Should I ask my DS and his girlfriend for money

[DiaryofWimpy]

My DS2 has moved his girlfriend in with her 2 cats.

Obviously it’s another person using the washing machine,,TV, gas and electricity they are both 22 and don’t work but get benefits.

Do you think I’m being unreasonable asking them for money?

Thats why I said the threshold has to go up. Not we get rid of the welfare state.

Lwcra is being cut for new claimants after April. Halved as far as I'm aware.

No work
No benefits

Guaranteed job from the government.

Yes and likely PIP criteria will be very much tightened despite the backbenchers revolting against proposed tougher criteria last year.

That was my first thought. They’re gaming.

I have mental health issues too. Ptsd. Anxiety. Depression. The ptsd came from a chain of traumatic life events and is fairly recent

I personally don't think I should have to defend my position - and I don't think the OP should have to defend hers either. She has bipolar. She posted for advice and she's been judged.

As I said in another post. Your GP can write you a fit note and put you on medication and the dwp can overrule them. The threshold for getting lcwra for mental health isn't low - it's pretty high. People who have been through the system know that

Unless you deliberately threw yourself under a bus (which I don't believe for one minute) surely you would have a claim against the person(s) who caused your injuries?

This why we have insurance and the Criminal Injuries Compensation Authority.

There will never be a guaranteed job from the Government.

I don't agree that people should have to work for benefits. That's just a recipe for near slave labour, and it's not fair on lower paid workers who would lose their jobs because councils etc would be able to 'hire' even cheaper workers for those jobs. Also with so many young people out of work, we need to be looking at creating more employment opportunities. Actually, I think that's part of the problem - there's so little work for young people out there at the moment that a lot of them (who appear to have been totally fucked up by the pandemic as well) seem to be just giving up and resigning themselves to benefits. This IS something the government needs to tackle, particularly as AI is going to hit the jobs market badly as well very very soon.

No. I don't. Persons didn't cause my accident. I would rather not go into detail but criminal injuries isn't relevant to what happened

I'm sorry that you can't make a claim against someone, it seems rather unfair.

You shouldn't have to defend your position, as I said. The OP is only having to defend hers because the fact that her son is now also settling down to a life of benefits aged 22 is a reflection of her, as his parent. It looks like learned behaviour. And as I have also said, it's not surprising people find that frustrating, when everyone is struggling right now and taxes are going up and standards of living are going down.

ETA - I am sorry you're going through a shit time btw.

Thanks. I appreciate that. I hope things work out for the OP and her son.

As I said previously people on lcwra can work as long as it doesn't contradict the reason they got the benefits - maybe something the OP can look into

There are people on lcwra and Pip who do work. I think that gets forgotten about sometimes

We've 'met' on here before and I completely agree as in the same line of work.

Well, this is what I am proposing. In order to get benefits.

Well, you come up with a better solution. We haven;t got any money.

Absolutely! It’s outrageous.

But that's just a proposal. You've said nothing about how it would work in practice - you have to work in order to get benefits? You mean for nothing? These schemes have already existed decades ago - the dwp implement them. Not the Government

Well he has been claiming for 4 years. Not sure it takes that long to investigate. Not sure they know more about the fact that he claims he can't leave his house and yet does every day or the fact that he claims he can't work and yet works cash in hand!

He is getting benefits and getting paid cash in hand so cheating the benefits system and the tax system! He works 4 or 5 full days a week and pays no tax or national insurance so gets a pretty substantial amount of money. No wonder he can go out and eat so many nights a week!

I can lend you my CPAG 😅

There is enough money that we don't need to resort to creating an underclass of people providing near-slave-labour.

All three of you have diagnosed anxiety?

No they are not easy to get for some people but incredibly easy to get for others.

I have a friend who has multiple health problems and gets a very small amount of benefit (not sure which one) so has no choice but to work. Some days she cannot get out of bed. I think she should be getting more benefits than she is.

When she went to an assessment for a benefit they turned her down because she was clean and well dressed!

Mental health problems are easy to fake. If someone says they are depressed or anxious how do you know if it is the truth.

I actually suffered from such bad anxiety and panic attacks over 25 years ago that I did not leave my house for over 2 months. I had a job though and thankfully they were sympathetic and I managed to go back to work.

If my neighbour were genuine I would have sympathy but he is not

What if you are disabled? Where do they fall into the equation. You technically aren't correct. There are people on universal credit who work. At least a million people. It was the same when people claimed working tax credits. Because employers were paying them the min wage

Also. Being law abiding has nothing to do with this. Not all people who use drugs or alcohol have criminal records

And the popping out of kids with different fathers has little relevance either. Until very recently there was a two child cap on benefits.

There are millions of people in the UK who live in poverty. That's why many people claim benefits - to exist.

They should claim as a couple, otherwise they may be prosecuted for fraud.