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cornflakecrunchie · 26/02/2026 17:41

..of asylum seekers..
On the news. Are we supposed to be impressed? They are just being shuffled elsewhere, aren't they?

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Crikeyalmighty · 27/02/2026 14:09

ThisOldThang · 27/02/2026 13:58

A friend's father (Jamaican) said that he thought the introduction of visa requirements for Jamaican tourists was fantastic. He believed it was responsible for the fall in gun crime, rather than Project Trident. He claimed that Yardy hitmen used to fly into the UK, murder members of rival gangs and then fly out the same day.

None of his family were criminals and always qualified for visas, so it didn't negatively impact him/them and the drop in gun crime helped to reduce the negative stereotypes around Jamaicans in the UK.

Sensible, lawful immigration and border vcontrols help everybody (except the criminal elements).

Totally agree -

notnorman · 27/02/2026 14:18

We (as in me and dh) are buying houses which councils are paying guaranteed £1000 a month for, for these people.
cheaper than hotel rooms but still a cost

LakieLady · 27/02/2026 14:18

Gingerbeersallround · 27/02/2026 12:36

We are off topic but if I was this fictional character milk would be prioritised over heating.

If they were on a prepayment meter for gas, there's every likelihood that they'd be on a prepayment meter for electricity too.

If they didn't put credit on the electric meter, they wouldn't be able to heat the water to make up a bottle of formula.

(Mind you, I'd bloody ban prepayment meters if I had my way, at least for electricity: there have been two cases of house fires caused by people using candles for lighting because they had no money for electricity in my small town; one of the fires was fatal.)

suburburban · 27/02/2026 14:25

Plasticdreams · 27/02/2026 13:18

The fact that you don’t think you’re privileged says it all.

🤔

Happyjoe · 27/02/2026 14:28

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Just following your lead.

Plasticdreams · 27/02/2026 14:49

suburburban · 27/02/2026 14:25

🤔

Do you have a safe place to live?
Do you have clean tap water and heating in your home?
Do you have enough money to pay your bills?
Do you have access to medical care when you need it?
Can you buy healthy food?
Do you have access to the internet?
Can you go to a Library?

Yellowshirt · 27/02/2026 14:56

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MsGreying · 27/02/2026 15:02

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/crackdown-on-legal-visa-abuse-stems-surge-in-asylum-claims

Asylum applications from work, study and tourist visa-holders more than tripled under the previous government and accounted for 37% (41,400) of overall claims in the year ending June 2025.
International students made up the highest proportion of claimants at 40%, followed by 29% from work visas and 24% visitors.
Stricter screening has seen refusal rates for short-term study visas increase from 45% to 68%, while skilled worker rejections surged from 3% in 2023 to 21% in June 2025. Among nationalities with high rates of asylum claims, the refusal rate was much larger still – lessening asylum accommodation pressures.

It warns that claims without merit will be swiftly and robustly refused, and those without a legal right to remain in the UK must leave or face removal.

We can't build enough houses for the 600 extra people coming over in yesterday's boats.
It's just not sustainable to keep building on farm land and open space.

Crackdown on legal visa abuse stems surge in asylum claims

Government action led to a 10% fall in student asylum claims.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/crackdown-on-legal-visa-abuse-stems-surge-in-asylum-claims

randomchap · 27/02/2026 15:04

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Personal insults now? Lol.

LakieLady · 27/02/2026 15:49

Gingerbeersallround · 27/02/2026 13:06

To help me understand, please give me a breakdown of how she would spend her benefits money?

And take into account the fact that the amount included in her UC for rent is highly unlikely to cover the whole of her rent if she isn't lucky enough to be in social housing. My (step) DIL has a £200pm gap between her UC housing costs element and her actual rent, and her rent is a good bit lower than most in the city she lives in.

womendeserveequalhumanrights · 27/02/2026 16:01

I think some types of male predators are attracted to the UK because of our incredibly low levels of prosecution of and relatively lenient sentences for rape too. In other countries the punishment is far higher. It's true that in a lot of cases this would be because of the harm to the men 'owning' the woman raped, rather than the harm to the woman, but nevertheless there are a number of other countries where rape can be punishable by death.

Here apparently you do your time then you get given what will be a large sum of money (in your home country) and travel back to your own country funded. Or potentially let out to assault and rape more women and girls while your asylum claim is 'processed' and your 'human rights' protected (but not the human rights of your female victims, whose lives are ruined forever and get no help whatsoever).

Tricket · 27/02/2026 16:06

womendeserveequalhumanrights · 27/02/2026 16:01

I think some types of male predators are attracted to the UK because of our incredibly low levels of prosecution of and relatively lenient sentences for rape too. In other countries the punishment is far higher. It's true that in a lot of cases this would be because of the harm to the men 'owning' the woman raped, rather than the harm to the woman, but nevertheless there are a number of other countries where rape can be punishable by death.

Here apparently you do your time then you get given what will be a large sum of money (in your home country) and travel back to your own country funded. Or potentially let out to assault and rape more women and girls while your asylum claim is 'processed' and your 'human rights' protected (but not the human rights of your female victims, whose lives are ruined forever and get no help whatsoever).

Aren't there some who fear persecution because people in their home country being a sex pest would cause them a lot of trouble and they they can stay?

suburburban · 27/02/2026 16:30

Plasticdreams · 27/02/2026 14:49

Do you have a safe place to live?
Do you have clean tap water and heating in your home?
Do you have enough money to pay your bills?
Do you have access to medical care when you need it?
Can you buy healthy food?
Do you have access to the internet?
Can you go to a Library?

Yes I take your point and we are very fortunate in the UK

However the working classes have paid and fought for the freedoms and facilities we have now.

it’s fairly normal in the Western world nowaday but it wasn’t always like this and my dgf and many other people made great sacrifices in WW2 and the NHS was only established in 1946

Tricket · 27/02/2026 16:33

suburburban · 27/02/2026 16:30

Yes I take your point and we are very fortunate in the UK

However the working classes have paid and fought for the freedoms and facilities we have now.

it’s fairly normal in the Western world nowaday but it wasn’t always like this and my dgf and many other people made great sacrifices in WW2 and the NHS was only established in 1946

We should protect what we have instead of sacrificing it.

Happyjoe · 27/02/2026 16:34

womendeserveequalhumanrights · 27/02/2026 16:01

I think some types of male predators are attracted to the UK because of our incredibly low levels of prosecution of and relatively lenient sentences for rape too. In other countries the punishment is far higher. It's true that in a lot of cases this would be because of the harm to the men 'owning' the woman raped, rather than the harm to the woman, but nevertheless there are a number of other countries where rape can be punishable by death.

Here apparently you do your time then you get given what will be a large sum of money (in your home country) and travel back to your own country funded. Or potentially let out to assault and rape more women and girls while your asylum claim is 'processed' and your 'human rights' protected (but not the human rights of your female victims, whose lives are ruined forever and get no help whatsoever).

Over the whole world rape is under reported and under investigated and not punished as much as it should be. Some countries and cultures define rape/sex abuse not as widely as the UK, some countries allow people to marry their rapist to avoid punishment. Some countries allow marital rape. One even punishes the victim for having sex out of marriage.

The UK isn't any 'easier' than any other country.

suburburban · 27/02/2026 16:36

Tricket · 27/02/2026 16:33

We should protect what we have instead of sacrificing it.

Yes I think so

Happyjoe · 27/02/2026 16:43

Tricket · 27/02/2026 16:06

Aren't there some who fear persecution because people in their home country being a sex pest would cause them a lot of trouble and they they can stay?

????????
Unless you are thinking of people who are gay?

It's like people on here make it up as they go along.

Tricket · 27/02/2026 16:50

Happyjoe · 27/02/2026 16:43

????????
Unless you are thinking of people who are gay?

It's like people on here make it up as they go along.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/02/14/zimbabwean-paedophile-allowed-to-stay-in-uk/

EasternStandard · 27/02/2026 16:51

suburburban · 27/02/2026 16:30

Yes I take your point and we are very fortunate in the UK

However the working classes have paid and fought for the freedoms and facilities we have now.

it’s fairly normal in the Western world nowaday but it wasn’t always like this and my dgf and many other people made great sacrifices in WW2 and the NHS was only established in 1946

We are fortunate and I agree with your take on who fought and paid for it. I think women and girls now should realise what we have isn’t replicated everywhere too.

mollypuss1 · 27/02/2026 17:13

Tricket · 27/02/2026 16:33

We should protect what we have instead of sacrificing it.

Sorry, what are we ‘sacrificing’?

Poetnojo · 27/02/2026 18:00

@mollypuss1 "The response of the privileged, “Sorry you’re dying but it’s not happening to me so I don’t actually give a shit”.
Yeah that kinda sounds like what a lot of British people who are not being negatively affected by all these illegals flooding into Britain are saying alright. 😂

Poetnojo · 27/02/2026 18:06

mollypuss1 · 27/02/2026 09:02

Some will have been murderers and sexual abusers. As many people have pointed out to you previously, you cannot tell who is going to be a murderer or sexual abuser just by looking at them, if we could then we could eradicate those crimes tomorrow.

You do realise that the stats show that people from certain demographics commit sexual assaults to a much higher degree than others right? Or are you saying it's not true?
We know this to be a fact, yet nobody seems keen on keeping the risk to a minimum.

Happyjoe · 27/02/2026 18:07

So, not fearing persecution as you said because he is a paedo, it's because he is HIV positive and cannot get treatment back in Zimbabwe.

Right.

While not good, at all, the reason he's been allowed to stay so far, is because of medical treatment. I am not sure the story is over.

Plasticdreams · 27/02/2026 18:09

suburburban · 27/02/2026 16:30

Yes I take your point and we are very fortunate in the UK

However the working classes have paid and fought for the freedoms and facilities we have now.

it’s fairly normal in the Western world nowaday but it wasn’t always like this and my dgf and many other people made great sacrifices in WW2 and the NHS was only established in 1946

And he would be horrified by the rise of the far right that he fought so hard to stop. We have the anti fascists (your dgf) to thank for the freedoms and privileges we now.