Mass grave prepared for the school girl massacre, 165 souls

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For a nation to say they care about women and girl rights and liberation, and then to bomb a school wtf?!
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'International diplomacy is the only way that ever really worked'
Worked so well during the 1930s didn't it? And yet took 6 years of fighting to rid ourselves of the Nazis and Japanese. Because of 'diplomacy' UK among others was woefully unprepared for WW2 (as are we now).

We are not the super power we once were, we are under prepared/incapable because of the chronic un-funding of defence, which we have largely voted for.

This may or may not happen re other groups replacing Hamas, but Hamas as an organisation have lost their current war in Gaza, whether they officially surrender or not. Unless you can look at what they have achieved in Gaza and somehow frame that as "winning".

I think you have just proved my point that it hasn't been a genocide if 5% of the residents have been killed since 8 October 2023.

A bucket with a hole in the top presumably.

Why are you mis representing what i said?

"Hamas haven't lost as such" is not stating they are winning, so why the lies...

You really don't get it do you? the Palestinians still want a homeland, still want Israel gone, none of what has happened will change that, there are millions of Palestinians, of course new more blood thirsty versions will appear.

All the children made orphans in Gaza are rich pickings for the radicals.

We can't even send one ship to defend our airbase for 1-2 weeks...... The US track record is poor. Let's not forget that Trump put the Taliban in power in Afghanistan. Now he seems to want to put a Kurdish militia in charge by arming them.

UK hasn't been a 'super power' since the 19th century. The empire collapsed mid 20th century. I agree about the chronic underfunding of defence (don't remember ever voting for or against it) We are now paying the price of consistently poor government.

Not at all Twiglets. It is entirely different to falsely accuse people of anti semetism for criticising the actions of the Israelis gov. or IDF and quite another to criticise someone for saying that they hate all Jews or all brown people or all Arabs. Totally different things.

If you voted Tory in 1992, Lab in 1997 etc and Tory in the last 5 GE's you voted for more defence cuts.

Badenoch (as part of Sunaks Govt) went into the the last GE promising even more defence cuts.

It was all there to see.

Yes, that Rubio press conference was an utter embarrassment wasn't it.
Anti semite is thrown around incorrectly constantly.

Where are these people ? I don’t see anyone justifying it

You don't have to kill everyone for it to be a genocide. 5% is significant part of the population, especially when that is weighted towards the women and children. 10% of Gazan women have been killed.

This is such a depressing thread. "It's all ok, they only killed 1 in 10 women"

You don't understand what genocide is so I'll no longer argue that point with you.
Of course proportionally many more women and children died - Hamas has never provided protection for its civilians in Gaza. Only Hamas operatives were able to take cover in their tunnels.

I didn’t say you were wrong about the number . I said you are wrong that Ireland are any semites and Nazi bedfellows. I didn’t specify a number .

You don't understand what genocide is

I think it is you that is struggling with the legal definition of genocide

Please explain it to me? What did you mean by Hamas haven't lost as such?

That's fine let's leave the genocide point, as other poster have said they you should really look into it.

If the IDF killing 10% of women is acceptable to you - we have nothing in common.

I think you’re following a common misconception here. Genocide has a very specific definition within international law. It has little to do with numbers killed. Central to the definition there has to be an intent to destroy, in whole, or in part a particular group, that group has to be a national, ethnical, racial, or religious group. To most its clear that Israel were targeting Hamas, a group it defines as a terrorist group they were attempting to recover their own citizens and destroy the ability for Hamas to attack them again. This does not meet the definition of genocide. It’s clear Hamas were using women and children as human shields.

I don't need to 'look into it'. My family died during the Holocaust. That was a genocide.

@Wellthisisdifficult thank you for your explanation of what a genocide is in real terms.

So did mine. I still don’t agree with Israel’s actions . Whether you call it a genocide or something else it was evil and wrong .

How would you have liked them to respond to a group (who have set out as one of their main objective to wipe Israel off the map) invaded their territory raping and murdering over 1,000 people in cold blood, men, women and children and kidnapping hundreds more?

What were Israel to do when Hamas started using women and children as human shields?

If you don’t agree with Israel’s actions, Pressumably you have a better alternative in mind?

Well not starving the innocent citizens and blocking all aid coming through to them would be a start.

I think you should apologise now. What do you mean ‘people like me’ I said it was Israel’s war not that Netanyahu controls Trump.

You’re incapable of being taken seriously given that you read whatever you want to see and defend Israel at any cost. Nobody is madly supporting America here but the fact remains that Israel planned to strike.

The refusal to acknowledge - just acknowledge it - that America hasn’t claimed Iran bombed the school. That should tell you something. It doesn’t of course but it should.