To think the Green Party and esp its Deputy Leader is a real worry for women

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Over the last few months I have watched with incredulity the rise of the Green Party in the polls and wondered if I am alone in this. Mothin Ali their Deputy publicly celebrated Oct 7th (which he then apologised for) and has been seen this week at an event mourning the death of the Ayatollah. I am not anti any religion but his wife is fully covered in a niqab and I feel despite what others say to have a woman's face fully covered is a tool of oppression and not something I would want in a leader as a value set. I realise others may not feel this way and it is not meant to be offensive but the facts are there.And recently a female spin doctor for the Greens alleged that rape had not taken place on Oct 7th. To me the Green Party is reminiscent of what happened in 1979 and something that ultimately affected women's rights drastically (as well as any other rights of the gay community and others). The soft left (much like the Greens) allowed the strict islamic vote to take hold and look where they ended up. This really worries me for the country. Am I the only one? And why does the Green Party seem to be so anti west and anti white. I realise Zack Polanksi is gay and jewish and they are strange bedfellows but it feels like a trojan horse mindset and not something I want for my western liberal feminist girls. In fact it feels anti feminist?

Did you read the actual tweet that Singh wrote? You might need to click twice to see the entire tweet. Or see my post of 19:57 yesterday.

Yup that's offensive.

In all the outrage over Reform, the increasing tensions and violence between different religions and different factions of the same religion from the Indian subcontinent and Africa seem very little reported.

It seems he’s been arrested for the tweet, the mobbing looks bad too.

I don't think he was arrested for the tweet? Do you have a link please as X is awash with conflicting info. But it does seem he is an agitator and has form as a pp mentioned. He is not just some random innocent restaurant owner.

Have done a bit of digging. This man is so bad that he was banned from speaking at an Urban Scoop event. Urban Scoop being Tommy Robinson's organisation. As I said, he is not some random innocent restaurant owner.

Issues that I consider important:

Climate change

Biodiversity loss

Patriarchal attitudes towards division of labour in child rearing and its associated problems: assumption that it's possible to work full time as a single parent when often the childcare provision just isn't there

Late stage capitalism and the fact we're all left fighting over scraps while the global super rich accumulate obscene wealth

The housing crisis and how my DC are going to be able to afford to live independently

The rise of those promoting hatred and division as a solution to any of our ills

The way we're sleepwalking into a future heavily reliant on tech- especially now with AI- and those in charge of this technology not having our best interests at heart

Etc

Etc

Etc

I think any concern I might have over trans people- a group that has never personally harmed me or any woman I know, in stark contrast to cis men- has got to be down in the hundreds on my list.

Transwomen ARE men. They’re just as likely to harm women as any other man. Except they’re being given access to women when we’re at our most vulnerable.

Wrong. They are at risk from cis men. Stats have shown this time and time again.

Quite. Scaremongering plays into the hands of the far right misogynists and they are rumbling their hands in glee that women are falling for it.

Trans women are men, as such they have no place in female spaces.

If the trans issues are as insignificant and unimportant as some people claim and drive voters to the far right why are the left clinging to them like barnacles to a rock? Parties abandon all kinds of policies when the polls come back unfavourable but not trans rights (what ever they actually are). Unimportant enough to not take them into account when deciding who to vote for but too important for parties to change their minds over. Makes fuck all sense.

Whatever.

Think we have waaaay more to worry about than the teeny tiny chance of a trans women using a female toilet let alone being a predator.

World war 3, anti abortion rhetoric , burning planet, the NHS, our education system….

Anybody or any party which prioritises and leaps on the band wagon of anti trans rhetoric as being something to focus attention on when voting is something we should all fear far far more. There is a reason they’re doing it and it’s not for the good of women I can assure you.

@AloeTom I can think of more than one thing at a time. I can be concerned about lots of different issues. It does not take away my concern for the state of the country, Ukraine, the Middle East, cruelty to animals or anything else I think is important. Pretending that men are women is leading to the erosion of all the progress that women have made in my lifetime. If it's such a tiny percentage then why do we have to consider them in everything? Why do organizations give them such importance for example? While women are sidelined. Not validating them in their beliefs is the only way forward. The same way I would not believe a delusional person was actually Napoleon Bonaparte

Yeah unfortunately though as regards this thread and the clear Reform member who started it Reform and the Tories seem to have no other polices or thoughts on anything other than this.Their prioritisation of issues is laughable in this current climate.

If you (general you) don't understand something as fundamental as human sex, sex in general, it's not a concept that is restricted to humans or mammals, what else do you not understand? The laws of thermodynamics? Carbon cycles? Exponential growth? Photosynthesis? All rather important things when talking about the environment (not that the current lot of Greens are talking about the environment). Why would I trust your party with environmental issue if you can't get the most fundamental biology right?

Yes agree- potential for real misogyny there.

So what are Labours priorities is sure as hell isn’t the working person? Or the Green Party? Because it isn’t the environment

You'll have no trouble providing these stats then? Because I'm aware of precisely no cases where transwomen have been harmed by men in male spaces,.let alone that transwomen are harmed by men at anything like the rate that women are harmed by men, however those men dress and whatever name they call themselves.

PS someone tweeting something you don't like doesn't count as risk.

Seriously! Deflection yet again and ridiculously so. Do tell us Reform’s green policies and their priorities for the working person.

Why are you assuming that anybody who doesn’t like the Green Party’s policies, or who is in any way concerned for women’s rights, must be a Reform supporter?

Because it’s clear what the point of this thread in. Some Reform voters are getting a little jumpy re growing Green popularity.

I’ll take Tory policies on Green issues and the working person as Reform clearly has nothing. Not lies though or things they had 14 years to do and never did.

What green policies does the Green party have at this point? And don't just waffle on about Net Zero. What are the policies to reach Net Zero? What are the policies regarding bio diversity? Food security? Population growth? Land use? Energy security?
Do you think Zach would be able to tell a pine from an oak if it fell on him?

What I'm really really annoyed about is that there is no proper green voting option at this point. I'd absolutely love to have one.

It's not women's fault that the Greens and the Scottish Greens are shit.