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Mass grave prepared for the school girl massacre, 165 souls

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Dirtydianaoh · 04/03/2026 01:34

For a nation to say they care about women and girl rights and liberation, and then to bomb a school wtf?!
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rainingsnoring · 09/03/2026 08:25

Sherbs12 · 09/03/2026 07:27

@Twiglets1 Trump has certainly proven that he’s capable of starting his own conflicts with his own agenda (especially if we consider the people he’s selected like Hegseth and Miller); however, Rubio initially stated that the US bombings in Iran were pre-emptive strikes, as they knew they would be targets once they learnt Israel were about to attack Iran. Blinken has also given an interview explaining how Israel tried to pressure Obama into bombing Iran in a similar way and he resisted. The combination of Netanyahu and Trump is lethal for us all.

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It is indeed. I strongly suspect that the Israelis have something on DJT (see Epstein files) and that he has been persuaded to do this to preserve his power and reputation. I think he thought it the Iranians would be toppled within a couple of days.

rainingsnoring · 09/03/2026 08:27

Wellthisisdifficult · 09/03/2026 08:16

I’m sorry, but are you (incorrectly) stating that Iran does not have a nuclear weapons programme?

It has a nuclear program but has not produced a nuclear weapon as yet.

Twiglets1 · 09/03/2026 08:28

rainingsnoring · 09/03/2026 08:16

Ridiculous comment trying to pretend that Israel should be praised for not using their nuclear weapons, although in the next comment, you seem to be suggesting that they might not have them after all. Do you not understand the implications of using nuclear weapons?! Israel has been starting wars in the ME for decades- see 'Bibi's bomb picture. This war, if it doesn't have a stop put to it very, very quickly, has the potential to create total havoc worldwide and be one trigger for a major economic crash (it was coming anyway but this would make it far worse). It's pretty obvious that DJT is starting to panic already (see his crazy truth social post telling the US public off for complaining about the high petrol prices.

Please stop tagging me.

What I'm "suggesting" is no more or less than what I said. It's factual that Israel have not confirmed or denied whether they have nuclear weapons. We wouldn't know for sure either way (though I would be surprised if they don't) because if they do have them, they haven't used them.

I never said they should be "praised" for that. You put words into my mouth which is why I don't like debating with you. I also don't like debating with you because of your tendency to use demeaning language such as ridiculous comment and Do you not understand the implications of using nuclear weapons?!

So again, please stop tagging me.

rainingsnoring · 09/03/2026 08:34

Twiglets1 · 09/03/2026 08:28

Please stop tagging me.

What I'm "suggesting" is no more or less than what I said. It's factual that Israel have not confirmed or denied whether they have nuclear weapons. We wouldn't know for sure either way (though I would be surprised if they don't) because if they do have them, they haven't used them.

I never said they should be "praised" for that. You put words into my mouth which is why I don't like debating with you. I also don't like debating with you because of your tendency to use demeaning language such as ridiculous comment and Do you not understand the implications of using nuclear weapons?!

So again, please stop tagging me.

I'm quoting your posts, as I have quoted some others too. Others have also quoted mine. That's how it works on here in a debate.

You did imply that Israel should be praised for not using their nuclear weapons 'under extreme provocation'. Yes, I do find that comment ridiculous. It really is a bit rich of you to suggest that I am putting words in your mouth when you did exactly that to me the other days, accusing me of actively supported the Iranian regime. That's only one example, as you know. You can't behave like that and then complain when others strongly disagree with you.

Alexandra2001 · 09/03/2026 08:38

Twiglets1 · 09/03/2026 07:47

Politically the US and the UK are allies & that’s just fact.

Nothing to do with whether we agree with it or not or whether Starmer & Trump are friends which they obviously are not!

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Err where did i say they were friends or even implied that??

As to whether the UK/USA are allies, no thats not a fact at all....its just yyour inaccurate opinion.... the evidence is & ignore what Trump is now doing to the World Economy/Iran and look at Ukraine and the USA's actions over a direct threat to European and hence our security.

Then there is tariffs and Greenland.

Not the actions of a friend, Trump has now caused the UK an economic shock on par or possibly exceeding the Ukraine energy crisis....

...an ally 😡

Sherbs12 · 09/03/2026 08:42

Apologies if it’s already been mentioned, but the extremist Christians who support Trump are another alarming and significant influence on this too - there have been complaints from troops that their seniors have been stating that this war is part of God’s divine plan.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/03/us-israel-iran-war-christian-rhetoric

There’s a very interesting documentary BBC Storyville documentary ‘Praying for Armageddon’ on the Evangelical Christians in the US and their influence on US-Israel policy.

US troops were told war on Iran was ‘all part of God’s divine plan’, watchdog alleges

Religious freedom group says 200 troops sent complaints of superiors using extremist Christian rhetoric to justify war

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/03/us-israel-iran-war-christian-rhetoric

Twiglets1 · 09/03/2026 08:50

Alexandra2001 · 09/03/2026 08:38

Err where did i say they were friends or even implied that??

As to whether the UK/USA are allies, no thats not a fact at all....its just yyour inaccurate opinion.... the evidence is & ignore what Trump is now doing to the World Economy/Iran and look at Ukraine and the USA's actions over a direct threat to European and hence our security.

Then there is tariffs and Greenland.

Not the actions of a friend, Trump has now caused the UK an economic shock on par or possibly exceeding the Ukraine energy crisis....

...an ally 😡

You seem to be confusing the word allies with friends - even in the above post you are saying "not the actions of a friend".

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Endoflight · 09/03/2026 09:00

30000 protesters were shot by the Islamic regime

Women’s faces, chests and genitals were targeted in order to destroy the beauty of women and make them permanently disabled

Please refer to Guardian article
https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2026/feb/17/x-rays-injuries-iran-protesters-hospital-birdshot-bullets

Children are being used as human shields by the Islamic regime

Civilians are being shot sitting on their balconies or in the back walking down the street by the Islamic regime

The attacks by the US and Israel are humanitarian and targeted. I do not believe for one second that the school was blown up by the US or Israel. I do believe that the terrorist regime of the Islamic republic would do this to their OWN people

‘Deliberate targeting of vital body parts’: X-rays taken after Iran protests expose extent of catastrophic injuries

Exclusive: Expert analysis of images from one hospital suggests severe trauma to the face, chest and genitals was caused by metal birdshot and high-calibre bullets

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2026/feb/17/x-rays-injuries-iran-protesters-hospital-birdshot-bullets

Endoflight · 09/03/2026 09:10

And Mumsnet, please can you reflect on the language in the title of ‘Mass graves’ ‘massacre’ despite the fact 30000 people have been MURDERED and driven in ice cream vans with their blood stuck together as they’ve been piled high to the top by the ISLAMIC REGIME, body bags have lined the streets since January.

Please see article https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2026/jan/27/iran-protests-death-toll-disappeared-bodies-mass-burials-30000-dead

I have created threads on the barbarity of the Islamic regime which have been shut down in literally two seconds for being ‘generalised’

Here, a thread which is extremely one sided and blind to the atrocities of the regime is allowed to continue with pages of posts.

“For a nation to say they care about women and girl rights and liberation, and then to bomb a school wtf?!”

Is the above not ‘generalised’ ???

How is this allowed but my thread on the dangers of Islamic extremism was shut down almost immediately. Do you deny 30000 people were shot by the Islamic regime? Do you deny that women’s faces and vaginas have been purposefully shot to maime them for life?

What is going on Mumsnet?

Disappeared bodies, mass burials and ‘30,000 dead’: what is the truth of Iran’s death toll?

Testimony from medics, morgue and graveyard staff reveals huge state effort to conceal systematic killing of protesters

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2026/jan/27/iran-protests-death-toll-disappeared-bodies-mass-burials-30000-dead

Ihatetomatoes · 09/03/2026 09:19

oldtiredcyclist · 09/03/2026 06:42

Iran has never demanded that they should have nuclear weapons, in fact, quite the opposite, which was backed up by the CIA and other US agencies. It was only the mad criminal in Israel, who for the last 35 years has been insisting that they are just weeks away from having a nuclear weapon.
Meanwhile, it is Israel who have never signed up to the non proliferation treaty, despite having at least 400 nuclear weapons, they are truly evil.

"Israel....they are truly evil". All of them?

Meanwhile, Iran gets a pass. Interesting.

Alexandra2001 · 09/03/2026 09:19

Endoflight · 09/03/2026 09:10

And Mumsnet, please can you reflect on the language in the title of ‘Mass graves’ ‘massacre’ despite the fact 30000 people have been MURDERED and driven in ice cream vans with their blood stuck together as they’ve been piled high to the top by the ISLAMIC REGIME, body bags have lined the streets since January.

Please see article https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2026/jan/27/iran-protests-death-toll-disappeared-bodies-mass-burials-30000-dead

I have created threads on the barbarity of the Islamic regime which have been shut down in literally two seconds for being ‘generalised’

Here, a thread which is extremely one sided and blind to the atrocities of the regime is allowed to continue with pages of posts.

“For a nation to say they care about women and girl rights and liberation, and then to bomb a school wtf?!”

Is the above not ‘generalised’ ???

How is this allowed but my thread on the dangers of Islamic extremism was shut down almost immediately. Do you deny 30000 people were shot by the Islamic regime? Do you deny that women’s faces and vaginas have been purposefully shot to maime them for life?

What is going on Mumsnet?

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Plenty of terrible evil regimes around the world, that kill 10s of 1000s of their own peoples, shall we attack them all?

Approx 90k killed in Myanmar, then there is Sudan... we seem to turn a blind eye to these.

EasternStandard · 09/03/2026 09:22

Endoflight · 09/03/2026 09:00

30000 protesters were shot by the Islamic regime

Women’s faces, chests and genitals were targeted in order to destroy the beauty of women and make them permanently disabled

Please refer to Guardian article
https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2026/feb/17/x-rays-injuries-iran-protesters-hospital-birdshot-bullets

Children are being used as human shields by the Islamic regime

Civilians are being shot sitting on their balconies or in the back walking down the street by the Islamic regime

The attacks by the US and Israel are humanitarian and targeted. I do not believe for one second that the school was blown up by the US or Israel. I do believe that the terrorist regime of the Islamic republic would do this to their OWN people

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So awful @Endoflight

Ihatetomatoes · 09/03/2026 09:23

KatiePricesKnickers · 09/03/2026 06:49

@oldtiredcyclist If Iran’s nuclear program was peaceful and benign, why did they build everything deep underground away from inspection?

Don’t forget ‘Death to America!’ ‘Death to Israel!’ and the Islamic regime murdering 30,000 of their own citizens.

Indeed.

Do people take those chants as "cheerful little ditties" a bit like the other ditties often joined in with on protest marches, "from the river to the sea....." and "Houthis, Houthis, make us PROUD, turn another ship around ". You'd have to be a bit of an idiot to join in with some of those. 🙄

Dragonflytamer · 09/03/2026 09:23

Allah has really doubled down on the Khamenei family. He must be angry at what has happened. Maybe the UK has had right for centuries that gods do really prefer heredity monarchies, rather than having people interfere with their choice of leader.

rainingsnoring · 09/03/2026 09:24

Endoflight · 09/03/2026 09:10

And Mumsnet, please can you reflect on the language in the title of ‘Mass graves’ ‘massacre’ despite the fact 30000 people have been MURDERED and driven in ice cream vans with their blood stuck together as they’ve been piled high to the top by the ISLAMIC REGIME, body bags have lined the streets since January.

Please see article https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2026/jan/27/iran-protests-death-toll-disappeared-bodies-mass-burials-30000-dead

I have created threads on the barbarity of the Islamic regime which have been shut down in literally two seconds for being ‘generalised’

Here, a thread which is extremely one sided and blind to the atrocities of the regime is allowed to continue with pages of posts.

“For a nation to say they care about women and girl rights and liberation, and then to bomb a school wtf?!”

Is the above not ‘generalised’ ???

How is this allowed but my thread on the dangers of Islamic extremism was shut down almost immediately. Do you deny 30000 people were shot by the Islamic regime? Do you deny that women’s faces and vaginas have been purposefully shot to maime them for life?

What is going on Mumsnet?

Edited

This thead is about the murder of 160 school girls by the US and Israel and about the war they have chosen to start, which has already caused many thousands of Iranian deaths.
If you want to start a thread about the Iranian regime, you can do that. Someone else could start a thread about the genocide that Israel has been and continues to carry out in Gaza.

Endoflight · 09/03/2026 09:24

@Alexandra2001
But we do have a thread that is allowed to continue for pages on the ‘massacre’ by the US of 180 when there is barely a whisper for 30000 people being killed by their OWN government?

It sounds like you don’t give a damn about the Iranian people, this is just Anti-America

The Iranian people are welcoming the support. So who is this post defending? Because it is NOT the Iranian people.

Ihatetomatoes · 09/03/2026 09:27

Endoflight · 09/03/2026 09:10

And Mumsnet, please can you reflect on the language in the title of ‘Mass graves’ ‘massacre’ despite the fact 30000 people have been MURDERED and driven in ice cream vans with their blood stuck together as they’ve been piled high to the top by the ISLAMIC REGIME, body bags have lined the streets since January.

Please see article https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2026/jan/27/iran-protests-death-toll-disappeared-bodies-mass-burials-30000-dead

I have created threads on the barbarity of the Islamic regime which have been shut down in literally two seconds for being ‘generalised’

Here, a thread which is extremely one sided and blind to the atrocities of the regime is allowed to continue with pages of posts.

“For a nation to say they care about women and girl rights and liberation, and then to bomb a school wtf?!”

Is the above not ‘generalised’ ???

How is this allowed but my thread on the dangers of Islamic extremism was shut down almost immediately. Do you deny 30000 people were shot by the Islamic regime? Do you deny that women’s faces and vaginas have been purposefully shot to maime them for life?

What is going on Mumsnet?

Edited

Indeed.

The silence when all those poor Iranians were just slaughtered by their own regime. The voices are loud when killed in a war. Its predictable.

rainingsnoring · 09/03/2026 09:30

Endoflight · 09/03/2026 09:24

@Alexandra2001
But we do have a thread that is allowed to continue for pages on the ‘massacre’ by the US of 180 when there is barely a whisper for 30000 people being killed by their OWN government?

It sounds like you don’t give a damn about the Iranian people, this is just Anti-America

The Iranian people are welcoming the support. So who is this post defending? Because it is NOT the Iranian people.

Edited

As I said already, this post is about some murders of innocent civilians, something that has happened as a direct result of Israel and the US choosing to start a war, by attacking Iran. If you want to start another thread about Iranian atrocities, you can do that. The Israelis have murdered hundreds of thousands in Gaza already but the thread is not about that either.

Can you point out where I said that I don't give a damn about the Iranian people please? I could just as easily turn that exact comment on you as you have completely ignored the title of the thread and the current murder and destruction in Iran at US/Israeli hands and decided to comment on something else. Some Iranians welcome 'the support' (hardly support is it-see thread title), many others do not support US and Israeli interference in their country. I very much doubt many in Iran support blowing up their capital city and bombing their desalination plants. What do you think?

rainingsnoring · 09/03/2026 09:31

Ihatetomatoes · 09/03/2026 09:27

Indeed.

The silence when all those poor Iranians were just slaughtered by their own regime. The voices are loud when killed in a war. Its predictable.

Have you commented about all the Iranians who have been killed by the actions of the US and Israel, including the murdered children? If not, why not? Ask yourself that.

HappyFace2025 · 09/03/2026 09:41

FloralDeerPattern · 09/03/2026 07:56

And for all of their 'Death to America' 'Death to Israel' they've never double tapped an American or Israeli school killing over 100 little girls.

The main players in this are all disgusting with no regard for innocent lives, none of them are peaceful or benign. It's sickening that people support any of them.

If Israel didn't have the Iron Dome Defense system I have no doubt that more than '100 little girls' would have been killed by Hamas (aka Iran).

FloralDeerPattern · 09/03/2026 09:44

Ihatetomatoes · 09/03/2026 09:19

"Israel....they are truly evil". All of them?

Meanwhile, Iran gets a pass. Interesting.

There is only one Israel.

HappyFace2025 · 09/03/2026 09:46

rainingsnoring · 09/03/2026 08:25

It is indeed. I strongly suspect that the Israelis have something on DJT (see Epstein files) and that he has been persuaded to do this to preserve his power and reputation. I think he thought it the Iranians would be toppled within a couple of days.

That is a ridiculous supposition. Trump needed no persuasion - he blindly supposes that this will help him win the Nobel Prize for Peace.

FloralDeerPattern · 09/03/2026 09:52

HappyFace2025 · 09/03/2026 09:41

If Israel didn't have the Iron Dome Defense system I have no doubt that more than '100 little girls' would have been killed by Hamas (aka Iran).

Meanwhile over 100 were killed by the US and Israel. This is on top of the 20000 children Israel have killed in the past 2 years, probably 10000 of them little girls.

It's all Iran would, Hamas would meanwhile Israel and the US are actually doing it. Israel with the help of the US has killed 1 child every single hour, every single day for 2 whole years. They've actually done the thing we are told Iran and Hamas are so evil for thinking about. Hamas and Iran are awful that's true, but what does that make Israel the country that has actually gone out there and killed a child an hour for 2 years?

HappyFace2025 · 09/03/2026 09:53

rainingsnoring · 09/03/2026 09:24

This thead is about the murder of 160 school girls by the US and Israel and about the war they have chosen to start, which has already caused many thousands of Iranian deaths.
If you want to start a thread about the Iranian regime, you can do that. Someone else could start a thread about the genocide that Israel has been and continues to carry out in Gaza.

Someone else could start a thread about the genocide that Israel has been and continues to carry out in Gaza.

There have been dozens of threads about Israel and Gaza since 7 October 2023. There has been no genocide.

HappyFace2025 · 09/03/2026 09:55

FloralDeerPattern · 09/03/2026 09:44

There is only one Israel.

Exactly. Just one Jewish majority state while there are currently 50 Muslim majority states in the world.