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Mass grave prepared for the school girl massacre, 165 souls

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Dirtydianaoh · 04/03/2026 01:34

For a nation to say they care about women and girl rights and liberation, and then to bomb a school wtf?!
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Alexandra2001 · 12/03/2026 07:04

Twiglets1 · 12/03/2026 06:37

Schools not a target. As people well know.

Nope, you simply do not know that, its your belief, as is mine but the evidence supports deliberately or a do not care mentality.
Why even consider dropping 1000lbs of high explosive, multiple times right next to a school???

As the Israelis helped draw up target lists, then its inconceivable that a building, used as a school for several years, wasn't known about, their Intel is second to none.... this is the country that set off pagers as bombs, that knew exactly where Iran's President was.

Twiglets1 · 12/03/2026 07:06

Alexandra2001 · 12/03/2026 07:04

Nope, you simply do not know that, its your belief, as is mine but the evidence supports deliberately or a do not care mentality.
Why even consider dropping 1000lbs of high explosive, multiple times right next to a school???

As the Israelis helped draw up target lists, then its inconceivable that a building, used as a school for several years, wasn't known about, their Intel is second to none.... this is the country that set off pagers as bombs, that knew exactly where Iran's President was.

Can't be bothered arguing about this. Love how you still make it Israel's fault when it's now pretty clear the US are responsible.

Nothing to say about all the children killed by the Iranian regime during the uprisings? Now that 100% was deliberate.

Thought not.

Alexandra2001 · 12/03/2026 07:15

Twiglets1 · 12/03/2026 07:06

Can't be bothered arguing about this. Love how you still make it Israel's fault when it's now pretty clear the US are responsible.

Nothing to say about all the children killed by the Iranian regime during the uprisings? Now that 100% was deliberate.

Thought not.

""Israelis helped draw up the targets" sailed past your thought process ....

Its a thread about 160 + children killed by US/Israelis, several threads about the Iranians and their evil acts.

The pro Israeli lobby/posters will justify anything, any act, murder, killing... all can be argued for because of x y or z.

The IRGC facility should never have been bombed in the fist place, to do so shows scant regard for the children, even if not hit, those children would have been terrified but now they are dead or seriously injured, lives snuffed out, ruined.

rainingsnoring · 12/03/2026 07:53

KatiePricesKnickers · 12/03/2026 06:49

I’m not desperate to defend anyone.
Do you genuinely believe the American military deliberately bombed a school when there was a perfectly legitimate target next door?

Clearly, you are desperate to defend them otherwise you would not have made a special point of posting and pointing out that the poster had missed the word 'accidentally'.
I have no idea whether they did this deliberately or not, anymore than you know. We do know that they have deliberately hit a desalination plant, depriving people of fresh water, deliberately hit a ship off the Indian coast which was not engaged in fighting and then apparently enjoyed the 'fun' at letting it sink, talked about death and destruction all day long (Hesgeth), rained acid rain down on civilians in Iran, etc, etc. Given that and the US's history of war crimes and illegal attacks, I would not be able to give a definite answer to your question.

Twiglets1 · 12/03/2026 08:12

Alexandra2001 · 12/03/2026 07:15

""Israelis helped draw up the targets" sailed past your thought process ....

Its a thread about 160 + children killed by US/Israelis, several threads about the Iranians and their evil acts.

The pro Israeli lobby/posters will justify anything, any act, murder, killing... all can be argued for because of x y or z.

The IRGC facility should never have been bombed in the fist place, to do so shows scant regard for the children, even if not hit, those children would have been terrified but now they are dead or seriously injured, lives snuffed out, ruined.

The school got hit by the US, accidentally.

You may not believe a word the US say but whatever - it's nothing to do with Israel!

Alexandra2001 · 12/03/2026 08:31

Twiglets1 · 12/03/2026 08:12

The school got hit by the US, accidentally.

You may not believe a word the US say but whatever - it's nothing to do with Israel!

Both the Israelis and the US have said they helped draw up targets, inc this IRGC facility but blame poor intel, which is not believable considering the networks the Israelis have in the region, the school had been in operation for several years.

But either way, had they not launched this stupid war, which will achieve nothing, these children, plus 1000s more would still be alive.

Namingbaba · 12/03/2026 08:38

I'm not sure what the US would gain to deliberately do this. Trump looks uncomfortable when asked, and I'm not sure what it does on the ground to help them.

They are completely responsible and need to take ownership of this avoidable tragedy, but of course the current administration have no dignity and are trying to sow confusion and not do the right thing.

This seems to be a pattern with some leaders, where they have a few military "successes" and think they're beyond failure so go into any conflict even when the risks were known to anyone with some basic knowledge.

TheignT · 12/03/2026 08:38

KatiePricesKnickers · 12/03/2026 05:50

You missed out the word ‘accidentally’.

If your child was blown to bits would it matter to you why the US did it? Targettrd, accident, incompetence, your child would still be dead at the hands of Trump.

Amazing how they can target a room in a hotel but accidently blow up a school.

SherlockStones · 12/03/2026 08:43

Twiglets1 · 11/03/2026 16:55

Well the US are quite far along with achieving those stated goals so that's why I think they have credibility.

No, they aren't quite far along with achieving their goals at all

They're losing this war and clearly had no genuine plan when starting it, their objectives have failed miserably and when it's over their influence in the Middle East will have been severely weakened whilst also strengthening Iran massively.

TheignT · 12/03/2026 08:44

KatiePricesKnickers · 12/03/2026 06:49

I’m not desperate to defend anyone.
Do you genuinely believe the American military deliberately bombed a school when there was a perfectly legitimate target next door?

There have been horrific stories about the US in the past. Civilians targeted in Vietnam, illegal war started in Iraq, Guantanamo Bay torture. Deliberately targeting schools? Who knows.

Alexandra2001 · 12/03/2026 08:50

In the Iraq war, some 200 primary schools were bombed by the coalition forces.

Doubtless all "Accidental"

I think some countries see killing children as "Killing the enemy before they are old enough to hold a gun" and as a means to demoralise the population.

oldtiredcyclist · 12/03/2026 09:03

KatiePricesKnickers · 12/03/2026 06:49

I’m not desperate to defend anyone.
Do you genuinely believe the American military deliberately bombed a school when there was a perfectly legitimate target next door?

At least 13 hospitals and health facilities have been hit in Iran, that doesn't happen by accident, added to which, it is exactly what the IDF were doing in Gaza.

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2026/mar/05/at-least-dozen-hospital-and-health-facilities-in-iran-hit-since-us-israel-attacks-began-who-says

At least 13 hospitals and health facilities hit during attacks on Iran, WHO says

Global health body investigating reports that four medics are among the 1,230 people killed in Iran since start of war

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2026/mar/05/at-least-dozen-hospital-and-health-facilities-in-iran-hit-since-us-israel-attacks-began-who-says

paloma7 · 12/03/2026 09:14

I can't understand why this is not today's headline news, all over the world, now that video footage proves the missile that hit the school was US / Israeli.

On the day this happened, Hegseth did that repulsive speech about 'quiet death from the air.' Yes he was taking about taking out the Ayatollah regime but even then, there is no need for this kind of language. Now, in light of all these children killed in the same strikes, the speech is diabolical. America and Israel are the shame of the Western world. I have no words really.

Twiglets1 · 12/03/2026 09:18

SherlockStones · 12/03/2026 08:43

No, they aren't quite far along with achieving their goals at all

They're losing this war and clearly had no genuine plan when starting it, their objectives have failed miserably and when it's over their influence in the Middle East will have been severely weakened whilst also strengthening Iran massively.

So much delusion in one post.

It's Iran who are losing their influence in the ME due to their stupid decision to start attacking their neighbours.

Qatar wants to bolster security partnership with US after Iran's strikes

Qatar hosts the biggest U.S. base in the Middle East, Al Udeid Air Base, which was attacked by Iran during the war that erupted on February 28.

The spokesperson, Majed Al Ansari, told a media briefing on Tuesday the security partnership with the United States was not in question, but added that its deals with the U.S. and European countries need to be strengthened.

"The partnerships are the main stop-gap and deterrent against any attack on our country," he added.

"When things go out of control and spiral, the result is deterrents do not work... But that doesn't mean you shouldn't have deterrents. You should strengthen these deterrents and that is exactly what are we trying to do right," Al Ansari said.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/qatar-wants-bolster-security-partnership-with-us-after-irans-strikes-2026-03-10/

SherlockStones · 12/03/2026 09:27

Twiglets1 · 12/03/2026 09:18

So much delusion in one post.

It's Iran who are losing their influence in the ME due to their stupid decision to start attacking their neighbours.

Qatar wants to bolster security partnership with US after Iran's strikes

Qatar hosts the biggest U.S. base in the Middle East, Al Udeid Air Base, which was attacked by Iran during the war that erupted on February 28.

The spokesperson, Majed Al Ansari, told a media briefing on Tuesday the security partnership with the United States was not in question, but added that its deals with the U.S. and European countries need to be strengthened.

"The partnerships are the main stop-gap and deterrent against any attack on our country," he added.

"When things go out of control and spiral, the result is deterrents do not work... But that doesn't mean you shouldn't have deterrents. You should strengthen these deterrents and that is exactly what are we trying to do right," Al Ansari said.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/qatar-wants-bolster-security-partnership-with-us-after-irans-strikes-2026-03-10/

We'll see how that partnership goes considering how the US has failed to protect it's so called allies thus far

There's no delusion at all, Iran are winning and it's clear as day.

US has failed in it's initial main objective, has spent ridiculous sums of money and is running out of key munitions whilst oil prices continue to soar. This war will prove to be a grave mistake for the Trump administration and also for the US in the years to come especially in terms of influence in the region.

All they've proved is that aren't so mighty or superior and that they've also got an absolute dunce at the helm of the country.

RichardOnslowRoper · 12/03/2026 09:33

I believe Trump was warned Iran would attack the Gulf countries but refused to believe it.
I don't think there are any winners in this war.

rainingsnoring · 12/03/2026 09:46

SherlockStones · 12/03/2026 08:43

No, they aren't quite far along with achieving their goals at all

They're losing this war and clearly had no genuine plan when starting it, their objectives have failed miserably and when it's over their influence in the Middle East will have been severely weakened whilst also strengthening Iran massively.

I'm not sure if it will strengthen Iran or not but the US have got nowhere in terms of achieving their goals.

The Iranians didn't rise up when the US begged them to.
The Kurds have refused to join in the US war so that they can die.
The Iranians are continuing to fight and are mounting an extremely effective defense, particularly blocking the Straits of H, as they told the US they would in advance.

It seems fairly likely that the gulf countries will be asking the US to remove their bases if this continues as their presence is causing them to be attacked, meaning a much reduced influence over the region.

rainingsnoring · 12/03/2026 09:48

paloma7 · 12/03/2026 09:14

I can't understand why this is not today's headline news, all over the world, now that video footage proves the missile that hit the school was US / Israeli.

On the day this happened, Hegseth did that repulsive speech about 'quiet death from the air.' Yes he was taking about taking out the Ayatollah regime but even then, there is no need for this kind of language. Now, in light of all these children killed in the same strikes, the speech is diabolical. America and Israel are the shame of the Western world. I have no words really.

I completely agree. Hesgeth comes across as a psychopath to me.

rainingsnoring · 12/03/2026 09:49

RichardOnslowRoper · 12/03/2026 09:33

I believe Trump was warned Iran would attack the Gulf countries but refused to believe it.
I don't think there are any winners in this war.

Yes, no winners here. It was very, very foolish of the US to follow Israel's 'orders' to start this war.

HappyFace2025 · 12/03/2026 09:54

rainingsnoring · 12/03/2026 09:49

Yes, no winners here. It was very, very foolish of the US to follow Israel's 'orders' to start this war.

Israel's 'orders' ?

BelleHathor · 12/03/2026 09:54

rainingsnoring · 12/03/2026 09:48

I completely agree. Hesgeth comes across as a psychopath to me.

There have been allegations about Hegseth's abuse of alcohol. His ex sister in law signed a sworn affidavit and have evidence of his abusive behaviour whilst married to her sister.

https://www.npr.org/2025/01/22/nx-s1-5270033/pete-hegseth-faces-new-allegations-of-alcohol-abuse-and-misconduct

RichardOnslowRoper · 12/03/2026 09:55

rainingsnoring · 12/03/2026 09:48

I completely agree. Hesgeth comes across as a psychopath to me.

Hegseth has also said the war was never intended to be a " fair fight".
I am so tired of the US lecturing other nations about human rights.

Twiglets1 · 12/03/2026 10:12

Are wars ever intended to be a fair fight? Almost always wars are started by those that think they can win them. It’s pretty stupid to start a war if you’re not confident you can dominate the other side & win.

SherlockStones · 12/03/2026 10:15

rainingsnoring · 12/03/2026 09:46

I'm not sure if it will strengthen Iran or not but the US have got nowhere in terms of achieving their goals.

The Iranians didn't rise up when the US begged them to.
The Kurds have refused to join in the US war so that they can die.
The Iranians are continuing to fight and are mounting an extremely effective defense, particularly blocking the Straits of H, as they told the US they would in advance.

It seems fairly likely that the gulf countries will be asking the US to remove their bases if this continues as their presence is causing them to be attacked, meaning a much reduced influence over the region.

Long term I think it will strengthen Iran both domestically and regionally.

Nothing can bring the people of a country together like killing it's leadership and an existential threat.

But agreed on US losing it's influence, by the time it's over can easily see them being asked to leave by their allies and also Iran who have found out being so close to the US ultimately not worth it.

Additionally, can see Israel taking a major hit in terms of it's bloodthirsty intent for hegemony of the region. Iran has the leverage here which they never would have had before without being attacked which has ibeen inadvertently handed to them on a silver platter by both the US and Israel