My DH has been brainwashed by tick tock conspiracies

[Stressymessymum]

It’s a bit long but I’m unsure how to deal with this behaviour.

during lockdown my DH ( previously was never into anything like this. was very normal, works in a hospital) fell into a habit of listening to conspiracy podcasts - he thought it was interesting and I didn’t think much of it. This hobby has carried on but increased and the last 3 months his behaviour is really off.

examples

No longer wants to vaccinate our children (oldest 2 are fully vaccinated, baby has had newborn jabs but not one year yet)

wants to home educate because he believes the schools are full of paedophiles and other kids ‘shed’ vaccinations. He doesn’t actually want to do any home ed. I think it’s something called unschooling but we both work full time. I’ve asked him for a plan on how he thinks it will work and he can’t tell me.

won’t let children socialise outside of school. Has removed them from clubs (for the same reasons as above.

wont socialise with vaccinated people (included our families)

wont drink Tap water. Baths in bottled water

refusing to pay council tax as it’s a made up scam (I do pay this 😂)

believes NASA/ moon landing/ 911/ holocaust ( and a long list of other things) is made up

That’s just the tip of the iceberg really…

I’ve tried to talk to him about it but he gets really angry and starts ranting.

who on earth do i talk to about this? I know he’s allowed his own beliefs but he’s dragging our children into it and the way it’s escalated I’m a bit scared xx

This happened to a friend of mine over covid - perfectly normal rational human being (before), who decided that everything was an enormous conspiracy theory. Sent out many, many videos etc and refused to engage with any counter arguments.

I think the issue is that there is always a little bit of truth to some of the "conspiracy theories" - vaccines can sometimes cause harm, but for the vast majority the benefits far outway the drawbacks and drug companies in the US do massively oversell drugs - without explaining that most also have side effects. (We're pretty good in the UK at not over prescribing)

Anyway, she has managed to dig herself out of the conspiracy theory hole and become a shamanic healer, which seems to have grouped all her odd ideas into one thing - which is very, very harmless.

I know a couple of blokes into all this..they feed off each other, videos, you tube, GB news..
Unfortunately all the Epstein stuff has reinforced their views. Mass paedophile network of elites, mass murder, Jewish conspiracy, Disney, satanic elites etc is all in there as their evidence. Now its 'we told you, now whose right' smugness.

Unfortunately, you can't argue with it, its a belief, almost cult like.

Wow happy your gone so your not shedding anymore...i know he is clearly not a well man, but your long term plan needs to involve you and your children being in the family home. He needs to leave.

@Stressymessymum okay so the weed is probably a big deal

It's a big factor in paranoia

Also, he's being totally illogical. He's vaccinated, but he's worried about you guys shedding

That doesn't make any sense. I mean, obviously he's unwell, but that really confirms it.

I actually wonder if you should involve social services. Cos at the minute, this man has as much right to your kids as you do, but he doesn’t sound well at all.

Oh yeah..and they are into the covid scam, vaccines designed to kill and maim, only drinking filtered water, anyone who is ill in any way is due to stupidity at being vaccinated, but if they themselves are ill its the body detoxing itself.

Add all weather is being controlled by elites through geoengineering and this winter is designed to make everyone susceptible to illness so the vaccines can trigger cancer and illness..
Add flat earth,Firmament, Dome over earth, Lizard people, dragons but no dinosaurs..

You could also try your local drugs & alcohol service who usually support family members as well as people with problematic drug use.

A solicitor too - start making plans re divorce.

Consider finding contact details for someone at his job and passing the information on there. Also consider not doing this if there's no risk to people as him losing his job is likely to impact any divorce settlement.

So have you been telling the children to lie to him? Glad you’ve decided to leave as that is clearly not a healthy environment for them.

I think you need to flag this with all the services- his GP, yours, social services. I would also ring back the crisis team with the latest update.

you also need to get him out of the home.

Feel your pain, you are doing the right thing protecting your children. I would speak to a family law solicitor also to see what actions you might need to take to safeguard your little ones, your finances and home etc. I've responded because I'm a victim of a similar situation which has been on going since COVID. We've had Qanon, all sorts of conspiracies, and according to my DH of 30 years,Trump is the new Messiah🤔I now live under what feels like coercive control. I'm currently suffering with a bad virus as not able to get to the chemist do my flu jab in secret 😕 from my other half before Christmas. I normally would and I do all other medical things in secret now. I have challenged, suffered mentally and even told DH he's joined the Moonies! I have picked my neuro diverse son up after he tried to recruit him, he's had counselling and is in a safer place now away at Uni. I have set the boundary that no monies are sent to or put into what he believes in, he does not do anything that puts our security at risk such attending marches etc and getting arrested. I work in an occupation where living in a household with a clean criminal record is essential and I will continue to do all I can to protect myself so that I have my life raft to escape.I live in my own world now, am building a runaway fund and I leave him to be in his. He gets short shift now if he comes with his views. The internet, Telegram and many other sites are the source of all of the brainwashing, or like others have said, a form of radicalisation. Keep your network of family and friends and sending my thoughts to keep you strong and safe xx

Whilst I agree in the main, the Covid vaccine triggered an immune response in me that caused my body to attack my kidneys which are now slowly, but surely failing. This has been confirmed by a doctor. But I do believe overall vaccines are a good thing.

How bizarre. How is he worried about your vaccines shedding on him when he's had the same vaccines himself? I suppose he is having mental health issues, so he's not going to be consistent, but it's all just so odd.
The people I saw who believed in the shedding stuff hadn't had the COVID vaccine themselves but thought they'd catch it from others who had. They also described themselves as 'purebloods' and apparently were going to refuse blood transfusions if they ever needed one, as they didn't want to risk getting the blood of a vaccinated person! Completely bonkers but a bit more consistent.
Sounds like you've definitely done the right thing anyway. I'm sorry it's come to this; it must be an awful shock for you. 💐 x

What’s the house situation? He’s glad you left, but I don’t know if you plan to live with your parents long term?

Do you own or rent?

I think I would have to divorce him. He seems beyond help.

www.ox.ac.uk/news/2014-07-16-how-cannabis-causes-paranoia

The recent thread about a man that was sectioned comes automatically comes in to my mind. It was still in active this morning. It’s exactly how it started

I’m shocked you are staying married to a holocaust denier.

Does he think ‘they’ are ‘spraying the skies’ (chemtrails), out of curiosity?

Does he think the earth is flat?

I was briefly seeing someone who, it turned out, subscribed to this nonsense. He got most of it from Facebook! I’m not seeing him anymore.

Good luck. It seems to exert a powerful grip on people.

This is all so very sad, I know it's easy for us all to laugh and I did when you said, yes he smokes pot - but it's so sad for you that this is happening

Not saying he’s right about everything, but in a world where the president of the US can still hold office despite multiple credible sources linking him to an actual paedophile ring, while simultaneously breaching international law… do you really think everything is all rosy in the world?

A lot of people have lost trust in the systems.

I was so incensed I didn’t read your updates. Lots of love and luck, lovely x

I dont drink tap water but bathing in bottled water must cost a fortune? And does he heat it up on the oven first? Why does he need to bath in bottled water? Hes not drinking the bath water surely?

Sounds like early cannabis induced psychosis to me. I might be jumping the gun, but please look on you tube at three signs of psychosis by Dr Dominick Spottelli and see if any of it resonates.

This...and its difficult to argue when this is playing out. What seemed utterly vile and implausible is now reality. Even the most cynical anti conspiracy would wonder what comes next.

Can you all really blame him for questioning things when the world is how it is? The things coming out, like the Epstein files

Did he start weed as it helped him sleep? Much better soluions to that.