Just get mounjaro!

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The more threads I read, the more and more posters seem to respond with “just get mounjaro” for posters wanting to lose as little as 10 lbs to get within a healthy BMI. More traditional methods of weight loss appear to be out of fashion and as though you’d be foolish to do it the perceived hard way when you can just inject a drug.
I was reading a thread where a poster had a BMI of just over 25 who was told to just get WLIs. What happened to them being for those who are obese?
Is this the way things are going now? Gained a few pounds over Christmas or on holiday? Just inject and don’t worry about it!
Anybody going against the grain of weight loss injections is often accused of being jealous. It’s a bit cult like on some threads as though WLI are the only valid way to lose weight and you’d be foolish to try any other way because “diets don’t work” and just adopting a healthier diet and lifestyle is laughable; a fool’s game and you’ll end up fat again. Well, yes, if you go back to your old habits, just like any method of weight loss.

Just a bit of a rant really on this sunny Tuesday!

Good for him!
It does take a while for lifestyle changes to become an actual habit and he is likely to find his motivation dips or he loses a bit of momentum. I have found over the years that always having a goal, or goals, to work towards and having a reward when I meet them is great motivation and keeps me on track. I'm pretty good nowadays as always have a weight training programme on the go to stick to but I do turn to my husband for a bit of an extra kick if I need it. Also, setting a big goal can be a bit of a dream without smaller process goals to hold you accountable along the way. Just a few thoughts!

You don't have to understand because it's between them and their medical provider. Some people will need a maintenance dose, some won't, that's all you need to know.

Why so defensive? It was a genuine question/comment. There should be a point when there is no longer a need for a drug and spending money unnecessarily on it.

Do they? I don't know anyone on the wli that do any exercise at all! They think they don't need to as they lose weight without it. If they genuinely are then that's a good thing but they don't need injections to lose weight. It's just a fast track. Perhaps for those who are morbidly obese then it's a kick-start to a healthy life then yes I get it but there are many people which is what op refers to that only need to lose a few lb and using it and thst is pure laziness. I know two family members that only needed to lose a few lb maybe a stone max, they could have walked or limited intake for a few weeks. I don't even know how they got it, one is a pharm tech as well! I also think it's not good for kids to see either what impression does it give. Slippery slope.

Well there you go that’s how little I am invested in this subject.

That being the case why not accept posters on this thread are here to discuss specifically the use of jabs where not medically indicated, potentially at the expense of natural options.

The science isn't settled yet, but the best evidence we have suggests that no, it is not then down to maintaining through diet and exercise because people put weight on once they stop using WLIs. There was a BMJ review linked to upthread, albeit it's somewhat limited and the authors felt more research was needed.

Basically, obese people's bodies like getting back to being obese. This is why diet and exercise fail so hard on a population level. What we don't know yet is how they compare for ex WLI users against formerly obese people who lost weight through diet and exercise. But as things stand, the only thing that has been proven to keep formerly obese people at a healthy BMI is ongoing WLI use.

Thank you for the explanation.

I'm not defensive but it reads like a lot of the other non-genuine comments have. Sometimes people will need a maintenance dose for longer, it's just the way it is.

The same with BP medication for example. Many people need BP meds long term depending on other individual factors.

Providers work it on a case by case basis with trial and error when you're in a healthy bmi range.

To be honest I doubt anyone would discuss WLIs with someone who views them as lazy! I mean come on, why would they want to talk to you to be judged!

Anyway your DH will probably stop exercising, put the weight back and revert to miserable fucker mode! I’ve known so many people like that over the years!

Not sure what you mean by non-genuine. My concern is that the weight loss goes too far, you've reached goal but you go beyond it and it becomes unhealthy and the jab providers will just keep taking your money regardless.

If you stick up for yourself about WLIs you’re deemed defensive!

I mean anyone seeing the positives should sit quietly in the corner, anyone using them is lazy according to @Hereforthecommentz, because her DH didn’t need them to deal with his obesity.

Clearly not all of them are, but either way, it's AIBU. Why not refrain from disagreeing with the OP isn't really how it works.

And in fairness, OP hasn't actually said she wants or expects that.

Gosh, ok I will help, I thought everyone knew. But here you go, the drugs are recommended by all global health authorities including the world health organisation as a long term treatment to prevent relapse, no different to statins, blood pressure meds etc

80 percent of people who lose weight through dieting alone regain it all back , obesity is a relapse disease, where the bodies metabolism works against them. It is critical to people’s health thay obesity doesn’t return. It is the biggest killer we have. The number one leading cause of cancer. About 11 of them. These are very safe meds. Thay prevent the disease returning and protecting people’s health.

so that’s why.

I agree. He lost his mum last year, I think he just lost a bit of care for himself in general. Perfectly normal under the circs. Also his job changed from manual to now management so naturally less calories burnt. Now he's got the running bug he seems a lot happier. I'm a runner myself and am a big advocate for excersize for mental health. He is definitely happier, I hope he sticks to it and he is quite a determined person once he puts his mind to something! Thank you

Thank you for the explanation

Ok so that's a legitimate worry and you're not supposed to be prescribed them if underweight. Lots of us are happily titrating within normal weight range now, and have that as our long term plan. The WHO has approved WLIs for long term use.

Obviously there are people who acquire them illegitimately, as with lots of other types of medication, and that's dangerous.

No because you take them to maintain, not to further weight loss. So a mix of calorie counting initially etc... to ensure you maintain.

There are many non-genuine comments on this thread, some calling people who use jabs lazy, people spouting nonsense about sugar being the leading cause of obesity etc...

And so much interest in why someone chooses to take the jab and potential issues but no concern about the health issues related to obesity because many people really don't care about fat people sadly.

But that’s not what I said is it. I said why not discuss the OP’s topic (rather than veer into another WLI support thread.)

No problem it is preventative medicines and managing a condition, the way other meds are ie blood pressure or statins.

i am on a low maintenance dose for a year, my weight is stable, I will not regain. Which means I am now protected against all the obesity related illnesss.

there is also a huge improvement in my mental health, I like my appearance again, I eat a healthy bajalced diet, I work our 5 or 6 days a week, I have no cravings for crap and don’t over eat.i never feel deprived, I don’t go to bed hungry, I have huge energy, My blood pressure is now healthy and I’m off the very brutal blood pressure meds and on this instead,

it also brings a whole host of other benefits, cardio vascular, kidney and liver health, and reduced cancers to name a few.

these meds should be available for everyone,and they are widening it. But still cost is prohibitive for many.

I agree OP. WLI should be for people who are severely obese and metabolically unhealthy. Not for people who are metabolically healthy and just need to shift a few pounds. Over-medicating the population is a serious concern. Where does it end? Next thing you know we’ll be handing them to kids coming out of primary school and not bothering to teach them anything about diet and exercise.

Yes absolutely that’s going to happen, without a doubt! 🙄

No more crazy than people taking it to lose a few pounds who aren’t obese.

@Wildgoat 80 percent of people who lose weight through dieting alone regain it all back , obesity is a relapse disease, where the bodies metabolism works against them

An uncomfortable truth unacknowledged here is that people regain weight after a dieting if they haven’t reformed their eating habits and addressed the mental and emotional drivers behind overeating. For some that may be addictive patterns (regardless of whether they’re actually diagnosed with food addiction), for others it will be binge eating disorder etc; for some it will be lack of education about normal sized portions, good quality food and nutrition; for others lack of exercise; or a combination of the above etc.

Neither jabs or diets will work alone unless people are prepared to tackle the underlying patterns.

I’ve been on the med express website and even when I plug in that my bmi would be 27 it doesn’t offer it to me?

I was agreeing with you, it’ll be in their lunch boxes, for sure, the midday attendants will help them inject!