in Spain who did not integrate or learn the language were despicable. Since no one appears to have taken issue with this, I assume that is also true of the communities in the UK who do not learn English or integrate.

I was being sarcastic re it being despicable for British immigrants in Spain not to learn Spanish. My point was if that is the standard for immigrants in Britain then it needs to be the same for immigrants from Britain.

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