Hotels emptying

[cornflakecrunchie]

..of asylum seekers..
On the news. Are we supposed to be impressed? They are just being shuffled elsewhere, aren't they?

Exactly, journalists get a tough time of it but they do a very important job.

The huge hole in my friends leg wasn't fun either - and if had been in the face it probably would've killed him. No such thing as a non-lethal bullet.

It also cost him $80,000 on top of his insurance as USA insurance companies wiggle out paying as much as possible, despite having good cover.

Some people commit crime during the assessment process and even after they've been allowed to stay.

The Uxbridge stabber had his asylum approved in 2022 and yet he went on and still killed someone.

It’s always the case!

Are you suggesting that all these "undocumented " people are arriving with their degrees in hand?! The clue is in the word undocumented, we don't even know who they are never mind what level of education they have!

They’re not illegal unless their visa to live and work here has expired. The people you’re referring to are asylum seekers.
Out of interest, Where would you go if your country had been bombed and you wanted to better your life? Or is that too difficult to imagine. You are judging from a place of privilege and the only reason you have that privilege is sheer luck. It’s not because you’re better than anyone else.

Wasn't Suella Braverman an immigrant?

What do we do with these people? People whose lives have been totally destroyed, and are so desperate that they risk their lives, and those of their children, to get to a place of safety. They leave everything in total desperation.

Putting them up in hotels is perhaps not the answer. I'd love to know if anyone knows of a better idea.

Send me a link for your first point please, that would be interesting to read.

Your second point, we cannot always tell who will commit a crime before it happens. Same as any person in the world. Same vein, we cannot tell who's is going to step up when faced with a horrifying circumstance, like the brave immigrant who saved lives on the Cambridge train last year. Wasn't a UK born citizen who saved lives..

Can you find me a way of looking into the future to tell me which person is going to be a criminal and which person is going to be a hero?

I believe that Suella was born in the UK.

You are quite right. My bad. Her parents were. Yet her campaigns are totally inhuman IMHO.

Did you not see the video footage of Renee Goode being shot in the face by ICE agents after dropping her child off at school?
@LakieLady oh, is that what she was doing?

Main thing is would to not have them enter here in the first place. They come completely unchecked and unverified.

If I were to offer you a packet of biscuits and only some were laced with poison, how many would you eat?

So if the UK became a war zone - I take it everyone complaining about asylum seekers would just stay and put up with it? They wouldn't attempt to seek refuge in another country?

I saw different videos from different angles. Some suggesting she was driving into the agent (who had been vehicularly assaulted before).

If I was in the US, I'd leave law enforcement to do what they're doing. Same as in the UK, if I see the police doing an operation, I leave them to it.

Would you not expect the men of the country to stay and fight for a better tomorrow?

Ok, as I came to the conclusion before, you are just being odd.
Refuse to entertain any facts.
Spread rubbish, no links provided to back up your claims.

Am done as it's actually a waste of time. Have a good evening.

If the UK is full of people with your attitude then it's not worth saving.

https://www.itv.com/news/london/2025-10-28/boy-14-injured-after-uxbridge-triple-stabbing-leaves-one-dead

The Afghan national entered the UK in a lorry in 2020 before claiming asylum, which was granted in 2022, the Home Office previously confirmed.

Yeah Tricket, so would I.
I was just querying the quote by LackyLady

I’ve seen some depressingly horrible and ignorant threads/posts on here but this must be the worst.

Was it last push for Reform in today’s by election? Though this is so dire it’s probably more likely to be a Musk bot push for Restore.

TRICKET SAID: Some people commit crime during the assessment process and even after they've been allowed to stay.

Your link doesn't say he committed a crime during the assessment process . It was 3 years after he was granted asylum.

It's not what you said and it's not the link I asked for. I presume you will ignore this anyway.

Your biscuit question is the same as the skittles analogy. The best response I ever read to that was this;

“If I gave you a bowl of skittles and three of them were poison would you still eat them?”
“Are the other skittles human lives?”
“What?”
“Like. Is there a good chance. A really good chance. I would be saving someone from a war zone and probably their life if I ate a skittle?”
“Well sure. But the point-”
“I would eat the skittles.”
“Ok-well the point is-”
“I would GORGE myself on skittles. I would eat every single fucking skittle I could find. I would STUFF myself with skittles. And when I found the poison skittle and died I would make sure to leave behind a legacy of children and of friends who also ate skittle after skittle until there were no skittles to be eaten. And each person who found the poison skittle we would weep for. We would weep for their loss, for their sacrifice, and for the fact that they did not let themselves succumb to fear but made the world a better place by eating skittles.
Because your REAL question…the one you hid behind a shitty little inaccurate, insensitive, dehumanizing racist little candy metaphor is, IS MY LIFE MORE IMPORTANT THAN THOUSANDS UPON THOUSANDS OF MEN, WOMEN, AND TERRIFIED CHILDREN…
… and what kind of monster would think the answer to that question… is yes?”

Sadly, there are a lot of monsters on this thread.

and even after they've been allowed to stay.

Idk what you're even arguing about now. He was allowed to stay and then he still committed the crime.

The man who murdered Rhiannon was still having his application assessed and was being housed by the government when he commited his heinous act. Had they not been here...... their victims would still be alive.

@CorporealCarrot yep I don’t think they’ve quite twigged that it’s people like themselves that are a total burden on the state

Brava. It's like when you see headlines about children dying in the cruel dark sea and their little bodies being washed up on the sand alongside their parents who were just trying to rescue them from unthinkable pain and hardship, and some absolute dickwad thinks it's a good idea to put a laughing emoji. And I think, yes, this is how societies crumble, when we forget that we're all human.