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Hotels emptying

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cornflakecrunchie · 26/02/2026 17:41

..of asylum seekers..
On the news. Are we supposed to be impressed? They are just being shuffled elsewhere, aren't they?

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Allseeingallknowing · 26/02/2026 21:32

mollypuss1 · 26/02/2026 21:29

You clearly are.

So everyone who doesn’t think like you is being brainwashed? That’s most of the population then! Perhaps you’re the one who is being brainwashed!

mollypuss1 · 26/02/2026 21:33

Cheese55 · 26/02/2026 21:28

Its a requirement to have a DBS to work in any type of care facility, how're you going to a police check on an asylum seeker?

DBS checks only show past criminal activity and if, as you say, abuse is rife then they are not much use as obviously this abuse is occurring at the hands of British citizens with no criminal record.

Allseeingallknowing · 26/02/2026 21:35

sleepwouldbenice · 26/02/2026 21:32

Can you explain your thought process here? I am not following it?

Some may think litter picking is degrading , (though it isn’t)whereas crop picking has an image of being productive and useful.

EasternStandard · 26/02/2026 21:35

mollypuss1 · 26/02/2026 21:33

DBS checks only show past criminal activity and if, as you say, abuse is rife then they are not much use as obviously this abuse is occurring at the hands of British citizens with no criminal record.

@mollypuss1do you mean you’d like men who are claiming asylum to work in care homes?

plutosache · 26/02/2026 21:36

This country is in crisis. The lack of healthcare is debilitating people (or killing them), we are scrapping over school places, hospice places, there are sod all graduate jobs, our roads are jammed and pot holed, councils struggle to empty bins even, fly tipping is rife, adult social care is worse than bare bones and we have an Sen crisis. We have homeless people and even fake homeless people. Drugs, violence, theft are all commonplace. Everything is broken, people won’t admit it. Yes we have welcomed refugees in the past but it’s time for another country to take a turn. We are in a bad bad state and the only immigrants we can afford to take are ones who are legal and going to be net contributors (not that I understand why any such person would want to come here when there are far better places to go).

mollypuss1 · 26/02/2026 21:36

Allseeingallknowing · 26/02/2026 21:32

So everyone who doesn’t think like you is being brainwashed? That’s most of the population then! Perhaps you’re the one who is being brainwashed!

Nope, just the ones like you who spout the same nonsensical sounds bites because you don’t have any facts or figures to back up your media fuelled hysteria.

randomchap · 26/02/2026 21:36

suburburban · 26/02/2026 21:17

Probably not paying any tax and N.I, and working cash in hand

a real help to the treasury

So you're just making things up and getting angry about it? Have you considered healthier hobbies?

Happyjoe · 26/02/2026 21:37

Allseeingallknowing · 26/02/2026 21:16

We can see what’s around us and make our own minds up, thanks

Ok, let's get to basics and why people are fed up with living in the UK. Yes, we are all struggling with lack of GP's, schools being good, housing etc.

While the Cons were in power, immigration went up, towards the end of their stint it nearly reached 1 million in a year. This is controlled, visa route immigration.

The same conservative government actually made cuts to the funding for all these things under austerity - all the while granting visas (traditionally immigration is good for the economy).

So, when allowing nearly a million people in a year and hundreds of thousands a year in other years, would it not have been sensible to invest into the UK, into the things we need rather than make cuts, to allow for the fact more people are here and all needed access to basic things?

I say yes.

They didn't. When people started to get fed up with the conservative government and the struggles we were now facing, what they did do is start blaming immigration and asylum seekers (who actually are a small percentage of immigrants in the UK). To deflect blame for broader policy failings and is something now the conservatives now realise was a mistake.

Am afraid you're blaming the wrong people for the ills in the UK. If you think Farage is the answer, then you're still falling for the spin.

Allseeingallknowing · 26/02/2026 21:37

mollypuss1 · 26/02/2026 21:36

Nope, just the ones like you who spout the same nonsensical sounds bites because you don’t have any facts or figures to back up your media fuelled hysteria.

What facts and figures ar3 you after? Haven’t seen you spout any yourself!

BurntBroccoli · 26/02/2026 21:38

Claims are being processed much quicker and the number of claims has gone down.

101,000 asylum claims in 2025 - down 4%

135,000 initial decisions made, UP 56%, highest since records began in 2002

• Grant rate: 42%, down from 47%

Allseeingallknowing · 26/02/2026 21:38

Happyjoe · 26/02/2026 21:37

Ok, let's get to basics and why people are fed up with living in the UK. Yes, we are all struggling with lack of GP's, schools being good, housing etc.

While the Cons were in power, immigration went up, towards the end of their stint it nearly reached 1 million in a year. This is controlled, visa route immigration.

The same conservative government actually made cuts to the funding for all these things under austerity - all the while granting visas (traditionally immigration is good for the economy).

So, when allowing nearly a million people in a year and hundreds of thousands a year in other years, would it not have been sensible to invest into the UK, into the things we need rather than make cuts, to allow for the fact more people are here and all needed access to basic things?

I say yes.

They didn't. When people started to get fed up with the conservative government and the struggles we were now facing, what they did do is start blaming immigration and asylum seekers (who actually are a small percentage of immigrants in the UK). To deflect blame for broader policy failings and is something now the conservatives now realise was a mistake.

Am afraid you're blaming the wrong people for the ills in the UK. If you think Farage is the answer, then you're still falling for the spin.

Where have I ever said I agree with Farage?

cestlavielife · 26/02/2026 21:39

Allseeingallknowing · 26/02/2026 18:16

Yes, those with skills needed in the U.K. are welcome. A lot of those arriving in dinghies, will be low skilled, not have qualifications and will leech on the state

Which data?
Not based on this data which says the opposite

Facts about refugees in the UK - Breaking Barriers https://share.google/8SMbUuClDTJ7EG3rC

Woman with dark hair wearing a winter scarf walking down the street

Facts about refugees in the UK - Breaking Barriers

It’s easy to feel confused when there is so much disinformation in the media – here are the most up to date facts and statistics about the UK’s refugee community…

https://breaking-barriers.co.uk/our-impact/refugee-asylum-facts/

ilovesooty · 26/02/2026 21:40

LakieLady · 26/02/2026 19:00

This has been pointed out so many times on here that I'm starting to think that people are just shit stirring for the sake of it.

Either that or they're incapable of understanding basic facts.

notthatoldchestnut · 26/02/2026 21:41

It’s a good thing that the hotels are being emptied, but it’s just creating another problem.

private landlords have been approached over the last 12 months (and are continuing to do so) being offered thousands in guaranteed rent for their properties on a long term let (5 years +) with the promise that they will be regularly checked and returned in a good state. The pressure the government is putting on private landlords is making BTL unviable in a lot of cases so who wouldn’t want to ensure that they can keep an asset with no maintenance or risk?

this, as a result, is removing a significant number of properties from the rental market, reducing the housing options for people and likely making others homeless who cannot afford to rent elsewhere due to lack of housing stock.

some streets will be full of these houses which will be turned into HMOs full of people who will not integrate, and people who do not want them there.

would I want a house full of migrant men who cannot work in a house next door to me? No. People who say they wouldn’t care clearly haven’t been exposed to the realities of living in these societies.

Happyjoe · 26/02/2026 21:41

plutosache · 26/02/2026 21:36

This country is in crisis. The lack of healthcare is debilitating people (or killing them), we are scrapping over school places, hospice places, there are sod all graduate jobs, our roads are jammed and pot holed, councils struggle to empty bins even, fly tipping is rife, adult social care is worse than bare bones and we have an Sen crisis. We have homeless people and even fake homeless people. Drugs, violence, theft are all commonplace. Everything is broken, people won’t admit it. Yes we have welcomed refugees in the past but it’s time for another country to take a turn. We are in a bad bad state and the only immigrants we can afford to take are ones who are legal and going to be net contributors (not that I understand why any such person would want to come here when there are far better places to go).

None of this is asylum seekers fault though is it? Yes, it costs too much but the whole state of the UK does not ride on the cost of asylum seekers.

Who's in charge of the public purse, NHS, the police, the housing, the schools, the homeless etc? It's not the asylum seekers or immigrants.

BIossomtoes · 26/02/2026 21:42

Allseeingallknowing · 26/02/2026 21:32

So everyone who doesn’t think like you is being brainwashed? That’s most of the population then! Perhaps you’re the one who is being brainwashed!

Most of the population? Most of the population is the 70+% who would rather eat their own liver than vote Reform and certainly don’t think like you.

Livelovebehappy · 26/02/2026 21:42

mollypuss1 · 26/02/2026 21:33

DBS checks only show past criminal activity and if, as you say, abuse is rife then they are not much use as obviously this abuse is occurring at the hands of British citizens with no criminal record.

The whole care system is broken. I’ve had the misfortune to visit elderly family members in some of these homes. They’re awful. Managed by people who put profit before proper care. Employees working with no training and for nmw. They really are horrific. Rather than putting unskilled uneducated people into these roles, we should be ensuring all carers have proper training and have at least basic education and intelligence. Why are people pushing unchecked immigrants into social care? Do we value the care of our elderly so little that we entrust them to anyone pulled off the streets?

mollypuss1 · 26/02/2026 21:43

EasternStandard · 26/02/2026 21:35

@mollypuss1do you mean you’d like men who are claiming asylum to work in care homes?

Most men who are claiming asylum are not legally allowed to work. Your point was we cannot vet these people with a DBS check to check they are safe to work in care homes, but care homes are rife with abuse by DBS vetted people.

Happyjoe · 26/02/2026 21:43

Allseeingallknowing · 26/02/2026 21:38

Where have I ever said I agree with Farage?

Do you know the meaning of if?

Tricket · 26/02/2026 21:43

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 26/02/2026 20:51

Yes, racists. There are quite a lot of them these days, and they are despicable.

What's so despicable about protecting borders and local communities?

mollypuss1 · 26/02/2026 21:45

Allseeingallknowing · 26/02/2026 21:37

What facts and figures ar3 you after? Haven’t seen you spout any yourself!

I’m not the one making unfounded claims.

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 26/02/2026 21:48

Tricket · 26/02/2026 21:43

What's so despicable about protecting borders and local communities?

Nothing at all. I salute the people who are trying to protect their local communities from divisive rhetoric and the deliberate attempts to whip up racist hatred.

gamerchick · 26/02/2026 21:48

Kept the hotels open for a while anyway.

Livelovebehappy · 26/02/2026 21:48

BIossomtoes · 26/02/2026 21:42

Most of the population? Most of the population is the 70+% who would rather eat their own liver than vote Reform and certainly don’t think like you.

Labour got into government in 2024 with just 33% of the vote, so clearly nearly 70% presumably would have rather chewed their arm off than vote them in. Yet here we are…..

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