To think the Green Party and esp its Deputy Leader is a real worry for women

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Over the last few months I have watched with incredulity the rise of the Green Party in the polls and wondered if I am alone in this. Mothin Ali their Deputy publicly celebrated Oct 7th (which he then apologised for) and has been seen this week at an event mourning the death of the Ayatollah. I am not anti any religion but his wife is fully covered in a niqab and I feel despite what others say to have a woman's face fully covered is a tool of oppression and not something I would want in a leader as a value set. I realise others may not feel this way and it is not meant to be offensive but the facts are there.And recently a female spin doctor for the Greens alleged that rape had not taken place on Oct 7th. To me the Green Party is reminiscent of what happened in 1979 and something that ultimately affected women's rights drastically (as well as any other rights of the gay community and others). The soft left (much like the Greens) allowed the strict islamic vote to take hold and look where they ended up. This really worries me for the country. Am I the only one? And why does the Green Party seem to be so anti west and anti white. I realise Zack Polanksi is gay and jewish and they are strange bedfellows but it feels like a trojan horse mindset and not something I want for my western liberal feminist girls. In fact it feels anti feminist?

Yes @Psychosislotus while I'm proud to be ethnically Jewish (my mother was a Holocaust survivor) I don't practise the religion and am an atheist as is DP.
Both DDs partners are not Jewish but my DGCs are brought up knowing that they are of Jewish heritage.
Hitler considered anybody with just one Jewish grandparent to be Jewish, no matter whether they practised the religion or not. German Jews considered themselves to be completely assimilated and German first. Something we can't forget in this age of rampant antisemitism.

That is interesting!

Kind of uncanny there seems to be a theme of that happening according to PP.

Yes I get what you mean. Why I didn’t really just want to come out and say it. It’s difficult to talk about for a few reasons.

But I have been with DP for 14 years now so feel I know his views and I do feel quite comfortable to say he’s not Jewish.

Not that that speaks for all in his situation but it does make it a bit more questionable for me.

I'd go with charlatan, personally.

Yes I think we will certainly do the same.

The rise in antisemitism is so concerning.

One good thing about all this multiculturalism is I thought our son reads quite indescript as he has a deeper Ashkenazi skin tone (the Eastern Europe/ Asian leaning white but tans super easily type) and he does have jet black eyes. So it was very surprising that our holiday friends picked it up! That’s never happened before.

With our daughter you would never know. Takes after me. Pale Celtic skin, blue eyes.

I don’t think it will happen again like it did before. But I don’t think we will be doing dna stuff just in case! And knowledge is power so it’s good for them to know.

Yes OP the Green Party scare me, they seem to be formed of tree huggers, trans activists and Islamist extremists. It’s a strange combination. What’s really worrying is the proportion of the vote they seem to be taking in the polls. How do they have such popularity?

I do feel sorry for the tree huggers and trans activists because I think they must be extremely naive to be standing alongside the Islamic extremists considering such extremists actually despise trans and gay people, I wonder where it will all end

If you're interested in how much the Greens value non white people you will be very interested in ZPs recent interview in which he said that we need immigration because 'I don't want to wipe bums for a living , do you?'.

The leader of this party who you apparently think are anti racist, said on the record that he thinks immigrants should come here and do the jobs he thinks he and the majority white population here are too good for.

That's who you're willing to give your rights to even have a word for your sex class, let alone any safety, dignity or privacy from men, away for. A man who thinks immigrants should come here to wipe bums because that's good enough for immigrants but not for him or people like him.

What about the Lib Dem’s? They have over 70 MPs, are popular in my area and the Greens are not likely to win, so that’s probably how I’ll vote.

Exactly.

The Greens are every single bit as dangerous to women as Reform are.

The far right and the far left don't give a fuck about women. We need as centrist a government as possible, everything else is pure folly.

Do you not find it insulting when the trans activists repeatedly compare black women to men who say they are women?

Why are you asking me? I don’t run the parties or even vote for them. I never would vote for them. What’s it got to do with the Greens?

Whataboutery is a very reliable indicator that the person can’t answer the question, so seeks to deflect as a cover up.

Can you buck that trend?

Do you know why the Greens are so intent on stripping women of their rights?

Honesty, please do not support the Green Party, they are the party for extremist trans ideology - the kind where men with cross dressing fetishes are welcomed into women’s changing rooms.

They are also attracting the extreme end of Islam IMO. All the years of getting Christianity out of our faces is going to be undone by having Islam shoved back in.

I dont think any UK party is anti racist. I think some are much less racist than others.

So you think the party whose leader said immigrants can come here to do jobs he thinks are beneath the current population is less racist than for example, one which has had a brown and a black leader and quite a few other non white members in positions of power?

Nah you just want to support the greens and the 'women who want rights are a danger to my family ' stuff is just a dead cat. It's dishonest at best to say you're prioritising anti racism, and then to support a man who'd say something so offensively colonialist and racist.

That's a good description of the Greens. I think they're riding the Muslim vote by centering Gaza. Those votes are coming from Labour so now Labour are redoubling their efforts to win the Muslim vote back with their anti-Muslum-hatred Tsar.

It won't end well and it's a shame what's happened to the Greens.

Can you tell us what policies of the other parties scare you and why you think that they are all racist? Or is it just your personal racism that has you label them as dangerous to your family?
I ask because unless you are an illegal immigrant or are a legal immigrant who has committed crimes none of the parties are in anyway threatening to remove you, your family or any person of colour

That's untrue. If IDL regulations change, lots of people I know who are in moderately paid but long term jobs might lose their right to stay here.

Yes some people I know have gone to jail or may go to jail. That is the complexity of socioeconomic deprivation. I am particularly concerned about the deportation of young people to their country of birth despite not having ties in that country.

For instance, during the London riots, my cousin stupidly looted a TV from a shop on his way back from work. He was 20. He was born in the Caribbean and came here aged 8 with his mum. They came to join his aunts and grandmother in the UK and they were the last ones still living there. They deported him back to Jamaica with nobody else there in 2012. I was so shocked when that happened but since then, I've found this isn't rare.

The least racist parties atm are the Greens and Labour. We will see what Your Party are about. So far not overly convinced.

Please do provide examples of the other parties' leaders saying more colonialist and more racist things.

And that's an interesting term to use about a black woman in power, from someone who prioritises anti racism above all else.

Do you think anti racism means not admitting that people who look like you can be problematic?

And no I am not about to argue with white people about what comments are more racist and why. I'm not a young Black woman anymore.

All this focus on 'the Muslim vote' after the G&D election is so grim. Turns out people who Reform openly resent and want to deport from the country they live in, don't want to vote Reform. The way reform and the media have tried to make them the victims in this situation is astounding.

In my constituency the Tories got in for the first time in 2019 because the Jewish community were courted to not vote labour by the previous labour MP, who lost his seat for being a creep. Yet a nationwide conspiracy regarding 'the Jewish vote' was not declared by any media outlets or other parties. It's almost like it's just racism eh?

So you think that we should keep violent criminals who riot and loot because at 20 he had no connection with his home country that he left 12 years before, really?
As for the changes to IDL which ones scare you?
More to the point it's really not the supposed anti racism that you like about the greens its the open borders with no checks or safeguards and the rights of foreign criminals that you support. Thanks for finally admitting that.

Ok so race is the most important thing, unless the person who looks like you has political views you don't agree with. Then those people are 'problematic', and therefore fair game, and race is not the most important thing. Right.