To think the Green Party and esp its Deputy Leader is a real worry for women

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Over the last few months I have watched with incredulity the rise of the Green Party in the polls and wondered if I am alone in this. Mothin Ali their Deputy publicly celebrated Oct 7th (which he then apologised for) and has been seen this week at an event mourning the death of the Ayatollah. I am not anti any religion but his wife is fully covered in a niqab and I feel despite what others say to have a woman's face fully covered is a tool of oppression and not something I would want in a leader as a value set. I realise others may not feel this way and it is not meant to be offensive but the facts are there.And recently a female spin doctor for the Greens alleged that rape had not taken place on Oct 7th. To me the Green Party is reminiscent of what happened in 1979 and something that ultimately affected women's rights drastically (as well as any other rights of the gay community and others). The soft left (much like the Greens) allowed the strict islamic vote to take hold and look where they ended up. This really worries me for the country. Am I the only one? And why does the Green Party seem to be so anti west and anti white. I realise Zack Polanksi is gay and jewish and they are strange bedfellows but it feels like a trojan horse mindset and not something I want for my western liberal feminist girls. In fact it feels anti feminist?

No i dont but then again I dont recognise most of your imported American race issues either because I dont live in the US so they have no barring on my life in the uk

I’m not a fan of the Greens but the March was organised by Stop The War Coalition and was against the Israeli-USA war in Iran. Being against the war isn’t pro Iranian regime.

I do worry about the Greens and the future of politics. They put photos of Starmer and Modi on their leaflets. Supporters will say it was to show Starmer with a right wing leader but I’m skeptical there isn’t more to it. As a side note, I also didn’t realise that some politicians go abroad during election campaigning to appeal to certain demographics in their area. A bit worrying you need to do that to win an election in the UK.

And people in the US haven't learnt a jot from the Harris/ Trump election have they.

No flipping introspection.

Ignoring women on this pushes votes to the right.

The left needs to sort this out rather than blaming women for the rise of the right wing parties.

So fucking predictable that women are ALWAYS to blame and are expected to self sacrifice because men won't do the right thing by us.

Of course I'm not going to vote for a party that thinks men become women. That really is a turkey voting for Christmas.

What I am interested in is how much they value non-white people. Not how much they hate or like trans people.

I am not angry at you. I am scared of you and the threat you present to me and mine.

Systemic racism is just an imported issue?

Not to mention some of the campaign material not being in English! If you can’t speak English (or, if relevant one of the Celtic languages) you really have business voting in British Elections.

No you have this wrong. We are not the threat.

It is the parties that fail to listen to women that are the threat to you. It is entirely possible for parties like the Green Party to support non white people AND women.

You are angry with the wrong people.

What I’m saying is given the choice I’d rather that than restrictions on abortion for example

Why can't we have both.

Why can't the Green party also support women's single sex spaces?

Yes avoid avoid avoid the Green Party who think with all the issues happening to women, all the issues a rising population brings the answer is to ignore what a woman actually is in favour of the whims of men and destroy Britain by opening the borders creating more pollution, more demand on our resources and eating up the countryside to build more houses and causing more floods. The Green Party cannot, I repeat cannot tackle the environmental issues whilst simultaneously creating more demand on our land and resources. The equation doesn’t balance

Both are non negotiables for me and a lot of women. Hence why so many are politically homeless.

Well you’d like to hope, wouldn’t you, but apparently some posters find that too difficult 🤷‍♀️

I do see your point but we are the stage with our political choices that it seems we can’t have everything. I’m just going go to go with the one that aligns most with my values but if that’s not 100% then I have to compromise and accept it

No that's just not good enough. Women shouldn't be the collateral damage, especially not the vulnerable women (ones in prisons/ rape crisis centres) that are most at risk from men who claim to be women.

This is why I am politically homeless.

The left has to look at why it is losing the female vote.

Men who identify as women are statistically more likely to be violent than other men, as a class. The Ministry of Justice figures show that 62% of transwomen in prison in the UK have convictions for rape or sexual assault, compared to 15% of men and 3% of women.
Letting men who identify as women into our spaces makes all women and girls vulnerable. Politicians should know this.

"Almost two thirds of transgender prisoners who identify as female are convicted sex offenders, new data has revealed.
Out of the 245 <a class="break-all" href="https://archive.ph/o/e7jKy/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/02/28/prisons-now-housing-record-number-of-transgender-inmates/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">trans women inmates, who are legally recognised as male, a total of 151, or 62 per cent, had committed at least one sexual offence."

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/12/31/almost-two-thirds-of-trans-women-prisoners-sex-offenders/

"Men who identify as transwomen are also considerably more likely to be convicted of violent crimes than other men.
More than 70 per cent of transgender prisoners in British jails are serving sentences for sex offences and violent crimes, government figures have revealed.
At least 181 of the 244 transgender inmates, more than 74 per cent, are in jail for crimes including rape, forcing under-age children into having sex, grievous bodily harm and robbery."

More than 70 per cent of transgender prisoners are in for sex offences or violent crimes

This isn't some flimsy study - this is transwomen who have been tried and found guilty of horrific crimes.

The Greens would have us pretend that 'transwomen are women' and these men should be allowed into our hospital wards, changing rooms, sports centres, toilets - anywhere that we might be getting undressed and we should be safe.

Their crazy policy could affect any of us, our mother or our daughters.

And, with all due respect, that's what a lot of people will do. They may vote differently to you, because to them other factors might be more important. I would suggest it happens frequently, people vote for the least worst option.

Oh come on, it’s nothing to do with the number of trans people, it’s the fact that a party is willing to sacrifice women’s rights, to tell them to shut up about comcerns they have, it’s this attitude that lets us know that party is not for women. That they don’t care about us and that they think men’s rights trump those of women

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I am really not. Considering I have people.here claiming systemic racism isnt a real thing here (any more?), I feel like I am identifying threats accurately.

Are you assuming that women who care about women’s rights (shouldn’t this be all of us?!) are going to vote Reform?

If so, let me reassure you that many of us are actually left-leaning or centrist voters, who are furious to find ourselves politically homeless, and without representation, since all the centre and left-wing parties decided to throw women under the bus.

I wouldn’t ever vote Reform. I’ve never even voted Tory. But who do I vote for if I want women’s rights to be respected?

It’s absolutely outrageous that in 2026, women are left in this position. Yet here we are.

I think that you will.vote for parties who agree with you on trans issues and/or won't vote for parties that believe trans women are women, even if they have an ethos and policies that promote racial equality. These voting actions will help ensure that a racist party has the best opportunity of success.

Do you think trans women are women?

Then lobby the parties concerned to stop being so disgustingly misogynistic, so we can vote for them. It’s not our job to sacrifice our interests and vote for a party that wants to screw us over. It’s their job to put together a decent raft of policies that appears to voters.

Why?

The answer is no. I don't. But I also dont care that many people think they are as I am.more concerned about the other issues I spoke about and affect me and people who look like me more directly and frequently.

For that reason, a political party's stance on trans issues is irrelevant to me. I dont even check it out

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