To think the Green Party and esp its Deputy Leader is a real worry for women

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Over the last few months I have watched with incredulity the rise of the Green Party in the polls and wondered if I am alone in this. Mothin Ali their Deputy publicly celebrated Oct 7th (which he then apologised for) and has been seen this week at an event mourning the death of the Ayatollah. I am not anti any religion but his wife is fully covered in a niqab and I feel despite what others say to have a woman's face fully covered is a tool of oppression and not something I would want in a leader as a value set. I realise others may not feel this way and it is not meant to be offensive but the facts are there.And recently a female spin doctor for the Greens alleged that rape had not taken place on Oct 7th. To me the Green Party is reminiscent of what happened in 1979 and something that ultimately affected women's rights drastically (as well as any other rights of the gay community and others). The soft left (much like the Greens) allowed the strict islamic vote to take hold and look where they ended up. This really worries me for the country. Am I the only one? And why does the Green Party seem to be so anti west and anti white. I realise Zack Polanksi is gay and jewish and they are strange bedfellows but it feels like a trojan horse mindset and not something I want for my western liberal feminist girls. In fact it feels anti feminist?

He wasnt violent. He walked in a supermarket that was being looted and walked out a minute later with a wide screen TV. It was his first offence and he has no ties to Jamaica after coming here as a child. No, I don't think he should have been deported.

As I said, many people who are in long term but moderately paid positions will likely be told to leave as they don't earn enough money.

Anyone involved in rioting and looting is a violent criminal who shouldn't be in this country if they're not a citizen.
If you hate this country so much that you're willing to rioting why would you want to stay here or think that we should let you stay (by you i mean the looters and rioters not you personally)

Ah so the greens (whose leader said something very offensive and racist) are the least racist party, but you aren't able to provide any examples of worse things other party leaders have said. If the others are all worse, it should be pretty easy, but there aren't any receipts to hand on that.

I dont think that everyone who riots hates the country. It wasnt a violent offence either. It was stealing. Besides, what matters is that he has.been here since a child and has no family in Jamaica. He has the right to a family life etc.

I just remembered that you dont even think.systemic racism exists so having this conversation with you is pointless. You are too.dangerous.

I see no reason to satisfy your need for me to do that. I view labour and the greens as the least racist parties as do many other Black people. We are mostly ashamed of Kemi and pity a woman who is so full of self-hatred. Same goes for Patel and Braverman (sp?) in many S Asian communities. We are embarrassed that they look like us. We fear for their children's emotional wellbeing.

Crikey.

You are the dangerous person who is arguing that anyone who doesn't want open borders and to priorities the limited article 8 rights of foreign criminals over the rights and safety of the citizens of the UK as racist.
You spout the racist critical race theory and its racist tropes and have the audacity to claim that we are racist for not going along with your wants and prioritising the rights of women over the wants of men

You do know don't you, that in numbers terms, Iran isn't 'a Muslim country' either. Only 37% of the population are Muslim and yet.....

And Lebanon was a Christian country before the plo and hezbolha

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What does it matter what they look like???

What does it matter what anyone looks like??

If you cannot yet simply see people as people, without defining them by their appearance, then try harder. 🙄

I dont know any Muslim Iranians. They dont seem to have a religion as such. They eat at Christmas and do nothing at Eid.

Kemi, for instance, is a Black woman. Racists use her to try and argue with Black women about how we should be more like her. If she didnt look like us, we wouldnt have that. That is why it matters.

I don't why you feel any responsibility for them at all really. What about Rishi Sunak, Kwasi Kwarteng, Nadhim Zahawi and Sajid Javid? Or if it only the women that you feel shame and embarrassment about.

As a woman, I do feel stronger about the other women, yes. I suppose it is the unmet expectation that they will understand things from a female/feminist perspective. I also feel more strongly about Kemi because we are both Black. I know many of my S Asian friends feel the same about Patel and Braverman. They dont like Kemi either, but they feel strongly about Patel particularly.

In 2019 there were 54 seats that changed from Labour to Conservative.

"In my constituency the Tories got in for the first time in 2019"

As far as I'm aware there are only three seats that never voted Conservative and changed in 2019. One was Bolsover in Derbyshire, the former constituency of Dennis Skinner. Another was Redcar and the third was Clwyd South.

"...the Jewish community were courted to not vote labour by the previous labour MP, who lost his seat for being a creep."

The former MPs for Redcar and Clwyd were women so it can't be those and I cannot imagine that Bolsover has a large Jewish community or that Dennis Skinner would have actively campaigned against the Labour Party.
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There were other constituencies that hadn't voted Conservative for a very long time, but those three were the only seats that had never voted Conservative.

For example, Leigh (near Manchester) had been Labour for 97 years. However, "the Jewish community" could not have affected the count there.
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There is one possibility however, Newcastle-under-Lyme had consistenly voted Labour since 1919 (and the last time they voted Conservative was in 1880) until the MP Paul Farrelly stood down from Parliament at the 2019 election (ie he didn't seek to get re-elected). He had earlier been accused of bullying and does not appear to be a very nice person.

However, once again, the "Jewish community" could not be responsible for the 2019 election result. In the 2021 Census there were just 52 people in that constituency who identified as Jewish.

I'm rather at a loss to think of which constituency you might be talking about.

Open borders is what the greens are campaigning for and you call them anti racist for it and are voting for them for their anti racism because its more important than womens rights (your words over multiple posts)
If an adult has so little respect for his or her adopted country that they are willing to loot and riot then they shouldn't expect that country to be willing to allow them to remain. As for he came over as a child well hes an adult now and when he decided to loot and riot, thats a choice he made knowing that he would likely face deportation.
I will vote to protect womens rights, not to had them over to men with special feelings or to protect foreign criminals of any colour

This has got to be a massive wind-up.

Are we just feeding a troll here?

I didnt say they are ant racist because they want open.borders. I said they are one of the least racist parties. The UK doesnt have any anti racist parties as I said earlier.

Go.back and quote where I ever mentioned "open.borders". I mentioned deporting people who have no familial ties to their country of origin.

Lying can become a nasty, dangerous habit. You should seek professional advice to put a halt to it.

So basically you are saying that if Black and Asian people don't think like you they are idiots who don't have a brain? That they don't have the same rights to have a different opinion as White people? Maybe they look at the Labour Party and and see that they may talk the talk but when faced with voting for women or Black/Asian people to lead them, they can't quite see it, for some unknown reason... And maybe Asians from other communities wonder why Labour feels Islam needs to be protected by a quasi blasphemy law but no other religious community. And maybe other Asian communities don't like it when The Greens send out posters in Urdu and have posters showing Starmer with the Indian Prime Minister. What do you think that was saying to Indians when a party campaigns by stoking sectarian animosity towards them?

No you are reading the views of a Black woman on the state of UK politics.

Nope, never used those terms. Plenty of Asian people and Black people have differing views to me. Many I vehemently disagree with. What views I find abhorrent are the ones that are actively dangerous to people like us.

🤣🤣🤣 nice try.
Please feel free to keep spouting your pro criminal bs but im done.
You cant argue with zealots or idiots

Wow. That's some statement.