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cornflakecrunchie · 26/02/2026 17:41

..of asylum seekers..
On the news. Are we supposed to be impressed? They are just being shuffled elsewhere, aren't they?

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Poetnojo · 27/02/2026 20:12

CostOfLoving · 27/02/2026 20:07

@Poetnojo

There's data on this from another country, I think. I forget which one! But it was interesting reading. They'd broken down different types of crime by nationality.

Yes I read some of it awhile ago, absolutely hair raising to read, harrowing!
Some idiots seem to think women and girls are so worthless and unworthy of safety that they actually march in the streets to allow dangerous men flood into the country with open arms. I swear you couldn't make it up!

randomchap · 27/02/2026 20:17

mollypuss1 · 27/02/2026 19:25

Ok, how do we do this? You can’t tell who is going to be a dickhead by looking at them.

Which countries have the highest chance of producing dickheads?

Historically the UK has invaded much of the globe. I'd say that's a high chance of producing dickheads...

EasternStandard · 27/02/2026 20:21

randomchap · 27/02/2026 20:17

Historically the UK has invaded much of the globe. I'd say that's a high chance of producing dickheads...

Do you have an upper limit of how many should be given asylum at which point it becomes more difficult, or just however many would like it? No limit type situation

Tricket · 27/02/2026 20:26

randomchap · 27/02/2026 20:17

Historically the UK has invaded much of the globe. I'd say that's a high chance of producing dickheads...

Ok, and? Doesn't mean today's citizens deserve to be punished for it.

mollypuss1 · 27/02/2026 20:31

Tricket · 27/02/2026 20:26

Ok, and? Doesn't mean today's citizens deserve to be punished for it.

But you want to punish all asylum seekers for the actions of some? Please tell me you see the hypocrisy

Gingerbeersallround · 27/02/2026 20:31

mollypuss1 · 27/02/2026 19:07

See this is the point, I live in a VERY poor northern town. There is a hotel a short walk from me, in my neighbourhood, that houses hundreds of asylum seekers. The only anti social behaviour I ever see is from the flag shagging dickheads who stand outside all day (unless it’s raining of course) shouting vile abuse at anyone who comes and goes. These are not patriots, these are racists, plain and simple.

You were excusing thieves earlier due to the cost of living, you have a very high threshold as to what constitutes crime and anti social behaviour.

The rest of us have a lower threshold and want it eliminated before it escalates even further.

Tricket · 27/02/2026 20:33

mollypuss1 · 27/02/2026 20:31

But you want to punish all asylum seekers for the actions of some? Please tell me you see the hypocrisy

I want to protect all UK citizens because the actions of asylum seekers.

Poetnojo · 27/02/2026 20:43

mollypuss1 · 27/02/2026 20:31

But you want to punish all asylum seekers for the actions of some? Please tell me you see the hypocrisy

You want to put British women and girls at risk, and then complain about the people with genuine concerns.
'Sorry you’re dying but it’s not happening to me so I don’t actually give a shit”.
Please tell me you see the hypocrisy 😂

mollypuss1 · 27/02/2026 20:54

Poetnojo · 27/02/2026 20:05

In police-recorded and conviction data, foreign-born males show higher per-capita rates of sexual offences (including rape) than British-born males.

What the main UK data sources show

  1. Police, court, and prison statistics
Using Home Office, CPS, and Ministry of Justice data: Foreign-born males are overrepresented per capita among: suspects convicted offenders prisoners for sexual offences This is especially pronounced among: recent immigrants asylum-seeking populations men from regions with very different gender norms and legal standards around consent So per capita, male immigrants commit more sexual offences compared to British males.

You do have some concept of probability right?

The reasons why this may be true has already been gone over in depth previously. Coincidentally it was reported in Oct last year that foreign nationals are underrepresented as a proportion of prisoners jailed in England and Wales when compared with rates of incarceration among British citizens of similar age. This came from an analysis of government data by Oxford University. That’s the problem with statistics, they can often be manipulated and interpreted differently depending on the outcome you want. Ever heard of lies, damned lies and statistics?

As you have a concept of probability I am assuming you will be advising any offspring to never marry as you are 6 times more likely to be sexually abused by a partner or family member.

mollypuss1 · 27/02/2026 20:56

Gingerbeersallround · 27/02/2026 20:31

You were excusing thieves earlier due to the cost of living, you have a very high threshold as to what constitutes crime and anti social behaviour.

The rest of us have a lower threshold and want it eliminated before it escalates even further.

I never excused thieves due to the cost of living? You do understand using I was using an extreme example to make a point?

mollypuss1 · 27/02/2026 20:58

Poetnojo · 27/02/2026 20:43

You want to put British women and girls at risk, and then complain about the people with genuine concerns.
'Sorry you’re dying but it’s not happening to me so I don’t actually give a shit”.
Please tell me you see the hypocrisy 😂

I don’t want to put anyone at risk, including asylum seekers.

Poetnojo · 27/02/2026 21:01

@mollypuss1 "As you have a concept of probability I am assuming you will be advising any offspring to never marry as you are 6 times more likely to be sexually abused by a partner or family member."
Nah, I'll just advise them not to get involved with any illegal immigrants who are statistically more likely to harm them than non immigrants, or anyone coming from a country that treats and sees women as less than dogs who are seen as literally their property and think rape in a marriage is their given right.
I think that would be pretty solid advice, you know, risk mitigation 🤔

Poetnojo · 27/02/2026 21:03

mollypuss1 · 27/02/2026 20:58

I don’t want to put anyone at risk, including asylum seekers.

But allowing an influx of undocumented men into Britain is putting British women and girls at increased risk, you maybe just see them as collateral damage?

mollypuss1 · 27/02/2026 21:05

Poetnojo · 27/02/2026 21:01

@mollypuss1 "As you have a concept of probability I am assuming you will be advising any offspring to never marry as you are 6 times more likely to be sexually abused by a partner or family member."
Nah, I'll just advise them not to get involved with any illegal immigrants who are statistically more likely to harm them than non immigrants, or anyone coming from a country that treats and sees women as less than dogs who are seen as literally their property and think rape in a marriage is their given right.
I think that would be pretty solid advice, you know, risk mitigation 🤔

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Sadly the statistics show they are statistically more likely to be harmed by a British man, especially if they know them. But you’re not interested in the truth, you’re so far down your rabbit hole of hatred and ignorance that this dialogue has become pointless.

Tricket · 27/02/2026 21:05

mollypuss1 · 27/02/2026 20:58

I don’t want to put anyone at risk, including asylum seekers.

But you want to have asylum seekers here, putting UK citizens at risk.

Tricket · 27/02/2026 21:08

mollypuss1 · 27/02/2026 21:05

Sadly the statistics show they are statistically more likely to be harmed by a British man, especially if they know them. But you’re not interested in the truth, you’re so far down your rabbit hole of hatred and ignorance that this dialogue has become pointless.

And yet you ignore all the data about foreign migrants, ethnicity and crime.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0rn187prg4o

Was this okay for you?

Black and white photo of Natalie Shotter, a young white woman with dark hair

Natalie Shotter: Rapist and killer Mohamed Iidow jailed for life

Mum-of-three Natalie Shotter was unconscious on a park bench in Southall when she was attacked.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0rn187prg4o

Gingerbeersallround · 27/02/2026 21:14

mollypuss1 · 27/02/2026 20:56

I never excused thieves due to the cost of living? You do understand using I was using an extreme example to make a point?

Whether you steal milk or the crown jewels it is still classified as stealing and the culprit is a thief.

Poetnojo · 27/02/2026 21:15

mollypuss1 · 27/02/2026 21:05

Sadly the statistics show they are statistically more likely to be harmed by a British man, especially if they know them. But you’re not interested in the truth, you’re so far down your rabbit hole of hatred and ignorance that this dialogue has become pointless.

Why do you think they're statistically more likely to be harmed by a British man they are involved with? Because statistically most British women are involved with British men. That does not mean that if they were involved with an immigrant that they would be safer seeing as immigrants are more likely to harm women than British men are.
You understand per capita I assume?
Can you honestly tell me that you don't see the danger of importing 100s of 1000s of undocumented males from countries that treat women like absolute dogs? Are you really that willfully blind?

Poetnojo · 27/02/2026 21:21

@mollypuss1 Do you see British women and girls being harmed by immigrants as collateral damage? Why do you think all these 100s and 1000s of undocumented (and statistically far more dangerous than your common or garden British male) should just be allowed into the country? How is this approach benefitting Britain?

ThisOldThang · 27/02/2026 21:24

@Poetnojo - they are acceptable collateral damage for people that virtue signal by paroting their media programmed luxury beliefs.

Wellthisisdifficult · 27/02/2026 21:24

Poetnojo · 27/02/2026 21:15

Why do you think they're statistically more likely to be harmed by a British man they are involved with? Because statistically most British women are involved with British men. That does not mean that if they were involved with an immigrant that they would be safer seeing as immigrants are more likely to harm women than British men are.
You understand per capita I assume?
Can you honestly tell me that you don't see the danger of importing 100s of 1000s of undocumented males from countries that treat women like absolute dogs? Are you really that willfully blind?

I suspect most of the do gooders actually believe what they’re saying. I grew up in a small market town and moved away to live in Birmingham. Whenever I go back to my home town I always snigger at all the pro migration posters in windows. It’s unlikely many have met anyone from an ethnic minority, the only non Christians they know are probably agnostic or most likely have a large collection of crystals and worship some moon goddess. They have zero idea of sharia law, or what is like to live in areas of high immigration. It’s laughable if it wasn’t so pathetic. I’ve lived in areas of high immigration- it’s a danger to our country, culture and safety. Especially if you’re a woman. People need educating on what this all means.

climbintheback · 27/02/2026 21:33

Well now we just pay for the refurbishments and house them in x army barracks and stop them wandering all over the shop day and night!

SadTimesInFife · 27/02/2026 21:35

diddlrydeedoo · 26/02/2026 17:58

They aren’t illegal. They have the right to claim
asylum

France wasn't good enough?

Tricket · 27/02/2026 21:47

SadTimesInFife · 27/02/2026 21:35

France wasn't good enough?

I've actually been to Paris. It's a bit run down and you can clearly see the negative impacts of immigration but it's not all that bad.

CostOfLoving · 27/02/2026 21:55

The data I was referring to on crime stats was fascinating precisely because it broke it down by country of origin. Some migrant men were statistically less dangerous than men from whatever country it was that collected the stats. Some were far more dangerous, particularly for sexual crimes. From what I remember it didn't correlate with skin colour or directly with religion, just in case anyone thinks the stats are somehow racist. It seemed more clearly linked to specific cultures.

Also, however you look at it, asylum seekers in the UK should be specifically placed in well-to-do areas where people are in favour of migration, and diverted away from poor areas. This gives them a more pleasant start to life in the UK, in areas where they are welcome and are not run down and full of social problems, and neighbours who will gladly welcome them and help them integrate. And won't put pressure on areas where services are already overstretched. Win-win all round.