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To think John Davidson and BAFTA owe an apology

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notaurewhatusername · 23/02/2026 20:10

I have sympathy for anyone with Tourette’s. I genuinely do. It’s a difficult condition and I’m not for one second suggesting John Davidson is a bad person or that he chose to say what he said. But sympathy for a condition doesn’t mean the impact on others gets ignored.

Intent matters but so does impact. If I accidentally stand on someone’s foot I still say sorry, even though I didn’t mean to do it. “I didn’t mean it” and “I acknowledge I hurt you” are not mutually exclusive. I wouldn’t get annoyed at the suggestion of apologising simply because I didn’t mean it, so why is this different? Especially as it was a public stage in front of millions. I don’t expect John to apologise every day in normal interactions, but at such a public forum - he should. Michael B Jordan looked visibly devastated. It was so sad.

When he saw two Black men and the n-word came out — not H**ky at the white hosts for example, not some other neutral word, the n-word directed at Black people in the room — that caused real harm to real people. Tourette’s tics are shaped by what the brain reaches for as most “forbidden” in a given moment, and what it reached for when he saw two Black men was a racial slur aimed at them. That raises really uncomfortable questions about unconscious bias that most people would rather sidestep entirely.

It doesn’t make him a conscious racist. But it does make it a conversation worth having, because our unconscious associations don’t come from nowhere — they’re shaped by everything we’ve absorbed over a lifetime. That connotation being the first place his brain went is something that deserves acknowledgement, not just a pass because of the diagnosis. And as a POC, I have to be honest — this is heartbreaking. Not just the incident itself but what it represents.

I can’t tell you how many times I’ve tried to explain to white friends and colleagues that certain spaces feel uncomfortable, that you notice the stares, that you carry this constant low level awareness of how you might be being perceived. And so often the response is “you’re imagining it” or “you’re being too sensitive.” You get gaslit into doubting your own lived experience. Well — moments like this are exactly why it isn’t in our heads. This is the reality POC navigate every single day. Always on alert. Always doing that mental calculation of whether someone is judging you for the colour of your skin. That emotional labour is exhausting and largely invisible to people who’ve never had to carry it.

John thanking the audience for their “understanding” puts the burden entirely on those who were hurt to just get over it. That’s not the same as acknowledging the pain caused. AIBU to think a bit more than “thanks for understanding” was needed here — from both of them?

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CharlotteRumpling · 25/02/2026 11:49

RonniePickering · 25/02/2026 11:47

Are people actually arguing that the slur should have been left in the broadcast?!
That is bizarre. Obviously JD couldn't help it due to his condition, but why upset people further by leaving it in?

Yes. It's apparently inclusive and serves as a great teaching moment.

SpaceRaccoon · 25/02/2026 11:50

Having read John's interview, it seems that he assumed there would be no live microphones near him, and that people on stage would definitely not have heard his tics - it was seeing them react that then made him realise that wasn't the case, and leave the room.

He's been so let down by that - something as simple as not having a microphone near him. I can't imagine how utterly awful he would have felt realising that his tics were so audible.

IHateWasps · 25/02/2026 11:50

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It is staggeringly ignorant and breathtakingly offensive to suggest that John should not have attended an awards ceremony because of his disability especially when one of the films being celebrated was about his own life and was intended to raise awareness of Tourettes.

He absolutely deserved to be there and yes it might be appropriate, if it wouldn’t cause great distress to them, for someone with dementia to be present.

John lives with this condition every day. If he had to completely avoid any possibility of causing offence he’d literally be unable to leave the house. Do you really expect him to be hidden away for the rest of his life or is it just Hollywood that he can’t offend?

I do think that it should have been handled better by the BAFTAs and BBC. Microphones should have been kept away from John, there should have been a more detailed briefing for all attendees and the offensive words should have been edited out and someone from the BAFTAs should have talked with Michael B Jordan and Delroy Lincoln afterwards. Other precautions could possibly have also been taken but the man cannot hide away for the rest of his life ir even “just” when others feel it is appropriate and yes I do think that intent matters even while acknowledging how hurtful and indeed devastating it can be to hear the N word regardless of context.

RonniePickering · 25/02/2026 11:51

CharlotteRumpling · 25/02/2026 11:49

Yes. It's apparently inclusive and serves as a great teaching moment.

My God 😞

mollypuss1 · 25/02/2026 11:51

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You want people with ‘Alzheimers, those with schizophrenia, personality disorders etc.’ to ‘demonstrate awareness’? What a ridiculous thing to say.

I don’t believe, from your post above, that you are ‘all for inclusivity’, what you are for is inclusivity as long as it doesn’t affect you or make you uncomfortable. So let’s just include the less ‘troublesome’ disabled people and then you can pat yourself on the back and tell yourself what a good person you are while those with more socially inappropriate disabilities are excluded as they should know their limitations.

John doesn’t need to integrate in the community, he is a part of the community no matter how uncomfortable that may make you. Your choice to be offended by a word does not trump his right to exist in the community.

Gloriia · 25/02/2026 11:51

SlipperStar · 25/02/2026 11:47

"Hide the disabled people"

That's what you are saying

People can take offence at anything without intent

That's not the fault of the person who said it

Abuse also requires intent

I have a disabled relative. We don't hide them.

Abuse does not require Intent. People are allowed to be upset and offended even if the person can't help it. All feelings are valid.

SlipperStar · 25/02/2026 11:52

Gloriia · 25/02/2026 11:47

There was a family at school with a dc with sen, they had very loud but not offensive tics. They didn't take them to school shows, not because anyone complained but out of consideration for other people who were watching.

They took their dc to sports days, fayres, school trips so they're weren't isolated or excluded but when there are performances or speeches it is absolutely not rocket science for anyone with verbal tics to sit it out.

No

They kept them away from bigots like you who would have tutted and made comments and told them they weren't welcome

That's not the same

Gloriia · 25/02/2026 11:54

'You want people with ‘Alzheimers, those with schizophrenia, personality disorders etc.’ to ‘demonstrate awareness’? What a ridiculous thing to say'

I said sufferers and their carers. So someone with alzheimers I'd expect their carers to know what social settings would be appropriate.

SlipperStar · 25/02/2026 11:55

Gloriia · 25/02/2026 11:51

I have a disabled relative. We don't hide them.

Abuse does not require Intent. People are allowed to be upset and offended even if the person can't help it. All feelings are valid.

Abuse does require intent. It's not abuse if there's no intent to cause harm. Taking offence is down to the person hearing it, not the person saying it

And you are absolutely advocating hiding the disabled. I bet you disabled relative has a "pallatable" disability where it doesn't provide any real inconvenience to yourself

mollypuss1 · 25/02/2026 11:56

Gloriia · 25/02/2026 11:47

There was a family at school with a dc with sen, they had very loud but not offensive tics. They didn't take them to school shows, not because anyone complained but out of consideration for other people who were watching.

They took their dc to sports days, fayres, school trips so they're weren't isolated or excluded but when there are performances or speeches it is absolutely not rocket science for anyone with verbal tics to sit it out.

That poor child, being told from an early age that his existence is inappropriate to others. I hope he gets help for the affect this will have on his mental health if he ever needs it.

SpaceRaccoon · 25/02/2026 11:56

Abuse does not require Intent. People are allowed to be upset and offended even if the person can't help it. All feelings are valid.

Yes it does. If my DH accidentally injures me, he has not abused me. If he strikes me angrily, and injures me, he has.

Gloriia · 25/02/2026 11:58

SlipperStar · 25/02/2026 11:52

No

They kept them away from bigots like you who would have tutted and made comments and told them they weren't welcome

That's not the same

I wouldn't have tutted as I've said I have a disabled relative so am more than aware of the challenges faced.

With those challenges should come consideration for others too and if someone has loud, abusive, offensive verbal tics then others feelings should be taken into account.

So much minimising about this, if I were a poc I'd be horrified.

mollypuss1 · 25/02/2026 11:59

Gloriia · 25/02/2026 11:54

'You want people with ‘Alzheimers, those with schizophrenia, personality disorders etc.’ to ‘demonstrate awareness’? What a ridiculous thing to say'

I said sufferers and their carers. So someone with alzheimers I'd expect their carers to know what social settings would be appropriate.

You said SUFFERERS and their carers, yes.

SlipperStar · 25/02/2026 12:00

Gloriia · 25/02/2026 11:58

I wouldn't have tutted as I've said I have a disabled relative so am more than aware of the challenges faced.

With those challenges should come consideration for others too and if someone has loud, abusive, offensive verbal tics then others feelings should be taken into account.

So much minimising about this, if I were a poc I'd be horrified.

"So I am aware"

And yet you're advocating for them to be kept out of civilisation where it's not palatable for you to be around them

SpaceRaccoon · 25/02/2026 12:03

Gloriia · 25/02/2026 11:58

I wouldn't have tutted as I've said I have a disabled relative so am more than aware of the challenges faced.

With those challenges should come consideration for others too and if someone has loud, abusive, offensive verbal tics then others feelings should be taken into account.

So much minimising about this, if I were a poc I'd be horrified.

Fortunately the law doesn't agree with you.

mollypuss1 · 25/02/2026 12:04

Gloriia · 25/02/2026 11:58

I wouldn't have tutted as I've said I have a disabled relative so am more than aware of the challenges faced.

With those challenges should come consideration for others too and if someone has loud, abusive, offensive verbal tics then others feelings should be taken into account.

So much minimising about this, if I were a poc I'd be horrified.

JFC we’ve now gone from claims that all POC think and feel the same to now all disabled people face the same challenges.

FYI, I have a blind relative, she has as little insight into the challenges of someone with Tourette’s as you do on account of the fact she has a DIFFERENT disability.

CharlotteRumpling · 25/02/2026 12:06

Gloriia · 25/02/2026 11:58

I wouldn't have tutted as I've said I have a disabled relative so am more than aware of the challenges faced.

With those challenges should come consideration for others too and if someone has loud, abusive, offensive verbal tics then others feelings should be taken into account.

So much minimising about this, if I were a poc I'd be horrified.

I am a PoC. The only one here, perhaps! Or the only one speaking up lately.

All I want is for the slurs to have been edited- now done- and an enquiry into the BBC/ BAFTA, and why they didn't edit the tics earlier when they edited ' piss".

I do not want JD excluded or attacked in any way as it's clear he meant no malice. He has apologised.

But apparently this means I am racist and MN is looking at my posts. Look away I say.

mollypuss1 · 25/02/2026 12:07

Gloriia · 25/02/2026 11:58

I wouldn't have tutted as I've said I have a disabled relative so am more than aware of the challenges faced.

With those challenges should come consideration for others too and if someone has loud, abusive, offensive verbal tics then others feelings should be taken into account.

So much minimising about this, if I were a poc I'd be horrified.

Should my blind aunt never leave the house for fear of walking into someone? Or is she being inconsiderate of others when she does?

mollypuss1 · 25/02/2026 12:09

CharlotteRumpling · 25/02/2026 12:06

I am a PoC. The only one here, perhaps! Or the only one speaking up lately.

All I want is for the slurs to have been edited- now done- and an enquiry into the BBC/ BAFTA, and why they didn't edit the tics earlier when they edited ' piss".

I do not want JD excluded or attacked in any way as it's clear he meant no malice. He has apologised.

But apparently this means I am racist and MN is looking at my posts. Look away I say.

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This is not why you were accused of being racist as well you know.

Gloriia · 25/02/2026 12:10

'And yet you're advocating for them to be kept out of civilisation'

No hun, not kept out of civilisation at all.

When you have a condition/disability you can do some things and not others, sadly that is life. If you have a verbal tic which includes offensive words and racial slurs <through not fault of your own/with no intent but still highly offensive> then consideration should also be given to people you'll be mixing with.

mollypuss1 · 25/02/2026 12:13

Gloriia · 25/02/2026 12:10

'And yet you're advocating for them to be kept out of civilisation'

No hun, not kept out of civilisation at all.

When you have a condition/disability you can do some things and not others, sadly that is life. If you have a verbal tic which includes offensive words and racial slurs <through not fault of your own/with no intent but still highly offensive> then consideration should also be given to people you'll be mixing with.

If you have a verbal tic which includes offensive words and racial slurs <through not fault of your own/with no intent but still highly offensive> then consideration should also be given BY THE people you'll be mixing with.

Fixed it for you.

CharlotteRumpling · 25/02/2026 12:14

mollypuss1 · 25/02/2026 12:09

This is not why you were accused of being racist as well you know.

Yes, I said I will take the views of PoC on racist slurs over white people. Happy to own up to it if that is racism.I will say it a dozen times.

If women on here can tell men off for mansplaining and childfree people can tell mums off for parentsplaining, I can counter racialslurssplaining.

The last straw is posters expecting MBJ and DL to issue a statement supporting JD.
Fuck that! ( profanity alllowed on MN).

SlipperStar · 25/02/2026 12:16

Gloriia · 25/02/2026 12:10

'And yet you're advocating for them to be kept out of civilisation'

No hun, not kept out of civilisation at all.

When you have a condition/disability you can do some things and not others, sadly that is life. If you have a verbal tic which includes offensive words and racial slurs <through not fault of your own/with no intent but still highly offensive> then consideration should also be given to people you'll be mixing with.

It is exactly that though

You think they should be limited on where they can go

Maybe we shouldn't bother with ramps into buildings. They're inconvenient and take up space. Sure some disabled people can't then access the building but that's life and consideration should be given to those who have to get around the ramps!

MaddieJo22 · 25/02/2026 12:18

notaurewhatusername · 23/02/2026 20:36

@XenoBitchhis apology DOES mean something to millions of black people all around the world.

You raise interesting points. He has a disability, a neurological condition, and literally cannot help it. I personally do not think he should be made to apologise for having a disability or forced into the margins of society because of it. Should BAFTA or the BBC even apologise for someone else's disability? Honestly, I'm not sure. People don't apologise for other disabilities so it's setting a dangerous precedent. However, I can understand on an emotional level why people felt uncomfortable by what he said, even though I think there was no malicious intent behind it, it was purely physiological. I think these circumstances were very unique. Both PoC and people with disabilities are minority groups and ultimately I would hope they'd come together and recognise and support one another, however difficult.

mollypuss1 · 25/02/2026 12:19

CharlotteRumpling · 25/02/2026 12:14

Yes, I said I will take the views of PoC on racist slurs over white people. Happy to own up to it if that is racism.I will say it a dozen times.

If women on here can tell men off for mansplaining and childfree people can tell mums off for parentsplaining, I can counter racialslurssplaining.

The last straw is posters expecting MBJ and DL to issue a statement supporting JD.
Fuck that! ( profanity alllowed on MN).

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But you’re not taking the views of POC, you are deciding the ethnicity of people on here based upon whether they agree with you or not and deciding that those who disagree must be white.

I’ll give you one thing, you’re an expert in twisting things to fit your narrative.